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Author Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3  (Read 183030 times)
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October 04, 2017, 06:34:18 PM
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What kind of laws do you have in America (i assume you all are Americans)?
In Europe, you can't be held accountable as a private seller.

I'm from Germany. However i heard about such things happening even if you are a private seller. They will cling to the term "not as described" and return it, because its too loud or
the color is not matching their skirt or whatever. With an antminer D3 Batch1 it is highly profitable to keep it a week or two and then just ship it back. Maybe overclock it until it breaks.
Might be some fud in the mix but i also saw that Paypal ruined companies by freezing their chrismas-funds for no reason for months.
Since ebay and paypal are some close friends, it made me assume that not using pp will not keep me totally safe.
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October 04, 2017, 06:57:35 PM
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What kind of laws do you have in America (i assume you all are Americans)?
In Europe, you can't be held accountable as a private seller.

I'm from Germany. However i heard about such things happening even if you are a private seller. They will cling to the term "not as described" and return it, because its too loud or
the color is not matching their skirt or whatever. With an antminer D3 Batch1 it is highly profitable to keep it a week or two and then just ship it back. Maybe overclock it until it breaks.
Might be some fud in the mix but i also saw that Paypal ruined companies by freezing their chrismas-funds for no reason for months.
Since ebay and paypal are some close friends, it made me assume that not using pp will not keep me totally safe.

There are a number of trustworthy people here in the forum who can perform escrow for private sales.

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October 04, 2017, 11:56:46 PM
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Hi everybody,

I have two prepaid BITMAIN D3 orders for shipping 1st half of november - will sell for a very small negotiable premium, I paid 1499 USD a piece plus 210 USD per power supply and 373.92 USD for shipping with UPS (am sure we can change delivery address).

Pls PM me if interested  Smiley
You paid 210 for a PSU that costs 105 and you paid UPS shipping of 373.92 when it only costs 71.00? Man bud, you got butt slammed.

apparently i paid 105 a piece, bitmains invoice is not very clear...

UPS shipping is to EU, not to the USA, hence the high cost...  Wink

as for me scalping - I actually intended on keeping them and mining them myself, but the laws changed in my country, and they banned mining...  Cry

And a small premium as opposed to your recent horrorstorries of 1 boy paying 8500 in borrowed funds for a machine is hardly worth the comparison or??

am open to any serious escrow service BTW... or meet, sign over accounts and pay cash/LTC/ETH or similar (maybe even BTC if the transaction speed improves... LOL). Am based in EU as i mentioned.

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October 05, 2017, 01:27:20 AM
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Hi everybody,

I have two prepaid BITMAIN D3 orders for shipping 1st half of november - will sell for a very small negotiable premium, I paid 1499 USD a piece plus 210 USD per power supply and 373.92 USD for shipping with UPS (am sure we can change delivery address).

Pls PM me if interested  Smiley
You paid 210 for a PSU that costs 105 and you paid UPS shipping of 373.92 when it only costs 71.00? Man bud, you got butt slammed.

apparently i paid 105 a piece, bitmains invoice is not very clear...

UPS shipping is to EU, not to the USA, hence the high cost...  Wink

as for me scalping - I actually intended on keeping them and mining them myself, but the laws changed in my country, and they banned mining...  Cry

And a small premium as opposed to your recent horrorstorries of 1 boy paying 8500 in borrowed funds for a machine is hardly worth the comparison or??

am open to any serious escrow service BTW... or meet, sign over accounts and pay cash/LTC/ETH or similar (maybe even BTC if the transaction speed improves... LOL). Am based in EU as i mentioned.

cheers...
what country are you in and do you have a link to them banning mining?

