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Author Topic: Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3  (Read 265872 times)
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September 27, 2017, 06:52:33 AM
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Agree with you bigjee and it looks even worse one of the largest resellers started this thread. I'm happy for the most part with all my bitmain purchases but the snakes in this industry are concentrated and relentless.  

I've been working on an Android device that helps miners with an old circuit board professional who used to work for one of the larger motherboard companies we all know. He wants to test the device using several things like time stamping and I suggested he launch a coin for it and then let the coins Blockchain help with his needs. It could be big it's a nice piece of hardware. We all want to see x11 blossom so I'll argue with him on reasons why it would be better for his product than using Ethereum. Wish me luck.
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September 27, 2017, 07:34:19 AM
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Cryptocrane sucks ass... stay away from re-sellers like them
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September 27, 2017, 07:42:18 AM
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Hi, I have problem with high chip temperatures on one D3 asic miner.
Miner works on default settings, one of chips have temperature - 79c, rest 2 chips have 65-69c, automatic fan speed is set to 4800 rpm.
This is strange because all other miners works with chip temperatures in range 61-73c and fan speed on them is about 4100 rpm.
Only that 1 miners is different, anyone know what is problem here, how to make him work like other miners? He hashing normaly under mentioned conditions, no HW errors (maybe few), I hope it can work like other miners...
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September 27, 2017, 08:16:01 AM
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Well....what I will get when my D3 goes up (today or tomorrow)

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17500.00&p=1000&pc=0.12&pf=0.00&d=4566805.05137939&r=1.80147602&er=0.08719137&btcer=4013.01410000&hc=0.00

At 17.5gh and 1000 watts I think I was told and 12c kwh I get

$45.71 after electric per day

Down from around $120 a day from a week ago I heard.... er 3k for this unit with the bitmain PSU and shpping/fees....and this could fall into the 'dubious' purchase history of my life

FYI

Your Lucky u didnt buy too many.


I cheated.......I need the equip deduction...I can pay the tax man 50% of income (one has consequences on 4.15 LTC to 50.00 LTC for the 2nd 1/2 of the year) or I can take
that 50% ..aim it at 'dubious' equipment (and pray) and than also off that get 100% off equip deduction in 1 year (vs usual 5 years) due to USA stimulus thing on biz equipment
...that adds another 25% real $$$ from Taxes I know I will owe...thus for 25% more risk than just taking the 50% tax pay to tax man...I can get 'dubious equip)

by the by now all bitmain equipment is dubious even to me......so essentially if I get 25% back from the equip its a wash....anything more and I'm golden...

so that is my angle (or situation)

but again the above was calculated....2 D3's (er maybe the 2nd D3 I got because everyone else wanted one....got caught in the hype) and the 3 L3+'s coming middle
of October

took my best shot...from now till Jan 1st I just ride and pay whatever income tax to the tax man I need to by Jan 1st, 2018......but w/o the above equipment I'd be
crying just as much as I am now..so again a wash.....

(Bitmain: doing evil clutches on miners since day 1.....(tm bitmain)



I would like to ask if there's a formula to obtain the difficulty from the network hash rate for dash

Not sure if this is what you mean...but the difficulty is shown in the below calculator...just put in the proper numbers for your miners

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=0&p=0&pc=0&pf=0.00&d=4566805.05137939&r=1.80147602&er=0.08719137&btcer=4013.01410000&hc=0.00



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September 27, 2017, 10:25:02 AM
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Any Info/Hint/Help to get one of this D3 miners ( including psu ) ?
From where to get it? Any referals?
Thank you, Cheers
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September 27, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
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Any Info/Hint/Help to get one of this D3 miners ( including psu ) ?
From where to get it? Any referals?
Thank you, Cheers


Not sure I'd get one at this price with difficulty and probably end of November Shipping at $1,450.00

but they are still listed on the bitmain site....remember to grab a PSU..they may run 2 miners but most of us only run them (any version) with 1 miner.

https://shop.bitmain.com/main.htm?lang=en

They also say it is Holiday from Oct 1st to Oct 8th in China. Damn, they do have a lot of long holidays. (envy)

That also comes up on the bitmain main page.

www.bitman.com

Again, imho and others on this thread...long dang odds on the unit you can buy now and probably NOT even looked at till next week with the holiday, will you ROI.

Hopefully, you have 3c kWh electric or something.

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September 27, 2017, 10:48:48 AM
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Any Info/Hint/Help to get one of this D3 miners ( including psu ) ?
From where to get it? Any referals?
Thank you, Cheers
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September 27, 2017, 11:13:42 AM
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After reading this thread and tracking the roi trend in the last 7 days its pretty obvious that resellers are going to start dumping their stock soon.

Take a quick look at the altcoin market place ppl are dumping their D3s (every 2nd 3rd post is a WTS Oct, Nov batch D3). Some even in hand selling for 1 BTC.
Looking at bitmains website the D3 was available to order for hours and no one touched it and it didn't sell out. At time of writing this you can still order one from Bitmain for 1450 USD Nov batch. https://shop.bitmain.com/main.htm?lang=en

Lessons I learned from this is never ever pay or trust a large reseller like Cryptocrane et al. and just because they have HUGE stock doesn't mean they wont fleece you like sheep.

I called out Cryptocrane (CC) on the bitsonline.com website (https://bitsonline.com/antminer-d3-first-look-review/) for scalping people shamelessly and its apparent now that they are crapping their pants and offering a 15% discount on their D3 that are in hand (10,000 > 8,500).
Ross or whoever deleted their post on bitsonline but the jist of it was that the commenters called them out for scalping.

Funny part is that CC thought that at 10,000$ these would still be profitable. Roll Eyes
I'd bet a D3 that you wont get your 10,000 back before the warranty on these things run out.

