Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic]

[SmokedMolex]

Perfect!  I will give it a spin and see how it goes.

[RodCR]

Would there be a way that allows you to check only the alts you want to track?  It seems kind of weird to have an all or nothing option.

[SmokedMolex]

I run it on a dedicated Pentium G3220 with 8GB of RAM.  I left the settings at 5000.

I see it throttles the CPU to 50-60% and then it goes back down to around 2%.

It doesn't seem to be causing a problem. (so far)

[orac69]

Stephan,

You said - "I recommend unpacking the file "update.zip" manually"

Where is this update.zip file?

I downloaded the latest "HaasonlineTradingServerV010.zip" and extracted everything to my install folder and restarted, but I dont see the trade bot summary OR the new 3 buttons in the indicator reports.

Why dont you write an installer which takes a backup, then simple searches for and updates everything as needed, exiting / restarting as needed...? 

The old uninstall, reinstall thing from the previous STB, or now manually copying files around is getting a bit annoying.

[Stephan224]

I do not expect to see anybody having problems with the system resources at all. The trade server handles everything multi-threaded and memory usage is limited. At the moment i do run it here on my own server existing out of a old Intel Atom 1,6GHz and 2GB. It runs with the alt-coins enabled and it handles 6 bots at the moment. (this is near the upper limit for my atom, those cpus are very slow)

It may look weird to poll all the alt-coin prices at once, but we do have more plans with it. Just wait and see, it will be (i think) 2-3 weeks but there is something planned here that has not been seen in the market yet.


@orac69:
Well the matter of fact is that it is possible to uninstall and install without losing any of your settings. We made a few buttons inside the troubleshooter to make this work in case its needed. But most of the times it will not be needed, because of the build-in updater. The updater will take care of the update itself, you as the end-user do not have to do a thing. The updater does exactly like you suggest, the update makes an backup copy then it updates the files. After this a restart is done and you are ready to use the software again without losing any settings.

The file "update.zip" is only there if the software tries to do an update. In your case you did an clean install and then all sources are already up to date, an update is not needed in that case.

I find it a little strange that you did not find the interface changes, because at a clean install i am sure they must be there. Are you sure you look to the "Edit indicator" page?


@All:
Tomorrow (Wednesday) i will push another update to solve the problem with MtGox. This seems to be the only bug at the moment so i want to solve this as soon as possible.


Something else...  i am happy to report that i have setup a team here who started to develop an alternative interface. This team will be trying to make a interactive interface based on jquery. So improvement is on its way, but i can not give an estimate to it. The interface itself will be implemented as a separate theme, so its becomes optional.

[trubar]

FUTURE REQUEST: Can you implement auto start of server as service so there is no need to login into windows? Anyway if my computer restarts how can I set trade server that will start also?

[orac69]

@Stephan224

I downloaded and installed v0.9.5.0 I think from your new website yesterday morning, then in the afternoon when I restarted it offered me the update to v0.9.6.1 - which seemed to apply just fine.

I have no new 3 indicator buttons in the "Edit Indicator" page.

I have no update.zip file.

I would post a screenshot but not sure how to embed one in a post here.

[Jabbers]

Nice improvements   I really like the additional info on the "Trade Bot List"

I've been quite for I have not been using things till the Benchmark Tool goes live.  Waiting for that 

Keep up on the good work

[SmokedMolex]

@Stephan,

Could you please write a little bit about how the safeties work?

I have tried looking them up in trading dictionaries but I am not able to find what "RoofOut" means etc.

I presume it is when the signal turns 90 degrees to fall, the bot would sell out before the signal reached the base line.  Is this correct?

Thank you

[Jabbers]

@Stephan,

Could you please write a little bit about how the safeties work?

I have tried looking them up in trading dictionaries but I am not able to find what "RoofOut" means etc.

I presume it is when the signal turns 90 degrees to fall, the bot would sell out before the signal reached the base line.  Is this correct?

