Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[meeh]

Finally, Anoncoin 0.8.5.6 is released!


The new client will warn people using clearnet connections. Clearnet is internet, unencrypted without the usage of I2P or Tor. For pool operators which should run their wallet on clearnet can disable this with the stfu=1 flag. People that don't have a anoncoin.conf file will get it written by a Wizard while starting Anoncoin. The Wizard will ask if you run I2P or Tor, if you run one or both, it can autoconfigure the client to use I2P, Tor or both.

New features/changes:

* Leveldb
* More return params in RPC getinfo
* Tracking of moneysupply in blockchain
* Coin Control
* Darknet setup Wizard
* Lower fees, minimum fee are now 0.002 ANC

Windows and OSX binaries are released here:

https://anoncoin.net/downloads/0.8.5.6/

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[hud]

it is not clear what to expect
wait a long time?
~/anoncoin/src$ anoncoind

Warning: Anoncoin is running on clearnet!

Failed to connect to SAM(111)
Created a brand new SAM session (DCCITJOX)
Failed to connect to SAM(111)
Created a new SAM session (DCCITJOX)  from another (DCCITJOX)
Closing SAM session (DCCITJOX) ...
Failed to connect to SAM(111)

I'm unsure what you want. You have started the daemon, which runs in background. If you're looking for a GUI, please look at the guide above (Anoncoin-QT section)

Excellent. exactly

[GigaCoin]

Finally, Anoncoin 0.8.5.6 is released!


The new client will warn people using clearnet connections. Clearnet is internet, unencrypted without the usage of I2P or Tor. For pool operators which should run their wallet on clearnet can disable this with the stfu=1 flag. People that don't have a anoncoin.conf file will get it written by a Wizard while starting Anoncoin. The Wizard will ask if you run I2P or Tor, if you run one or both, it can autoconfigure the client to use I2P, Tor or both.

New features/changes:

* Leveldb
* More return params in RPC getinfo
* Tracking of moneysupply in blockchain
* Coin Control
* Darknet setup Wizard
* Lower fees, minimum fee are now 0.002 ANC

Windows and OSX binaries are released here:

https://anoncoin.net/downloads/0.8.5.6/

atlast a working OSX client! thnx and Good job  

[gostrol]

Cool, am hoping to do an initial run in a month or so - my main issue is how do I go about creating a paper wallet for ANC? I'm not as technically minded as some unfortunately  

We're having a site with support for this, I will try make it finished soon! What I did was only printing privatekeys with coins sent to the addresses on a paper.

In fact http://jsaddr.anoncoin.net/ works already very good...

Also to import private key there is a tutorial here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B

Also the anoncoin-QT will hang after importprivkey, just close it, restart the program or CPU (on windows due to a lock on the folder) and run from command line in correct folder "anoncoin-qt -rescan" this way your balance of ANC on the imported key will be updated.

Awsome, post your address for a little reward Smiley

Hehe but I got helped by K1773R and others

anyway AHTF7G49ktEeo5Nh7t1EYupLDv7WZdTW6A thank you much appreciated

[meeh]

I forgot to mention the style feature!

You can also style your client with CSS. Put a CSS file inside your anoncoin config dir, like default.css, and then add style=default.css to load the stylesheet! Link to CSS reference is here: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/stylesheet.html

[meeh]

Hehe but I got helped by K1773R and others

anyway AHTF7G49ktEeo5Nh7t1EYupLDv7WZdTW6A thank you much appreciated

Still, you're the person who is willing to write a guide about it, that's a job itself, and we really need documentation! It would be awsome if you could post it on the offical forum as well. https://forum.anoncoin.net

[gostrol]

Is there a way to stop the alert windows 'Anoncoin is running on clearnet!' that open at start of anoncoin-QT 0.8.5.6 (i2p=1 in anoncoin.conf) under windows? Because for solo-mining when this open at restart of CPU it stop there waiting someone to hit OK button... hence I cannot start to solomine automatically anymore... maybe by putting something in anoncoin.conf or by using a command line argument?

Thank you!

