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June 11, 2011, 03:37:45 PM
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if a block took less than 1 minute you should pay the same amount as the previus block, a block of 1 second with 60 shares will pay me nothing or maybe 3 coins, i have 4.4 ghash and seeing blocks that pay me so much less coz they took only less than a minute is not so funny, thanks...
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June 11, 2011, 03:59:31 PM
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for slush:
if a block took less than 1 minute you should pay the same amount as the previus block, a block of 1 second with 60 shares will pay me nothing or maybe 3 coins, i have 4.4 ghash and seeing blocks that pay me so much less coz they took only less than a minute is not so funny, thanks...

Hey,
I actually like 1minute rounds a lot, they don't take long, so I get more coins/hour due to them.
You probaly get less because you only got 1 or 2 hashes in that minute, where you're used to getting a lot, it's jut the odds,

keep liking short rounds, the shorther, the more coins you get.

but for something else:
I'm new here, and I tought I knew how bitcoin worked,
but what's up with block 130034?
It's been found twice, and keeps on getting confirmed, how does that work?
can someone explain that to me please?
thx in advance.


5419   2011-06-11 12:57:57   0:14:57   333685   0.00567753   130034    71 confirmations left
5418   2011-06-11 12:43:00   0:04:58   108728   0.00458762   130034    71 confirmations left

edit:
nevermind, found out that it's just a visual bug, the second link points to block 130035..
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June 11, 2011, 04:55:19 PM
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Would it be possible to get a link set up on the site to a JS miner? I know it won't help much - but it would be cool easy way to donate some extra CPU cycles when you aren't on your main PC.

And who knows, maybe someday WebGL can be used for mining BTC.
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June 11, 2011, 05:31:12 PM
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for slush:
if a block took less than 1 minute you should pay the same amount as the previus block, a block of 1 second with 60 shares will pay me nothing or maybe 3 coins, i have 4.4 ghash and seeing blocks that pay me so much less coz they took only less than a minute is not so funny, thanks...

Hey,
I actually like 1minute rounds a lot, they don't take long, so I get more coins/hour due to them.
You probaly get less because you only got 1 or 2 hashes in that minute, where you're used to getting a lot, it's jut the odds,

keep liking short rounds, the shorther, the more coins you get.



with that criteria, remove the score system then...
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June 11, 2011, 05:41:30 PM
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Hi guys,

a new version of my Windows Gadget for slush and deepbit is available at
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=14307!

Have fun Smiley
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June 11, 2011, 06:05:42 PM
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As with SchizophrenicX i too am seeing a drop in reward. I am seeing a 50% drop in average reward over the last 24 hours. This could be explained if the pool size had doubled over the last 24 hours but it has only gone up about 10%-15%, also my mhash/s from my miners have also gone up about 20% over the last 24 hours, as i bring online more and or optimize the current miners. I am also receiving half of the reward from the calculator results, over the last 24 hours. I know the calculator isn't 100%, But 50% over the trailing previous 24 hours, and 50% less than my own average over the trailing previous 24 hours? I don't know but something seems weird, thats all.

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June 11, 2011, 06:26:57 PM
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Hi, newbie here. I just started with the pool this morning. It's been going since 6am so only 8 hours in. A couple of questions to make sure everything is working as is.

So, I have a shitty card for mining, a gtx275 on my gaming rig. It's running factory settings atm. I didn't bother to oc because I'm just testing out the mining to see what it's like before I set up some ati cards for it.

So I'm getting an average of 45000 khash/s which according to the hardware comparison is about right.
But on my terminal where poclbm is running, there are these:
11/06/2011 13:21:58, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:23:36, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:24:56, cf1e82ca, invalid or stale
11/06/2011 13:25:14, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:27:49, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:30:12, 58d871a3, accepted
11/06/2011 13:33:37, warning: job finished, miner is idle

There are plenty of stretches of time where there are more idle messages than job messages. Is anything on my side wrong?

Also, I'm assuming it's just because I haven't been mining long enough and there haven't been any confirmed blocks yet, but at 8 hours I'm showing 0.020xxxxx BTC unconfirmed and 0.0 confirmed. With about ~44mh/s, is this about right? Or will there be a jump once confirmed blocks are found? And what is the average time to next confirmed block?

Thanks for taking the time to read (and possibly answer questions.)
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June 11, 2011, 08:36:48 PM
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for slush:
if a block took less than 1 minute you should pay the same amount as the previus block, a block of 1 second with 60 shares will pay me nothing or maybe 3 coins, i have 4.4 ghash and seeing blocks that pay me so much less coz they took only less than a minute is not so funny, thanks...

Hey,
I actually like 1minute rounds a lot, they don't take long, so I get more coins/hour due to them.
You probaly get less because you only got 1 or 2 hashes in that minute, where you're used to getting a lot, it's jut the odds,

keep liking short rounds, the shorther, the more coins you get.



with that criteria, remove the score system then...

The time based score system, instead of just sharing shares, yes please, get rid of that.

I don't get completely how it works, but if I just start working the last 10% of the round I get more then half what I would get if I worked trough all of it.

So was thinking this works in favour of pool hopping?
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June 11, 2011, 08:45:57 PM
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I can confirm the above. My earnings are also down about -50% since the last 48 hours, supported by the personal chart on mining.bitcoin.cz.

Since I commit over 10 ghash/s that's a lot of money lost.

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June 11, 2011, 08:55:13 PM
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would it be possible to add current round times to the jason stats

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June 11, 2011, 08:57:11 PM
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As with SchizophrenicX i too am seeing a drop in reward. I am seeing a 50% drop in average reward over the last 24 hours.

But 50% over the trailing previous 24 hours, and 50% less than my own average over the trailing previous 24 hours? I don't know but something seems weird, thats all.

