Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic]

[Peyko]

After further testing with the bot:

i was able to change the + and - on the ROC. Sometimes it switches on the indicator chart but now not no more. In the window where to adjust the ROC rate it show buy = -0.005 and sell=0.005 ( i guess this is what we need). In the chart it says green (buy on 0.005) and sell (red) on -0.005. This really sucks...

Ok been working on this ROC for a long time.  I think these numbers are backwards.

Edit Rate of Change Window:
Buy at Value +0.005
Sell at Value -0.005

Those values always gets bot to buy high and sell low.  If i switch them it just causes strange stuff.

Please shed some light on this cause I'm really tired of trying to

Dont want to start my bot with it selling at lows, buying at high.
Am i doing it right or wrong?
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Edit:
Another question:

Here is the only settings I've been able to get working.  I've tried to save the log but that does not work.  Copy to clip board or save to txt file.  

On a 600sec (10min) interval I use one indicator with standard advance settings.

MACD-MA set at 9-11 with a 40 interval

Start the logging near a low in price helps

When Jabbers says 9-11 with a 40 interval, does he mean SMA short = 9, SMA long = 11 and signal length = 40? Or can someone help me undestand this too?

Sincerly,

Peyko.

[Stephan224]

The update to version 0.9.5.0 is now available. Please restart your trade server to get the update automatically.

(I will add a notification next time in the interface, so it becomes directly visible)

Part 1 (of 3) of the API is also ready:
http://www.haasbot.com/wp-content/uploads/API.txt

I also hope to finish up the documentation (help) by the end of the week.

@Peyko:
They look good to me.

[Peyko]

Stephan, is my ROC settings correct, or do i need to change the + and - around?

[Jabbers]

After further testing with the bot:

i was able to change the + and - on the ROC. Sometimes it switches on the indicator chart but now not no more. In the window where to adjust the ROC rate it show buy = -0.005 and sell=0.005 ( i guess this is what we need). In the chart it says green (buy on 0.005) and sell (red) on -0.005. This really sucks...

Ok been working on this ROC for a long time.  I think these numbers are backwards.

Edit Rate of Change Window:
Buy at Value +0.005
Sell at Value -0.005

Those values always gets bot to buy high and sell low.  If i switch them it just causes strange stuff.

Please shed some light on this cause I'm really tired of trying to

Dont want to start my bot with it selling at lows, buying at high.
Am i doing it right or wrong?



Edit:
Another question:

Here is the only settings I've been able to get working.  I've tried to save the log but that does not work.  Copy to clip board or save to txt file.  

On a 600sec (10min) interval I use one indicator with standard advance settings.

MACD-MA set at 9-11 with a 40 interval

Start the logging near a low in price helps

When Jabbers says 9-11 with a 40 interval, does he mean SMA short = 9, SMA long = 11 and signal length = 40? Or can someone help me undestand this too?

Sincerly,

Peyko.

Yes, that is what I meant.  This Macd-Ma of short = 9, long = 11, and signal length = 40 on a 10 min timer was done a little bit after I got Simple Trade Bot.  At the time I knew less then I know now.  It worked well for it skimmed the peaks of price changes.  I've learned it really is eaten up by exchange fees, especially when trading with more then 0.01 bitcoins.

I'm benching new settings now on.  Using a Macd with either a RSI or Stochastic indicators.  Basically a slow moving indicator paired with a fast acting one.  Works nicely.  But I need to understand more how the two work together.  I feel like I'm still guessing, not really knowing what I'm doing.

[papasmurph]

Stephan,

that is a word thanks. 
That makes you real.
I will post later some results from testing with option 1

Could you link me to it, I can't find a mail. Or explain shortly what I need to do to get unlimited bots option?

Well at the current moment i recommend you to do nothing. Today i am testing and verifying the release of this eve. Once the tests are done i will post there is an update. After this update i will be on standby for a while to see it there are any problems for anybody.

Tomorrow i will begin to roll out the donation license. All users who stayed at option 1 will get a update. In other words, the update is coming your way.

If you like the new update then you can update for 0.05 BTC to get a extra trade-bot (the donation license will support 2 bots, the new simple license support 3) or if you really like it and you want to scale up then you can get an update for 0.45 BTC to the advanced bot. The only thing you need to do to upgrade is submit a support ticket and we create a coupon for you.

This offer to update later on remain standing for all the users, so there is no rush. Just take the time you want.

@Jabbers:
Can you post a screenshot of a different website showing the same data too? This can be very interesting for all the readers here. A image or screenshot says more then i can explain in words.

[Jabbers]

Does exiting out and restarting Trade Server do this to the bot list?


View Screen Capture

This happens some of the times but not everytime i close out the app

[Stephan224]

No.

