Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic]

[xpumpa]

Cryptsy still return 500 Internal Server Error for authenticated request Theirs api is piece of shit.

[1714875541]

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[eyegoatboy]

just had a support ticket from crypsty there reply said
 >>Does simple trade bot increment the nonce variable? This has been an issue with many users since we patched a bug <<<

[bx8389]

Long time lurker, first post blah blah..

I also would like to echo what's being said.. Please stop adding things before the basics are fixed. However some sort of benchmarking tool is absolutely necessary, bots pretty useless without it. I understand your working on this but this 'autotune' feature again sounds overly complicated. I honestly wish you had stuck to the simple trading bot and just made that as rock solid as possible.

I appreciate your hard work on this but remember people are paying a lot of money for this bot and do expect a reasonable product.

I agree ( and most of people ) that this bot seems to have a high potential and have some nice features. But this bot have some reability problems and looking before i was unable to maintain it working more than 2-3 day without surprises. Last 2 days my STB was frozen in the middle of cryptocrisis without warning and gave a exception when try to operate it. Before i have the "best before 31 january 2014" problem good for yougurt but bad for software. Today won't start on bitstamp only btc-e. And so on.
I don't plan to expend more on STB upgrade not because i haven't got ROI (Market is bearish)  but mainly because if older STB have reability issues after months of development and fine tunning what is expected about and much more complex new piece software ?

Regards

Today I discovered again a frozen bot with last update at feb 28 23:59:41 and no trades after: I think to be a "Best before 1 march 2014 syndrome" or another stability problem again.

If this is a plan to force people to switch to new bot i have to say: you win!! I will switch to another bot but not yours. Beg every month to have a working software is not tolerable after a substantial "donation" and any change/correction/upgrade on old STB

[Johnik]

DynamicHighLow fuck my wallet with fees. (DOGE/BTC)

1. 3. 2014 23:15   Buy   0.00000187         0.00000187         0.00056100      
1. 3. 2014 23:16   Sell      0.00000187   0.00000187      0.00000000   0.00150000   0.00056100   0.00224100   -0.00074100
1. 3. 2014 23:17   Buy   0.00000187         0.00000187         0.00056100      
1. 3. 2014 23:18   Sell      0.00000187   0.00000187      0.00000000   0.00150000   0.00056100   0.00336300   -0.00186300
1. 3. 2014 23:19   Buy   0.00000187         0.00000187         0.00056100      
1. 3. 2014 23:20   Sell      0.00000187   0.00000187      0.00000000   0.00150000   0.00056100   0.00448500   -0.00298500

Why buy and sell for same price ? DoubleFeeCost insurance is on. Every minute bot trade with same price, so after night i pay only fees > many.
I deactivated bot on time, ufff. thank god.

[xpumpa]

 
Tonight stop trading because open orders. Please this is important thing fro smooth function of the bot and and especially ROLLBACK unfinished order including fees.


Now i can't edit any bot with this error. [i replaced price numbers with x]

Something went wrong. Exception message: {"success":1,"return":{"funds":{"usd":x.02079556,"btc":x.02333462,"ltc":x.47533599,"nmc":0,"rur":0,"eur":0,"nvc":x.00000006,"trc":x.01439352,"ppc":x.96200002,"ftc":0,"xpm":0},"rights":{"info":1,"trade":1,"withdraw":0},"transaction_count":690,"open_orders":1,"server_time":1393745871}}

[Stephan224]

Today I discovered again a frozen bot with last update at feb 28 23:59:41 and no trades after: I think to be a "Best before 1 march 2014 syndrome" or another stability problem again.

If this is a plan to force people to switch to new bot i have to say: you win!! I will switch to another bot but not yours. Beg every month to have a working software is not tolerable after a substantial "donation" and any change/correction/upgrade on old STB

All the STB user who stayed at option 1 have gotten the fee upgrade. It listed in this topic for a few times now, its posted at the website and its even posted at the old website. But if you never read anything then you will not notice this. 

just had a support ticket from crypsty there reply said
 >>Does simple trade bot increment the nonce variable? This has been an issue with many users since we patched a bug <<<

The nonce variable is build in and supported. We are up to date with the specifications.

Tonight stop trading because open orders. Please this is important thing fro smooth function of the bot and and especially ROLLBACK unfinished order including fees.


