Bitmain looks like they're releasing a 15GH/s DASH miner called the AntMiner D3

[castiel0504]

VAT For my country is 30% , its really 20% but they add 10% on ask god what tax. There is catch to avoid tax, to make your miner looks "used" scratch your miner case. But you cant ask from bitmain to do that... Can maybe Bitmain write value of miner on invoice that it costs like 300-400e?

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[bytiges]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

Whatever it is I'll have to pay it to import them (like DHL fees for processing the package. It's never a clean cut).

[anupans]

VAT For my country is 30% , its really 20% but they add 10% on ask god what tax. There is catch to avoid tax, to make your miner looks "used" scratch your miner case. But you cant ask from bitmain to do that... Can maybe Bitmain write value of miner on invoice that it costs like 300-400e?

Same here. it's around 17% in my country and maybe some for an officer who in charge in this case.  

What a shame to customs officer!!

[Albortz]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

I think he is talking about the handling fees from DHL/UPS. VAT is the most expensive part tho. Only problem is that you cant deduct it since you are nt the one who pad it :/

[Tai_Pan]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

I think he is talking about the handling fees from DHL/UPS. VAT is the most expensive part tho. Only problem is that you cant deduct it since you are nt the one who pad it :/

It's really up to each country.
In my case, for example, there are:

1.19% VAT
2.a % as a national customs tax, based on the type of the product and according to the TARIC EU table
3.a standard fee if you want the shipping company to represent you at the customs

[Xenomole]

sorry to hear that man :/ I know that has to be incredibly frustrating

Places like PayPal are why cryptocurrencies like BTC can go far.

M

This is true, but advantage of PP is that they are guarantee that the seller is not fake.  People are afraid of buying for Bitcoin because they are not sure that the seller will send the goods.

i recommend selling via purse.io which holds the buyers BTC in escrow until buyer verifies item was received, thus buyer can feel safer placing order. Seller must have tracking number to prove delivery in case buyer does not release escrow, which you submit to purse.io as proof to release BTC to seller.

I have a brand new sealed iPhone 6 that I plan to sell through them because stories of scam buyers on eBay and Paypal are so common it is too risky for high price items.

Instead, however, the buyer can scam the seller.  Not a good deal.

M

see my response above

[RealKariverson]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

 Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

I never said it's not enough. It's more than enough! I have 24% in my country. I was just saying if you use the correct taric codes atleast you save some extra 10% they might try to steal from you.

[RealKariverson]

BTW has anyone gotten shipping confirmation for October 15th batch?

[thiec]

Several month before everyone looking for D3, many people WANT TO BUY
NOW, everyone looking for BUYER, and want to sell as soon as possible before the price drop or the profit go to hell
Several month later, ........................

What do you want to or hope to fill in that blank?

[thesavoyard]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

 Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

I paid 586 euros in France. No one will answer why i was so badly overcharged. I am reclaiming 100% though as a business expense.

[Bibi187]

My test is running for 5 days now, granatgas in winning actually with higher fee.

Granatgas have 2% fee, Zpool have 1% fee.

I will let this one run for 2 days more and stop it.


Zpool

   Dash
(total pending)   0.02187792   0.00530734      0.02718526 DASH
   Balance      0.00038378 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.02756904 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.39179026 DASH
   Total Earned      0.41935930 DASH


Granatgas

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01357193   0.00617151      0.01974344 DASH
   Balance      0.01147243 DASH
   Total Paid      0.50779724 DASH

Where do you live ? I'm locate in south east asia and worried about granatgas server latency coz they don't have any asia server.

0.1 Dash / day is not bad .

I live in french, i have something like 100ms to get a answer from granatgas, but we using stratum protocol so everything is fine

I stopped my D3 on zpool ... After some deep check it seems, sometime on Zpool my miner hanging and w8ting for a share submission. In result my fan running at 100% w8ting for a job ... I mine at home so, i cant handle every 2-4 hours 1 or 2 minute at 100% airflow ... On practice they running at 43% without any issue.

In conclusion i stop using Zpool for moment ... Or at least for X11 algo.

[LiteMine]

My test is running for 5 days now, granatgas in winning actually with higher fee.

Granatgas have 2% fee, Zpool have 1% fee.

I will let this one run for 2 days more and stop it.


Zpool

   Dash
(total pending)   0.02187792   0.00530734      0.02718526 DASH
   Balance      0.00038378 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.02756904 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.39179026 DASH
   Total Earned      0.41935930 DASH


Granatgas

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01357193   0.00617151      0.01974344 DASH
   Balance      0.01147243 DASH
   Total Paid      0.50779724 DASH

Where do you live ? I'm locate in south east asia and worried about granatgas server latency coz they don't have any asia server.

0.1 Dash / day is not bad .

I live in french, i have something like 100ms to get a answer from granatgas, but we using stratum protocol so everything is fine

I stopped my D3 on zpool ... After some deep check it seems, sometime on Zpool my miner hanging and w8ting for a share submission. In result my fan running at 100% w8ting for a job ... I mine at home so, i cant handle every 2-4 hours 1 or 2 minute at 100% airflow ... On practice they running at 43% without any issue.

In conclusion i stop using Zpool for moment ... Or at least for X11 algo.

Zpool is a scam, taking 20% fee and telling you otherwise. The numbers quoted above are 16% off and I've seen 20% with my L3+ mining for days there. He's basically giving you the Dash payout and taking the extra profit from switching for himself.