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October 05, 2017, 01:28:31 AM
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Video recap on my recent earnings and not so positive projections on the future of x11 mining O_o /for anyone interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBZzuBcfMk


You raise some fair points in the video regarding cost vs. return. Good luck with your sale I would take it off your hands but at this point buying a d3 is like playing Russian roulette with 2 bullets in the chamber and gets worse each batch. The L3+ was solid but this machine thus far is not a good investment nor would I advise anyone to purchase unless you really like gambling.
haha thats a good way to put it! xD // sold it

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October 05, 2017, 01:51:04 AM
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Video recap on my recent earnings and not so positive projections on the future of x11 mining O_o /for anyone interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNBZzuBcfMk


As always i enjoy your video's. Its nice that your girlfriend is also involved and understands what your doing. Wow, did you mine that car or hard laybor  Tongue

You are very handy in making the video's intresting especially with the understatement screenschots. You said to have to like more viewers. Brockers react on google search hit on bitcoin and etheruem. Bet pretty soon your youtube hits are also gone involve there speculations  Cheesy  Wink

Thanks bro and ofcourse CEO Tails who keeps the hole crypto running.
Cheers man I appreciate that thank you Cheesy / yeah I'm glad I was able to get her into it as it makes everything less stressful / I talk crypto to my gf more than anyone else --- its sort of consumed my life lol only thing I really ever want to talk about ..  is crypto

I'm glad you like it I try to make it as interesting as I can, I'm no magician with editing and sometimes I feel like I have to talk a lot to get my point across but I'm happy some people like the content xD

haha absolutely I'll send this up the chain of command to Lt tails

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October 05, 2017, 01:54:49 AM
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Maybe you can f*** with ebay with the old trick that you sell the contact to you and not the product.
I did that with my browsergame-accounts, because the game-developer did not permit selling accounts.
But gifting them and selling me works Wink
I guess this will not work with high-value-things like D3 - but i am not sure.

@VoskCoin  i recommend you not to use ebay. I had opened another thread to determine the risk.
The things people reported (things happening to them) were awful. You can expect someone to buy it, mine it 1 month and then return it.
You will never get the same price again in a month. Plus you pay the 10% fee for ebay.
Paypal/ebay will pretty much always side with the buyer and not the seller.
Here is theThread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2215455.0
appreciate the link . . pretty disheartening reading a lot of those testimonials, wish some people weren't total shits

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October 05, 2017, 04:47:37 AM
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Maybe almost every  pre paid miner that people are waiting  for to be delivered  is mining right now, hence the difficulty increase more then expected not saying all but some would definitely be doing this to milk maximum profit before shipping. If this is true it may be a good thing as future batch shipments won't impact the difficulty as much. Also new x11 coins like helium will hopefully spread the hash rate around. Maybe digibyte will add x11 to its list of supported algos , who knows. It's still possible that some people may regret selling their d3s too soon or selling them now at ever decreasing prices. The evolution  dash updates due soon,  that should help with the dash price.

Sorry for taking your hopes
BUT
according hardware dates on this miners (I had some in Sept. batch) this machines were never running.
Its not like S7, S9, L3...yes this guys runs for 3-6 month before they reach public. D3 did NOT.
Im pretty sure with this so...sorry...Oct. 15-25 batch makes the diff doubled again, early Nov. again and late Nov. again (not because of the network hashpower but cos of estimated sold miner counts).
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October 05, 2017, 05:00:49 AM
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I'm from Germany.
 

One question regarding that? Have you ordered any miner from Bitmain? I am asking that because i got supplier from Germany. And she wants to sell me for Regular Bitmain price + PSU(Bitmains) around 1500$(S9) she can order D3 as well at any time(she says she has direct contact from Bitmain, and that shipment arrives around 3-4 days with DHL. IS / HOW is that possible? Asking because i understand how Bitmain works... Order > 2-3 months later you get your order. Is there some kind of advantage because you are in Germany in therms of mentioned shipment time(3-4 days)

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I'm from Germany.
 

One question regarding that? Have you ordered any miner from Bitmain? I am asking that because i got supplier from Germany. And she wants to sell me for Regular Bitmain price + PSU(Bitmains) around 1500$(S9) she can order D3 as well at any time(she says she has direct contact from Bitmain, and that shipment arrives around 3-4 days with DHL. IS / HOW is that possible? Asking because i understand how Bitmain works... Order > 2-3 months later you get your order. Is there some kind of advantage because you are in Germany in therms of mentioned shipment time(3-4 days)

give her a chance.  maybe she says the truth.  Are you also living in germany?  If not please contact me if it not so far i will check it out for you.
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I'm from Germany.
 