Now i can't edit any bot with this error. [i replaced price numbers with x]

Something went wrong. Exception message: {"success":1,"return":{"funds":{"usd":x.02079556,"btc":x.02333462,"ltc":x.47533599,"nmc":0,"rur":0,"eur":0,"nvc":x.00000006,"trc":x.01439352,"ppc":x.96200002,"ftc":0,"xpm":0},"rights":{"info":1,"trade":1,"withdraw":0},"transaction_count":690,"open_orders":1,"server_time":1393745871}}

Your totally right, there must be a rollback. And there is one build inside the software of course. If a trade-bot signals a trade signal (buy or sell) then a order is placed. Once the order is placed the order stack will kick in and it will guard the order itself. In case the order does not get filled within 2 minutes the rollback will becomes active and it will cancel the order. If the trade signal still exists then a new order for a new prices will be send. Details how you can read/backtrack this process van be found here (https://www.haasbot.com/engine-orderstack/)

For the next update i am working on a dashboard view. On this view i embed a list that shows all the orders and there tracking information.

@Johnik:
I will have a look that that one. The dynamic high/low is working really nice at drops but the insurance should have blocked your trades.

[bx8389]

Today I discovered again a frozen bot with last update at feb 28 23:59:41 and no trades after: I think to be a "Best before 1 march 2014 syndrome" or another stability problem again.

If this is a plan to force people to switch to new bot i have to say: you win!! I will switch to another bot but not yours. Beg every month to have a working software is not tolerable after a substantial "donation" and any change/correction/upgrade on old STB

All the STB user who stayed at option 1 have gotten the fee upgrade. It listed in this topic for a few times now, its posted at the website and its even posted at the old website. But if you never read anything then you will not notice this.  

Yes I have read about a fee to upgrade. Thank you

Discovered later that is a "free" and not a fee upgrade: But will nice if software have a time limit get a warning in advance, About Reading: I assumed all information on this thread and web site is about "new" server software and not old one.
Regards

[subhead]

Tonight stop trading because open orders. Please this is important thing fro smooth function of the bot and and especially ROLLBACK unfinished order including fees.


Now i can't edit any bot with this error. [i replaced price numbers with x]

Something went wrong. Exception message: {"success":1,"return":{"funds":{"usd":x.02079556,"btc":x.02333462,"ltc":x.47533599,"nmc":0,"rur":0,"eur":0,"nvc":x.00000006,"trc":x.01439352,"ppc":x.96200002,"ftc":0,"xpm":0},"rights":{"info":1,"trade":1,"withdraw":0},"transaction_count":690,"open_orders":1,"server_time":1393745871}}

same problem here. restarting the bot doesnt solve the problem. so the bot is not working at all right now.

[xpumpa]

If there is rollback, why my unfinished order is still on exchange for hours

[g0re79]

Tonight stop trading because open orders. Please this is important thing fro smooth function of the bot and and especially ROLLBACK unfinished order including fees.


Now i can't edit any bot with this error. [i replaced price numbers with x]

Something went wrong. Exception message: {"success":1,"return":{"funds":{"usd":x.02079556,"btc":x.02333462,"ltc":x.47533599,"nmc":0,"rur":0,"eur":0,"nvc":x.00000006,"trc":x.01439352,"ppc":x.96200002,"ftc":0,"xpm":0},"rights":{"info":1,"trade":1,"withdraw":0},"transaction_count":690,"open_orders":1,"server_time":1393745871}}

same problem here. restarting the bot doesnt solve the problem. so the bot is not working at all right now.

Same here, switching to older (non web based) interface helped. Furthermore I found out that not only Cryptsy had issues, but there are also unfilled orders left on Cex.IO and BTC-e.. As this bot have huge potencial, until it fully works its useless. I probably switch to Gekko for BTC-e and Kraken and will make some extra simple bots just for trading purely on price change on alts by myself.