It's probability. This is a score based pool, not shares.
Shares use a fixed amount per share, score means you get your part of work proportionally paid out _IF_ a block is found.

Read up in the wiki about how blocks are "guessed" and thus randomly "found"(this is why some people talk about lucky/unlucky days on these pools and why you sometimes get big bumps or low daily returns). This is why it fluctuates and why 24 hours are nothing.

This is why there is a 7 day average in the graphs.

If you want/need a steady daily sum, try one of the low fee pay per share = "PPS" pools instead.  

Ho-Hum.
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June 11, 2011, 09:16:48 PM
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found my first block for the pool, now i wish you had block find bonus hehe.

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June 12, 2011, 12:44:53 AM
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Wsup with all the invalid blocks today, I saw some that had waiting confirmation numbers and after a refresh 3 of them turn into invalid...
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June 12, 2011, 01:28:51 AM
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Hi, newbie here. I just started with the pool this morning. It's been going since 6am so only 8 hours in. A couple of questions to make sure everything is working as is.

So, I have a shitty card for mining, a gtx275 on my gaming rig. It's running factory settings atm. I didn't bother to oc because I'm just testing out the mining to see what it's like before I set up some ati cards for it.

So I'm getting an average of 45000 khash/s which according to the hardware comparison is about right.
But on my terminal where poclbm is running, there are these:
11/06/2011 13:21:58, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:23:36, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:24:56, cf1e82ca, invalid or stale
11/06/2011 13:25:14, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:27:49, warning: job finished, miner is idle
11/06/2011 13:30:12, 58d871a3, accepted
11/06/2011 13:33:37, warning: job finished, miner is idle

There are plenty of stretches of time where there are more idle messages than job messages. Is anything on my side wrong?

Also, I'm assuming it's just because I haven't been mining long enough and there haven't been any confirmed blocks yet, but at 8 hours I'm showing 0.020xxxxx BTC unconfirmed and 0.0 confirmed. With about ~44mh/s, is this about right? Or will there be a jump once confirmed blocks are found? And what is the average time to next confirmed block?

Thanks for taking the time to read (and possibly answer questions.)

Don't know about whether or not anything on your end is wrong.

As far as the confirmed/unconfirmed blocks - what it means is that once the blocks are confirmed by a certain number of other computers on the Bitcoin network, you'll get that money.
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June 12, 2011, 02:29:33 AM
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As with SchizophrenicX i too am seeing a drop in reward. I am seeing a 50% drop in average reward over the last 24 hours.

But 50% over the trailing previous 24 hours, and 50% less than my own average over the trailing previous 24 hours? I don't know but something seems weird, thats all.

It's probability. This is a score based pool, not shares.
Shares use a fixed amount per share, score means you get your part of work proportionally paid out _IF_ a block is found.

Read up in the wiki about how blocks are "guessed" and thus randomly "found"(this is why some people talk about lucky/unlucky days on these pools and why you sometimes get big bumps or low daily returns). This is why it fluctuates and why 24 hours are nothing.

This is why there is a 7 day average in the graphs.

If you want/need a steady daily sum, try one of the low fee pay per share = "PPS" pools instead.  
I don't want/need it to be steady, I like the way the scoring system works. I just thought it was interesting that multiple miners were seeing the same thing at the same time. You are right it is random and you can get lucky/unlucky, and I guess thats all it was because the last few hours have been back up to where it had been 40 or so hours ago. I will start to look at weekly averages over daily averages, Thank you.

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June 12, 2011, 03:49:20 AM
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Yea, I mean. I don't really get how all these works. It's in the name of reducing exploits and all I get it. If it's luck I get it. It's almost a 7th day and my average is going no where near my calculated. This is not right, I thought all these is not suppose to affect your reward 'that' much. We're still suppose to be able to go close to the calculated (expected) reward. It was 3.18 the day I posted about this. That is less than 50%, it's 5 on the last graph. My expected is 7.33 my 7-day average is 4.37. What's going on?

P.S And it even had a high system reward on the last graph 2800 BTC.

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June 12, 2011, 12:54:38 PM
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Yea, I mean. I don't really get how all these works. It's in the name of reducing exploits and all I get it. If it's luck I get it. It's almost a 7th day and my average is going no where near my calculated. This is not right, I thought all these is not suppose to affect your reward 'that' much. We're still suppose to be able to go close to the calculated (expected) reward. It was 3.18 the day I posted about this. That is less than 50%, it's 5 on the last graph. My expected is 7.33 my 7-day average is 4.37. What's going on?

P.S And it even had a high system reward on the last graph 2800 BTC.

Yes, score system should not affect mining income so much and definitely not over so long period. Do you see any troubles on miner side? Unusually high invalid ratio, idling miners or something? Do you use separate worker accounts for every gpu? It may be really something small....

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June 12, 2011, 12:56:06 PM
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My expected is 7.33 my 7-day average is 4.37. What's going on?

what is your configuration? How many GPUs? which miner software do you use? How many worker accounts have you configured? Do you see on your profile page, that each of your worker accounts is accumulating shares?

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June 12, 2011, 02:02:35 PM
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who can explain this to me, 2x 5970 shown on console 1300 Mhash/s and in my account 1090 Mhash/s

Something isn't right here or am I missing something ?



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June 12, 2011, 02:18:55 PM
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who can explain this to me, 2x 5970 shown on console 1300 Mhash/s and in my account 1090 Mhash/s

Something isn't right here or am I missing something ?

better if you check your daily reward. This MHash on your profile is hidden for the reason, that this calculations is not accurate. It varies wildly. Prettly likely that you will obseve also 1600 MHash/sec for a brief while.

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