I hope they get stuck with them and a D3++ launches in a next month or so and unscrupulous reseller and scalpers are left holding an ASIC that isnt worth the materials its made of anymore.
Im not against cloud sigma and other resellers who have reasonable markups and offer value added services like hosting. Just these greedy af reseller like CC who want unrealistically expensive prices for their miners (6 to 7 times the amount for their D3).

I hope their stocks sell at a loss so that they learn to leave some of others and learn to share.
When I tried to give CC feedback that they were charging too much they didnt even respond and deleted their posts.
Good to know we can put a face to these greedy people now through their videos. What they do aint illegal but its the kinda shit you hear about and shake your head.




I am not trying to defend Cryptocrane or any reseller out there.
imho, they just a merchant that try to sell high because of higher demand, i dont think they rope the stock from bitmain, its fair and square in process to order from bitmain sales page.

They arent charity foundation, they are merchant and since the ancient time, that how its do work, buy cheap and sell with as much profit as they can get as long as demand still there. Its about demand, its about some greed people that think they can make fast and huge profit from buying and operating D3 asap, even with double or triple original price. Or i can simple said that greed merchant meet greed buyer make the price unreasonable.

Now, some people come to their sanity and wont buy at the price, and start to yelling how expensive the price, for what? to let others know its unreasonable price or to HOPE the reseller will lower their price or event curse them to be loss in investment.

If i am in reseller position, i will do the same, i will buy as much as my business calculation allow it and i will sell as high as people WANT TO BUY it
If i dont buy, some people will do, and some people will do as i do.
If you want to blame, maybe bitmain should take the responbility to the UNFAIR distribution, buy HEY.. bitmain is merchant too.
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September 27, 2017, 12:23:14 PM
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Trustplus is an x11 coin. Over 80% up today. I think these miners will save a few of these coins like Startcoin.

https://www.coingecko.com/en?hashing_algorithm=X11

Helium will be online in 10 days or so. Wonder if i should point my miner at that...

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September 27, 2017, 12:38:01 PM
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I was wondering if our presumption on the batch size from bitmain are real. For those curious, here's a simple estimate on the D3 miners active in dash from Sept.15th until today. The hopping is probably due to people hashing with switching pools. Roughly I've seen no more than 4900 miners online at any one time, so 5000 units for the first batches until now seem reasonable.

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September 27, 2017, 12:57:13 PM
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Well....what I will get when my D3 goes up (today or tomorrow)

https://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/dash-mining-calculator/?h=17500.00&p=1000&pc=0.12&pf=0.00&d=4566805.05137939&r=1.80147602&er=0.08719137&btcer=4013.01410000&hc=0.00

At 17.5gh and 1000 watts I think I was told and 12c kwh I get

$45.71 after electric per day

Down from around $120 a day from a week ago I heard.... er 3k for this unit with the bitmain PSU and shpping/fees....and this could fall into the 'dubious' purchase history of my life

FYI

but what can I say ? i have 2 d3s for end of november. i think i am fcked

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September 27, 2017, 12:58:15 PM
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As more miners (especially antminer D3) are coming into the market we see the difficulty reaching over 5mill certain days. It was a stable 1.5 mill just about a month ago.

Am trying to calculate/forecast the difficulty in a few months. Any projections on how many units are being released in November?
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September 27, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
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I am looking for 2 D3 at the end of Nov and all my hope gone after looking at the hash rate for DASH increasing minute by minute. However, there are some choices but DASH for X11 so what would be if I choose other coins instead of DASH. Can I have my ROI after 2, 3 months with these coins.

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September 27, 2017, 02:25:12 PM
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Are there still many of you guys who are waiting for the delivery of your september batch? I haven´t received any new infos...status is still not shipped.  Embarrassed

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September 27, 2017, 02:55:20 PM
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Are there still many of you guys who are waiting for the delivery of your september batch? I haven´t received any new infos...status is still not shipped.  Embarrassed


Did you contact support? I guess you did, but just checking.

I had great customer support in the past, even if most people here will say otherwise lol


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September 27, 2017, 03:01:25 PM
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Hey I wonder,

Why is Bitmain still selling the November 21-30th batch on their site ? They've been selling it for like 2 weeks now.

What is your guess: No more interest or... the batch is huge ?
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September 27, 2017, 03:33:14 PM
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Are there still many of you guys who are waiting for the delivery of your september batch? I haven´t received any new infos...status is still not shipped.  Embarrassed

even mine 2 are unshipped, both from different accounts, Most probably if you are Indian there is an Ongoing issue with customs due to which they have stopped shipping to India.


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September 27, 2017, 04:27:14 PM
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If anybody wants 3 D3's around mid-October drop me a PM sure we can sort something out, decided to sell mine the day they arrive.

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September 27, 2017, 05:13:01 PM
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Is there mabe some possibility, that(since D3 was on sale few hours and people didnt buy it as fast as possible like few other times) Bitmain is dumping all there D3s on sale since profit is getting lower and lower, and they have Manufactured A LOT of D3s, that they maybe have "in pocket" new D3 Version. And after they sell everything they will update? Since batch sizes are really GIGANTIC and profit is closing barely to pay itself for electricity.. Or maybe i am overthinking this? What is your opinion on this?

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September 27, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
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Is there mabe some possibility, that(since D3 was on sale few hours and people didnt buy it as fast as possible like few other times) Bitmain is dumping all there D3s on sale since profit is getting lower and lower, and they have Manufactured A LOT of D3s, that they maybe have "in pocket" new D3 Version. And after they sell everything they will update? Since batch sizes are really GIGANTIC and profit is closing barely to pay itself for electricity.. Or maybe i am overthinking this? What is your opinion on this?

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