[Peyko]

Got the new version now A little question:
Since its running on a local host (website), can i close my computer or do i still have to keep it running in order to not stop the bot?
Can i acces the bot now from all my computers and therefore dont have to keep "this" computer alive?

- Peyko.

[silverston]

If I bought or sold manualy, how I can show to bot like in old version?

[Jabbers]

  New settings didn't do too well on the latest crash.  Both bots had brought in around 822 an hour before the crash.  I'm running two different Macd/RSI settings.  The RSI kept the bots in when the Macd was screaming 'Get Out !'

Looking forward to the benchmarking tool coming   I've got to try different buy and sell indicators

[Stephan224]

@silverston:
It depend on your order if you can see it or not...
Market orders are progressed directly, so it very unlikely you will see them in the order list at all.

But you can review the orderlists on 2 places... on the bottom of the "trade now" page of at the "open orders" page. If you placed a limit order, you must see it in the lists.


@Jabbers:
At the current moment i am working on the benckmark tool, but its a hard one due the inter-market capabilities and its hard because of the multi-threaded engine. But i am sure we will succeed in adding it.

The best advice i can give for benchmarking now is to setup a strategy and leave it running for a while without activating the bot. This way you get the insight about the response of the indicators. But its of course not the same, i agree. Its a temporary (but useful) solution. I do the same here, i setup a big load of indicators on different setting and i review them after an hour or so.

BTW I was able to avoid the crash, so it is sure not impossible. I am sure more people jumped out in time but they did not reported it (yet). 


@All:
As you all know we are still behind with writing the help, however some bits and pieces are coming together now and i already like to share some information. I know its limited, but it will provide you at least with some information.

https://www.haasbot.com/indicator-rsi/
https://www.haasbot.com/indicator-stochastic-oscillator/

I am planning to describe all the indicators this way. I hope its useful and clear for everybody this way.

[silverston]

Stephan224
You do not understand me. If I bought or sold manually, through the exchange and want to turn on the bot, how can I show to bot the last bought or sold price?

[Jabbers]

Stephan224
You do not understand me. If I bought or sold manually, through the exchange and want to turn on the bot, how can I show to bot the last bought or sold price?

In Simple Trade bot one would manually add it, but the new trade server thats a good question.  Thats why I have been stating which bot I'm refering to.

[Stephan224]

Ah you are referring to the last buy and sell price of a trade-bot... at the current moment it is not possible to change them using the interface.

I can offer a quick solution to still make this work. But it requires some tweaking so i do not recommend this for the average user.

Near the application .EXE files there is a file called "tradebots.XML" if you edit this file you will see all your trade-bots listed. In there you will also find fields called "LastBuyPrice" and "LastSellPrice". If you fill those fields with the prices and start the software again it should all work. Again, its a quick solution here, i will add the edit fields to solve it permanent. Good point.

BTW always make a backup copy first. If anything goes wrong you can undo the changes this way.

[BitcoinsNL]

There are some awesome new features in the trading bot that were not in the BETA 'donation version' of the bot. Definitly something to check out. You can read all about it at the website of Stephan.

I you need a final push to buy the software, use the coupon code BITCOINNL for a nice discount.

[Peyko]

Got the new version now A little question:
Since its running on a local host (website), can i close my computer or do i still have to keep it running in order to not stop the bot?
Can i acces the bot now from all my computers and therefore dont have to keep "this" computer alive?

- Peyko.

This question still stands. Can i close the browser and still have my bot running, or do i need to keep my computer turned on in order for the bots to run?

And where can i get information about the different safeties and insurances?

[silverston]

Got the new version now A little question:
Since its running on a local host (website), can i close my computer or do i still have to keep it running in order to not stop the bot?
Can i acces the bot now from all my computers and therefore dont have to keep "this" computer alive?

- Peyko.

This question still stands. Can i close the browser and still have my bot running, or do i need to keep my computer turned on in order for the bots to run?

And where can i get information about the different safeties and insurances?

yea, same questions about safeties.
Once I turning on safetie DynamicRoofOut - bot immediately sold out

[Jabbers]

Yes, you can close out the browser Tab and Trade Server will keep running in the background.  I'm sure you may have notice a little white bunny icon in the Taskbar Notification area.  If you close that then Trade Server will shut down.

[eyegoatboy]

New settings didn't do too well on the latest crash.  Both bots had brought in around 822 an hour before the crash.  I'm running two different Macd/RSI settings.  The RSI kept the bots in when the Macd was screaming 'Get Out !'

Looking forward to the benchmarking tool coming   I've got to try different buy and sell indicators

bug???  StochRSI Indicator only working on 1min intervals

[garry]

Hey Stephan,

I'm getting this message when starting the HTS: "Licence key has been activated too many times, please contact support." I haven't used it on any other computers, I've just been restarting my computer a lot lately, perhaps that messed up with my license activation?

Regards,
Garry

Edit: I PM'd you my account details on your website.