He sucks you in with the ridiculous payout numbers on his home page, which are probably what he makes, but not what you make lol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1951402.0

waiting for the sockpuppet defenses to show up...

[mdude77]

Zpool is a scam, taking 20% fee and telling you otherwise. The numbers quoted above are 16% off and I've seen 20% with my L3+ mining for days there. He's basically giving you the Dash payout and taking the extra profit from switching for himself.

He sucks you in with the ridiculous payout numbers on his home page, which are probably what he makes, but not what you make lol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1951402.0

waiting for the sockpuppet defenses to show up...

I haven't looked at this pool.  However, it's possible it uses something like PPLNS which means it takes a few days for full payouts to "ramp up"?

I'm just speculating and by no means defending him.

M

[zamans98]

My test is running for 5 days now, granatgas in winning actually with higher fee.

Granatgas have 2% fee, Zpool have 1% fee.

I will let this one run for 2 days more and stop it.


Zpool

   Dash
(total pending)   0.02187792   0.00530734      0.02718526 DASH
   Balance      0.00038378 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.02756904 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.39179026 DASH
   Total Earned      0.41935930 DASH


Granatgas

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01357193   0.00617151      0.01974344 DASH
   Balance      0.01147243 DASH
   Total Paid      0.50779724 DASH

Where do you live ? I'm locate in south east asia and worried about granatgas server latency coz they don't have any asia server.

0.1 Dash / day is not bad .

I live in french, i have something like 100ms to get a answer from granatgas, but we using stratum protocol so everything is fine

I stopped my D3 on zpool ... After some deep check it seems, sometime on Zpool my miner hanging and w8ting for a share submission. In result my fan running at 100% w8ting for a job ... I mine at home so, i cant handle every 2-4 hours 1 or 2 minute at 100% airflow ... On practice they running at 43% without any issue.

In conclusion i stop using Zpool for moment ... Or at least for X11 algo.

intermittent downtime here on granatgas pool. Seems that there's server issue. At least from my end.

[Bibi187]

My test is running for 5 days now, granatgas in winning actually with higher fee.

Granatgas have 2% fee, Zpool have 1% fee.

I will let this one run for 2 days more and stop it.


Zpool

   Dash
(total pending)   0.02187792   0.00530734      0.02718526 DASH
   Balance      0.00038378 DASH
   Total Unpaid ****      0.02756904 DASH
   Total Paid ***      0.39179026 DASH
   Total Earned      0.41935930 DASH


Granatgas

   Dash
(Pending Balance)   0.01357193   0.00617151      0.01974344 DASH
   Balance      0.01147243 DASH
   Total Paid      0.50779724 DASH

Where do you live ? I'm locate in south east asia and worried about granatgas server latency coz they don't have any asia server.

0.1 Dash / day is not bad .

I live in french, i have something like 100ms to get a answer from granatgas, but we using stratum protocol so everything is fine

I stopped my D3 on zpool ... After some deep check it seems, sometime on Zpool my miner hanging and w8ting for a share submission. In result my fan running at 100% w8ting for a job ... I mine at home so, i cant handle every 2-4 hours 1 or 2 minute at 100% airflow ... On practice they running at 43% without any issue.

In conclusion i stop using Zpool for moment ... Or at least for X11 algo.

intermittent downtime here on granatgas pool. Seems that there's server issue. At least from my end.

All of your miner have this issue ? One of my D3 seems to see pool dead sometime, but not the other one ...

Same network, same switch, a simple ping running on google resolve this issue.

8h straight without a disconnect from pool, have to reboot my miner this morning.

[Bombardier]

what's wrong with antpool ?

[Bibi187]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

 Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

I paid 586 euros in France. No one will answer why i was so badly overcharged. I am reclaiming 100% though as a business expense.

I leave in French to and receive my D3 + PSU, is weird i only pay 516,94 euros per setup.

[thesavoyard]

I'll pay import taxes and VAT.

There are no import taxes for miners in Europe. Only VAT.

 Surely there is only VAT to pay for EU, but is not it enough that you have to pay from 19% to 23% of the declared value? in some cases like if you buy directly from Bitmain you even pay 500 euros or more?

I paid 586 euros in France. No one will answer why i was so badly overcharged. I am reclaiming 100% though as a business expense.

I leave in French to and receive my D3 + PSU, is weird i only pay 516,94 euros per setup.

I tried contacting rod@fedex.com and they will not respond. I'm getting very sick of the careless way business has been handled by customs and shippers in France.

[mdude77]

what's wrong with antpool ?

Antpool is run by one of the most despised companies in the crypomining world: Bitmain.  Bitmain has far too much influence in the crypto world, so anyone who believes in even a smidgen of the concept of cryptocurrencies and the diversity they support won't use Antpool.

That and I'm told their payouts are pretty horrid.

M

[Bombardier]

what's wrong with antpool ?

Antpool is run by one of the most despised companies in the crypomining world: Bitmain.  Bitmain has far too much influence in the crypto world, so anyone who believes in even a smidgen of the concept of cryptocurrencies and the diversity they support won't use Antpool.

That and I'm told their payouts are pretty horrid.

M

Thanks for the explanation. I know that bitmain is the most greedy despised crypto company but I thought is anything else beside that...