[jonanon]

Cool, am hoping to do an initial run in a month or so - my main issue is how do I go about creating a paper wallet for ANC? I'm not as technically minded as some unfortunately 

We're having a site with support for this, I will try make it finished soon! What I did was only printing privatekeys with coins sent to the addresses on a paper.

Nice, shall look forward to it 

[jonanon]

Cool, am hoping to do an initial run in a month or so - my main issue is how do I go about creating a paper wallet for ANC? I'm not as technically minded as some unfortunately  

We're having a site with support for this, I will try make it finished soon! What I did was only printing privatekeys with coins sent to the addresses on a paper.

In fact http://jsaddr.anoncoin.net/ works already very good...

Also to import private key there is a tutorial here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B

Also the anoncoin-QT will hang after importprivkey, just close it, restart the program or CPU (on windows due to a lock on the folder) and run from command line in correct folder "anoncoin-qt -rescan" this way your balance of ANC on the imported key will be updated.

Awsome, post your address for a little reward Smiley

Hehe but I got helped by K1773R and others

anyway AHTF7G49ktEeo5Nh7t1EYupLDv7WZdTW6A thank you much appreciated

How would I do this:
'and run from command line in correct folder "anoncoin-qt -rescan" this way your balance of ANC on the imported key will be updated'
 

[BroTroxer]

Is there a way to stop the alert windows 'Anoncoin is running on clearnet!' that open at start of anoncoin-QT 0.8.5.6 (i2p=1 in anoncoin.conf) under windows? Because for solo-mining when this open at restart of CPU it stop there waiting someone to hit OK button... hence I cannot start to solomine automatically anymore... maybe by putting something in anoncoin.conf or by using a command line argument?

Thank you!

Add the line stfu=1 to your anoncoin.conf to silence it 

[gostrol]

Add the line stfu=1 to your anoncoin.conf to silence it 

Thank you it works great!

How would I do this:
'and run from command line in correct folder "anoncoin-qt -rescan" this way your balance of ANC on the imported key will be updated'
 

On windows you can edit the properties of the shortcut for anoncoin-QT, by default the target is ' "C:\Program Files (x86)\Anoncoin\anoncoin-qt.exe" ' and you shall replace this by ' "C:\Program Files (x86)\Anoncoin\anoncoin-qt.exe" -rescan '. Otherwise open explorer and go in above folder then hold shift and right click then choose 'open command window here'. At prompt type 'anoncoin-qt -rescan'.

Under linux you shall execute it in terminal by typing 'anoncoin-qt -rescan' too. 

[statdude]

Nice gains for Anoncoin today!

[godislove]

I just read this entire thread.   Is the only fundamental difference from BTC/LTC that ANC can use I2P?   Is I2P and coin mixing going to be implemented in such a way that it is easier to be anonymous than with other coins?   If an exchange is not using I2P does the client need to be in clearnet mode in order to transfer coins in and out?   Any clarification on what makes this coin more anonymous would be helpful in deciding if I should make it an alt coin investment.

[meeh]

I just read this entire thread.   Is the only fundamental difference from BTC/LTC that ANC can use I2P?   Is I2P and coin mixing going to be implemented in such a way that it is easier to be anonymous than with other coins?   If an exchange is not using I2P does the client need to be in clearnet mode in order to transfer coins in and out?   Any clarification on what makes this coin more anonymous would be helpful in deciding if I should make it an alt coin investment.

I doubt Bitcoin will implement I2P support, it's getting to known now, which means they move away from "darknet" and such, and into the wallets of regular people and not just special interested. The developers have other, bigger issues to solve. We however, focus on anonymity, and will continue working on that case as main focus. I2P is only the beginning.

Update on Zerocoin:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/wiki/Zerocoin-design-&-docs
https://pay.reddit.com/r/ZeroCoin/comments/1tplgt/please_help_us_implement_zerocoin/

[godislove]

Since zerocoin is switching to be an independent cryptocurrency, are you just going to use the part of the open source code that you need?  They are being really quiet about what they are working on and I wonder why they are keeping it closed-source for apparently 2 or 3 months.

Is the new zerocoin going to somehow hide sender and receiver without Tor or I2P?