Thank you

No. I don't think thats how the 'RoofOut' works.  I just looked over the Indicator.  It looks more like its a 'Limit Sell Order'

Notice in the static Roofout it asks for a price while the Dynamic Roofout asks for a percentage above the buy price.  That tells me it works oppisite of how a stop loss does.

Roof Out would be used to secure profits in a gaining trade.  Since we can't know for sure how high a price will gain in a trade some like to limit their outcome by selling early to secure a profit.

[SmokedMolex]

Thanks for explaining that.

I've given this thing 20 LTC as a test on BTCe.  It's turned $.50 in profits.  

So I definitely don't have something right but wanted to make sure I had the right kinds of safety before I start telling it to do something....extremely stupid.

[SmokedMolex]

I think I see what I've done wrong with my indicators.  They were set on a really conservative setting.

So I changed that and the bots are more aggressive now.

Also I noticed my Doge wasn't getting traded out. Turns out I forgot to get the exchange on the indicators.

I should be all set now, I hope. 

[SmokedMolex]

@Stephan

Feature request:

News items open in new window or new tab.

[silverston]

@Stephan,

Could you please write a little bit about how the safeties work?

I have tried looking them up in trading dictionaries but I am not able to find what "RoofOut" means etc.

I presume it is when the signal turns 90 degrees to fall, the bot would sell out before the signal reached the base line.  Is this correct?

Thank you

RoofOut - this is a dangerous function! If you activate this function, DO NOT immediately start activate the bot, you need to give him a At least 10 minutes to work offline. I had already twice that after restart, bot sold immediately at any price. I have already lost at this 0.5 BTC
@Stephan
this is normal or is there a solution?

[SmokedMolex]

That is probably how I lost money right out the starting gate.  It's ok.  It was only a couple dollars.

[orac69]

Stephan,

I know that with the simple bot licence, you only get 2 trade bots..Right now if I try and add a 3rd I simply cant..

However I think you should allow unlimited trade bots - so people can set them up for testing for example.   I want to set up more for testing different exchanges etc.  Right now I cant as it would disrupt my active bots.. 

So I think the licence key should restrict ACTIVE / TRADING bots, not the total number of trade bots added...

[Stephan224]

Wow lot of very good suggestions here, i will have a look to them all. Especially that one of orac69 gets me thinking...

At the moment i am working on fixing MtGox, there are some problems with that and they are a little bigger then expected. I also got a lot of confirmations of that the user-interface was not updated at everybody. So i will be making a quickfix to solve this problem as soon as i get it fixed here. You can expect to see version 0.9.6.2 being pushed real soon.

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I think i can explain the RoofOut the best by calling it the reversed DropLoss. As you all know the droploss acts when a price gets lower then, the roofout does the same but when a price goes higher then.

The idea behind is that you can jump out with your investment when prices are off the scale. At a moment when the market is going mad. For example, we all have seen the high peaks of (what was it exactly?) $1200 on Btc/Usd before. Well if you had a RoofOut set at $1150 of even the $1200 then you are the ones who have sold just in time. So before the peak and before the big drop where no orders gets progressed anymore. In plain words: then you can call yourself rich i guess, depending on your investment of course.

The RoofOut should not fire directly after activation, i can confirm it happens to the dynamic one and this is a big bug. (btw i do recommend to use the static one anyway, then you know what will happen)

I will be back soon with the news of the update and to answer any remaining questions.


Edit:
I just updated the Trade Server to version 0.9.6.2

It solves the problem with MtGox, it solves the interface for those who did not get it the first time and i have added some additional alt-coins (Cash, Leaf, Meow and Vtc).

[papasmurph]

 

just no comment, thanks Stephan. Good work and respect.