[MasterMark-Si]

HI
first time here, so dont panic  

have some questions, but not about program working, because i think it's working just fine right now (only that in last update it erase all indicators).

first we should discuss more about your data collection, and how are they collected. i want to know on what bases are values collected; if I understand correct, bot is working on 1 minute and this is interval on which it send signal for buy or sell, but are the values for btc collected every second and from every second is calculated average value, or it's just value after every minute?
and how this effect on intervals of indicator for 10 or 15 minute? 1 value every 10/15 minute?

and about your discussion with g0re79 about different graphs in your bot and bitcoinwisdom etc.; I dont think that you have the point here, those sites are much better in tracking history than this bot (and this is in this downtrend very important!), and if all those sites show different values for average value in some intervals, than i think that your way is not so uniqe and different, but simply wrong. because as i can see, your bot collects maybe extreme values, and other sites want to show average to get smooth lines, which they should be. and that's why RSI & MACD are going crazy in this bot - for extrems, and in othes sites they are god. you will say get longer time; it's true, but not so long anyway. PPO is with delay, MA even worse, and ppl will lose their money because of this (they allready are because trend is down and settings are for this purpose wrong...)

second question: signals for buy / sell ? in all indicators are 100% = sell and 0% = buy?

third question: intervals of indicators...
RSI & co it's ok: over / under, but what about MA & co? normaly when the cross the line, but what is when they are set for 10 minutes? is bot selling interval for buy/sell for 10 minutes? if I combine this with fast RSI, in those 10 minutes he will wait for RSI to give signal and it will produce signal in first minute or in last minute; depends on both indicators?
or when they are crossing the line, this means that there is no signal (0%->100% & 100%->0%) and in this time (how long) there will be no trade?

4: I want to know exactly what box of ''use buy/sell signal'' means? it means that this indicator will be consider only in buying or selling activity?
this is important, because i think that we should have 2 different strategy for time when btc is going upo and when btc is going down. and with ticking those boxes this could be possible; one MACD for uptrends when it will be only for producing selling signals (and wont be consider for buying) and one MACD for down...
and in this point I would like to know how to set up with this setting indicator ''procent price change''. I want that it will look just for that I can set how many % the price will go up when the bot will sell the coins, and I dont care how much it will drop/raise for next buy? is this with ticking only ''use sell signal'' and leaving box for ''use buy signal'' empty?

5: it's better to start server in admin rights? because in user it wont update...

6: showing history... this is useless. it should be at least 1 day; 2 days optimum (now i leave bot working (not active) and print and analyze indicators for 1 day) 1 week would be ideal, but with larger scale... those 30 minutes are big joke...

7: in insurances and indicators are both price change, are their function different?

8: autotune i wont even comment...

thx, hope you can answer.
sincerely
mark

[Bitcoin Biff]

I'm really having my reservations about this bot. It seems to have so many problems - I wonder if it will ever be usable.
Just tried adding an api key from cryptsy and the all I get is "Something went wrong. Exception message:". Now it does this for any api update page. This isn't good.

[Bitcoin Biff]

0.9.8.1
i try added crpytsy API key, and get me  "Something went wrong. Exception message: "
Now i cannot set any API for btce, cex.io, everything is blocked by this message. Also Tradebot edit did not work.

So some Cryptsy API issue on Cryptsy side, but problem is that crpytsy problem block whole tradeserver others apis.

Code:

2014-01-03 09:54:28.740	|DEBUG|	File request: http://localhost:8090/setup_btce.html
2014-01-03 09:54:31.410	|ERROR|	
2014-01-03 09:54:31.420	|DEBUG|	System.Exception ---> System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error.
		   at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse()
		   at Cryptsy.CryptsyAPI.CryptsyQuery(Boolean authenticate, Dictionary`2 args)
		   at Cryptsy.CryptsyAPI.GetBalance()
		   at TradeServer.Trading.Engine.ExchangePlatforms.ExchangePlatformCryptsy.UpdateWallet(Wallet wallet)
		   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
		   at TradeServer.Trading.Engine.ExchangePlatforms.ExchangePlatformCryptsy.IsConnected()
		   at TradeServer.WebServer.Controller.WebInterfaceController.ParseIfAreas(String result)
		   at TradeServer.WebServer.Controller.WebInterfaceController.ParseAll(String result, Dictionary`2 parameters)
		   at TradeServer.WebServer.Controller.WebInterfaceController.HandleWebRequest(String filename, Dictionary`2 parameters)
		   at HaasonlineTradeServer.Controller.MainApplication.WebserverHandleArguments(HttpListenerRequest request)

I have this exact problem - on a brand new install of the software. Now nothing works. Also the interface doesn't work on Internet Explorer, which has the largest market share of web browsers. There is also no settings for security / authentication on the web interface, which I would have thought would be an obvious necessity. I kinda wish I'd kept my bitcoins for another bot.