Here are the only comments I've found (from matthew green's November 16 - 20 twitters)

"Now I can pay you a specific amount directly in ZC, without revealing the amount or our IDs. (To the public anyway.)"

"We designed a new version of Zerocoin that reduces proof sizes by 98% [now 240 bytes]  and allows for direct anonymous payments that hide payment amount."

"We're going to release it as an alt-coin. It will take a few months to get it to that point. Bitcoin can do what it wants."

"incorporated variable-value transactions, and added support for direct payments."

"Hide payment amount from anyone but the Payer/Payee is the goal. It's not anyone else's business."

"We use commitments with a 'coin value' inside of them."

"We don't use a shuffling process, though. It's much more like Zerocoin, except that we use zkSNARKs for efficiency."

"We have some techniques to solve this problem [i.e., all clients needing to record all coins, spent or not] as well, but mainly the improvement is using smaller ZK proofs (arguments)."

"Eran Tromer is one of our co-authors on the new Zerocoin paper"

Searching for  "eran tromer" and zkSNARKS, one finds an October 2013 paper that might be relevant, if you can follow the language and math:
http://tau.ac.il/~tromer/papers/csnark-20131007.pdf

[GigaCoin]

had to re-install the mac client and now it just not able to download the block, can't seem to sync to the network (clear net)



anyone else have this issue with the osx wallet ?

[GigaCoin]

I just read this entire thread.   Is the only fundamental difference from BTC/LTC that ANC can use I2P?   Is I2P and coin mixing going to be implemented in such a way that it is easier to be anonymous than with other coins?   If an exchange is not using I2P does the client need to be in clearnet mode in order to transfer coins in and out?   Any clarification on what makes this coin more anonymous would be helpful in deciding if I should make it an alt coin investment.

I doubt Bitcoin will implement I2P support, it's getting to known now, which means they move away from "darknet" and such, and into the wallets of regular people and not just special interested. The developers have other, bigger issues to solve. We however, focus on anonymity, and will continue working on that case as main focus. I2P is only the beginning.

Update on Zerocoin:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/wiki/Zerocoin-design-&-docs
https://pay.reddit.com/r/ZeroCoin/comments/1tplgt/please_help_us_implement_zerocoin/

Bitcoin foundation already rejected Zercoin, as they wish not to adapt any form of anonymity engine. I think anoncoin can serve as a way for Bitcoin holders to anonymize their Holdings if they wish to do so.

[theKnownUnknown]

Hi all,

I am new here, so first of all let me say thanks to all that work on anoncoin. I think there is an urgent need for a digital but also anonymous currency. This is the reason why I started mining anoncoins some weeks ago (Unfortunately not really much because difficulty is so high ).

But now I read the news that Zerocoin will be released as a standalone altcoin. That worries me. Isn't this a big issue for the anoncoin project. Would anoncoin be able to compete with a standalone Zerocoin? What unique selling point would remain to anoncoin?

I am looking forward to hear your thoughts about his.

[godislove]

Personally, I am afraid the people behind zerocoin are unbeatable and that zerocoin will therefore win the majority of anonymous day.  It appears zerocoin will become the leader for anonymous transactions that are legitimate in the eyes of the government (see above his crucial comment: "to the public anyway").   That would leave anoncoin for anarchist and illegal activities.  But it also means bitcoin could have a serious competitor for top spot.  Especially if zerocoin can find a way to release without letting early adopters or miners profit disgracefully, such as directing most of it to charity or wider adoption.  This will greatly improve the public's perception of zerocoin as not being "ponzi-like" or otherwise stink of a "something for nothing" profiteering.

[Trader Steve]

Since zerocoin is switching to be an independent cryptocurrency, are you just going to use the part of the open source code that you need?  They are being really quiet about what they are working on and I wonder why they are keeping it closed-source for apparently 2 or 3 months.

Is the new zerocoin going to somehow hide sender and receiver without Tor or I2P?

Here are the only comments I've found (from matthew green's November 16 - 20 twitters)

"Now I can pay you a specific amount directly in ZC, without revealing the amount or our IDs. (To the public anyway.)"

Re: "To the public anyway"

This doesn't make sense to me. Does this mean there is a back door?