One question regarding that? Have you ordered any miner from Bitmain? I am asking that because i got supplier from Germany. And she wants to sell me for Regular Bitmain price + PSU(Bitmains) around 1500$(S9) she can order D3 as well at any time(she says she has direct contact from Bitmain, and that shipment arrives around 3-4 days with DHL. IS / HOW is that possible? Asking because i understand how Bitmain works... Order > 2-3 months later you get your order. Is there some kind of advantage because you are in Germany in therms of mentioned shipment time(3-4 days)

give her a chance.  maybe she says the truth.  Are you also living in germany?  If not please contact me if it not so far i will check it out for you.

Nope I am living like 3-4 countries away(Eastern Europe). I would come by car, and will do transaction hand to hand. I am very paranoid with buying from reselers or any other site(well you get the point). But if i order from Bitmain i have to pay customs like 550$ more less... And i am not willing to do that. Not willing to tell her location because of i dont know maybe i have tinfoil hat Cheesy . Sent you pm about something

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October 05, 2017, 05:47:03 AM
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What is match ?
How to get ?
help me

Can you little bit more specific? What you are interested in ?

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October 05, 2017, 06:01:30 AM
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if there need any a escrow in Germany, then PM me

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October 05, 2017, 06:09:52 AM
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if there need any a escrow in Germany, then PM me

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Will keep you in mind. Will wait for few days to see how things develop, and if there is any shady thing. I know that i am paranoid, but i just want to avoid being scammed.

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what country are you in and do you have a link to them banning mining?

I am also curriuos. Maybe he ment Russia. They forbid home mining in appartments, because of fire hazerds.
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what country are you in and do you have a link to them banning mining?

I am also curriuos. Maybe he ment Rassia. They forbid home mining in appartments, because of fire hazerds.


Ouch Sad ... What about industrial mining? I mean like you make company that is just hangar and it has miners within itself?

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what country are you in and do you have a link to them banning mining?

I am also curriuos. Maybe he ment Rassia. They forbid home mining in appartments, because of fire hazerds.


Ouch Sad ... What about industrial mining? I mean like you make company that is just hangar and it has miners within itself?

Russia is not Europe Smiley
Also Russia is a friend of mining cos of they do have sources to have cheap electricity and want to use it.

I think this guy is a scammer (not sure, sorry for calling somebody scammer) but here in Europe is mining NOT anyhow regulated...
Or he is only afraid of not having his ROI...Smiley
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October 05, 2017, 07:28:10 AM
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Geografficly Russia is part of Europe and Asia. Russia does not belong to the EU countries. Russia forbid home mining in appartments, but not industrial. Even the goverment are planning to build big miningfarms beside there nuclair energy plant. They wan't to compete with number one China.

https://news.bitcoin.com/russia-discusses-starting-cryptocurrency-mining-with-its-20-gigawatt-surplus/
https://news.bitcoin.com/russian-governor-cryptocurrency-miners-mining-farms-leningrad/
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what country are you in and do you have a link to them banning mining?

I am also curriuos. Maybe he ment Rassia. They forbid home mining in appartments, because of fire hazerds.


Ouch Sad ... What about industrial mining? I mean like you make company that is just hangar and it has miners within itself?

Russia is not Europe Smiley
Also Russia is a friend of mining cos of they do have sources to have cheap electricity and want to use it.

I think this guy is a scammer (not sure, sorry for calling somebody scammer) but here in Europe is mining NOT anyhow regulated...
Or he is only afraid of not having his ROI...Smiley

I'm from an EU country, but living in Ukraine, where we have cheap electricity at 0.065 USD/kWh - so trust me, nothing I'd rather do than mining these machines and getting 20-30 % per month - where else can you get that return?

problem is, that they just forbid mining in Ukraine. I have a company in EU where im having the miners delivered to (as Bitmain doesn't ship to Ukraine).

If Bitmain will not change shipping address, will simply re-route via UPS directly. Everything will be transparent, I don't have anything to hide. Serious comments and suggestions are welcome as to how to solve the problem in case Bitmain will not help...


Not afraid of not having ROI - these miners will pay back faster than any other mining options out there anyway.

And BTW
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I think mining is technically illegal in Europe as it's illegal to print money/ generate currency. But I'm not sure if there are specific laws or they can apply or warp existing laws to target mining.
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