[murt9000]

if I understand correct, bot is working on 1 minute and this is interval on which it send signal for buy or sell, but are the values for btc collected every second and from every second is calculated average value, or it's just value after every minute?
and how this effect on intervals of indicator for 10 or 15 minute? 1 value every 10/15 minute?

and about your discussion with g0re79 about different graphs in your bot and bitcoinwisdom etc.; I dont think that you have the point here, those sites are much better in tracking history than this bot (and this is in this downtrend very important!), and if all those sites show different values for average value in some intervals, than i think that your way is not so uniqe and different, but simply wrong. because as i can see, your bot collects maybe extreme values, and other sites want to show average to get smooth lines, which they should be. and that's why RSI & MACD are going crazy in this bot - for extrems, and in othes sites they are god. you will say get longer time; it's true, but not so long anyway. PPO is with delay, MA even worse, and ppl will lose their money because of this (they allready are because trend is down and settings are for this purpose wrong...)

Hi Stephan, I have been silently following this thread for a long time. It's clear that you are putting an awful lot of time and effort into the development of this bot and I appreciate that and believe it has great potential, but as many people have commented, it is not worth the asking price yet because there are still some fundemental issues that drastically reduce profitability.

I really think MasterMark-Si has hit the nail on the head with two of his points. I do think the bot's charts are not averaging values correctly and maybe that is related to the frequency of price updates. And I have also noticed the delay in the MACD, this is pretty bad, it often means that the opportunity for profitability is long gone by the time the crossover signal happens. I know that there will always be a lag with MACD, I understand that this is how it works. What I am saying is if you compare your MACD with Bitcoin Wisdom's MACD for the same pair and the same parameters. Bitcoin Wisdom will display the crossover earlier whereas the bot will be consistently be later and the opportunity for profit will often be gone by then.

I hope you could look into these issues. You've done some good stuff with the last update but a few people have asked to stop adding new features now and go back to the fundementals, there is definitely work to be done there that could unleash the power of this bot, and we all desperately want to see that happen.

[papasmurph]

0.9.8.1
i try added crpytsy API key, and get me  "Something went wrong. Exception message: "
Now i cannot set any API for btce, cex.io, everything is blocked by this message. Also Tradebot edit did not work.

So some Cryptsy API issue on Cryptsy side, but problem is that crpytsy problem block whole tradeserver others apis.

Code:

2014-01-03 09:54:28.740	|DEBUG|	File request: http://localhost:8090/setup_btce.html
2014-01-03 09:54:31.410	|ERROR|	
2014-01-03 09:54:31.420	|DEBUG|	System.Exception ---> System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error.
		   at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse()
		   at Cryptsy.CryptsyAPI.CryptsyQuery(Boolean authenticate, Dictionary`2 args)
		   at Cryptsy.CryptsyAPI.GetBalance()
		   at TradeServer.Trading.Engine.ExchangePlatforms.ExchangePlatformCryptsy.UpdateWallet(Wallet wallet)
		   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
		   at TradeServer.Trading.Engine.ExchangePlatforms.ExchangePlatformCryptsy.IsConnected()
		   at TradeServer.WebServer.Controller.WebInterfaceController.ParseIfAreas(String result)
		   at TradeServer.WebServer.Controller.WebInterfaceController.ParseAll(String result, Dictionary`2 parameters)
		   at TradeServer.WebServer.Controller.WebInterfaceController.HandleWebRequest(String filename, Dictionary`2 parameters)
		   at HaasonlineTradeServer.Controller.MainApplication.WebserverHandleArguments(HttpListenerRequest request)

I have this exact problem - on a brand new install of the software. Now nothing works. Also the interface doesn't work on Internet Explorer, which has the largest market share of web browsers. There is also no settings for security / authentication on the web interface, which I would have thought would be an obvious necessity. I kinda wish I'd kept my bitcoins for another bot.

here the same. finally have my pc back up and then this crap.