Doge BTC   Cryptsy   DogeBtc   10000   Sold   True   19

Last buy price:   0.00000152 Btc
Last sell price:   0.00000159 Btc
Last profit made:   0.00070000 Btc
Total profit made:   0.00010000 Btc

2/3/2014 6:55 PM   Sell      0.00000154   0.0      0.0   0.0
2/4/2014 12:23 AM   Buy   0.00000154         0.00000154      
2/4/2014 12:37 AM   Sell      0.00000155   0.00000154      0.00010000   0.00010000
2/4/2014 12:46 AM   Buy   0.00000154         0.00000155      
2/4/2014 2:20 AM   Sell      0.00000155   0.00000154      0.00010000   0.00020000
2/4/2014 2:28 AM   Buy   0.00000154         0.00000155      
2/4/2014 3:01 AM   Sell      0.00000155   0.00000154      0.00010000   0.00030000
2/4/2014 4:01 AM   Buy   0.00000154         0.00000155      
2/4/2014 8:32 PM   Sell      0.00000140   0.00000154      -0.00140000   -0.00110000
2/5/2014 1:36 AM   Buy   0.00000153         0.0      
2/5/2014 2:58 AM   Sell      0.00000155   0.00000153      0.00020000   -0.00090000
2/5/2014 3:16 AM   Buy   0.00000155         0.00000155      
2/5/2014 4:03 AM   Sell      0.00000156   0.00000155      0.00010000   -0.00080000
2/5/2014 4:34 AM   Buy   0.00000156         0.00000156      
2/5/2014 7:49 AM   Sell      0.00000157   0.00000156      0.00010000   -0.00070000
2/5/2014 10:29 AM   Buy   0.00000157         0.00000157      
2/5/2014 10:47 AM   Sell      0.00000158   0.00000157      0.00010000   -0.00060000
2/5/2014 3:54 PM   Buy   0.00000152         0.00000158      
2/5/2014 6:12 PM   Sell      0.00000159   0.00000152      0.00070000   0.00010000


Doge LTC   Cryptsy   DogeLtc   10000   Bought   True   12

Last buy price:   0.00005954 Ltc
Last sell price:   0.00006025 Ltc
Last profit made:   0.00930000 Ltc
Total profit made:   0.01640000 Ltc
Total trades made:   12

2/3/2014 7:47 PM   Sell      0.00005818   0.0      0.0   0.0
2/3/2014 8:15 PM   Buy   0.00005844         0.00005818      
2/3/2014 11:33 PM   Sell      0.00005879   0.00005844      0.00350000   0.00350000
2/3/2014 11:46 PM   Buy   0.00005860         0.00005879      
2/4/2014 12:24 AM   Sell      0.00005870   0.00005860      0.00100000   0.00450000
2/4/2014 1:07 AM   Buy   0.00005871         0.00005870      
2/5/2014 3:59 AM   Sell      0.00005869   0.0      0.0   0.00450000
2/5/2014 5:27 AM   Buy   0.00005923         0.00005869      
2/5/2014 6:44 AM   Sell      0.00005949   0.00005923      0.00260000   0.00710000
2/5/2014 7:28 AM   Buy   0.00005932         0.00005949      
2/5/2014 11:22 AM   Sell      0.00006025   0.00005932      0.00930000   0.01640000
2/5/2014 12:27 PM   Buy   0.00005954         0.00006025   

[Stephan224]

@trubar:
That request will be granted, i have added it it manually to the startup here but an option might be a more elegant solution. Good thinking!

@SmokedMolex:
I have it planned the benchmark to be released on monday, if all goed well. (btw there is already a huge benefit in running the simple benchmark of the indicator, i am not sure if you have seen it)

@orac69:
I will get back on that idea, i like it and it can be very usefull i think.

@papasmurph:
Great to see you are making some good trades last night. At the moment i am adding the fee costs the the log so it must become even better to read.

If you want to improve i can advice to use the high/low price indicator, i did better on DOGE with that once last night with this indicator. If you look to the prices of DOGE you see it evolves around 0.00000150 and its stable enough to use fixed prices. This advice applies to almost all the alt-coins. If you see the pattern, use it. The software is made just to do exactly that, monitor and trade on the prices 24hours a day.


BTW I also have the change log on my website now, this way everybody can see whats coming next or what has been planned/changed.
https://www.haasbot.com/change-log-3/

[orac69]

Another suggestion - have an (optional) ability to request user logon / password to the web interface....