@Stephan:  pls fix the issue asap.

we are dealing now with a maybe functional or not functional API/tradekeys for cryptsy, maybe functional or not functional STb software where no one can prove if it is the website or the software,  many new updates with mostly following problems.

currently I have the same error message and even emptying cache, restarting bot is returning the same problrm

[subhead]

if I understand correct, bot is working on 1 minute and this is interval on which it send signal for buy or sell, but are the values for btc collected every second and from every second is calculated average value, or it's just value after every minute?
and how this effect on intervals of indicator for 10 or 15 minute? 1 value every 10/15 minute?

and about your discussion with g0re79 about different graphs in your bot and bitcoinwisdom etc.; I dont think that you have the point here, those sites are much better in tracking history than this bot (and this is in this downtrend very important!), and if all those sites show different values for average value in some intervals, than i think that your way is not so uniqe and different, but simply wrong. because as i can see, your bot collects maybe extreme values, and other sites want to show average to get smooth lines, which they should be. and that's why RSI & MACD are going crazy in this bot - for extrems, and in othes sites they are god. you will say get longer time; it's true, but not so long anyway. PPO is with delay, MA even worse, and ppl will lose their money because of this (they allready are because trend is down and settings are for this purpose wrong...)

Hi Stephan, I have been silently following this thread for a long time. It's clear that you are putting an awful lot of time and effort into the development of this bot and I appreciate that and believe it has great potential, but as many people have commented, it is not worth the asking price yet because there are still some fundemental issues that drastically reduce profitability.

I really think MasterMark-Si has hit the nail on the head with two of his points. I do think the bot's charts are not averaging values correctly and maybe that is related to the frequency of price updates. And I have also noticed the delay in the MACD, this is pretty bad, it often means that the opportunity for profitability is long gone by the time the crossover signal happens. I know that there will always be a lag with MACD, I understand that this is how it works. What I am saying is if you compare your MACD with Bitcoin Wisdom's MACD for the same pair and the same parameters. Bitcoin Wisdom will display the crossover earlier whereas the bot will be consistently be later and the opportunity for profit will often be gone by then.

I hope you could look into these issues. You've done some good stuff with the last update but a few people have asked to stop adding new features now and go back to the fundementals, there is definitely work to be done there that could unleash the power of this bot, and we all desperately want to see that happen.

thats the main reason why i dont use this bot anymore.

[papasmurph]

I am getting this error message currently on all exchanges... wtf.  also the old version is doing the same issue.

[lovethebitcoin]

I've been using this bot for a while. I love it, love the idea, love the concept. Haven't made any money off it yet, but I'll get it in time.

With that said, I have had nothing but problems from the get go. I picked this up a while ago when it was the STB on the old interface. The evolution to the web interface is awesome. The features you have built in here make it one of a kind. I want to upgrade but I am not sure if I can justify it yet. I have easily spent about 30 hours messing with indicators, bench marking messing with alt coins and trying to generate the highest return (as everyone else has I'm sure).

With all the messing with and the recent dip. Back testing on 9.7.0 yielded profitable results. The interesting part of it is, depending on my coin position at the beginning of the benchmark it would change the trade log result difference of $3000 over 26 trades. If my coin position was at 'sold' I would hit ~+$1500, with 'bought' it would be ~-$1350. I would re-create and screen shot, but I have lost the ability to benchmark.

Since 0.9.7.0...
-I have not been able to connect to any exchanges, (API keys are correct and confirmed)
-Bot doesn't save any settings upon program/computer restart. (No bots setup)
-Indicators show buy and sell signals, but back test produces a straight line and performs a buy or sell (Depending on coin position) right at the end of test. This is with any single indicator.
-Indicator graphs change after a benchmark, clicking a back period of time fixes the graph and puts it back into 'scope' of the indicator. It also seems the graph displayed after benchmark is of a different indicator?

Since before then...
-Can't get the server to work from any other device on the network. I changed the IP settings to the local static IP, opened port on firewall.

I've installed the bot to a new location and still can't get anything. I have watched the log viewer to see if that helps me with any of my problems. Even with 'debug' on I have no messages. Server running on win 7, admin rights.

Is anyone else having any of these problems? Has anyone been making any good BTC with this yet?

[subhead]

so stephan whats up with you and your not working bot? any news on the last big issue?

[Stephan224]

so stephan whats up with you and your not working bot? any news on the last big issue?

I just released an beta of the next update to solve the recent reported issues  . At this moment i am awaiting the test results to return to see if its all solved now. I hope this will happen within the next 24-hours.

About all the recent (in depth) questions... i will answer them all soon. I was a little occupied to solve the issues first.

As soon as i got more news will come back here to share it as usual.