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June 15, 2013, 07:29:26 PM
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Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.

Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, maybe like Debian it has built in handling for it.

I did yum search gnash and found it. so i installed it and restarted firefox but still that youtube page insisted i need a plugin that i do not have. looking more closely at the yum utput though there is a gnash-plugin... But youtube is being picky, it still insists I need an *Adobe* flash player.

According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gnash often cannot play sound because often sound in flash uses mp3, which is encumbered by patents.

The page did though show me that i should remove nspluginwrapper; presumably that is what keeps saying I need an adobe viewer.

Ok starting to see something, now some audio errors to deal with but looks like it might at least work for visuals and hopefully if people say anyt6hing worth hearing there will be transcripts to read.

It wants me to install gstreamer-ffmpeg but yum denies knowledge of any such package.

There don't actually seem to be any visuals either, apparently it is using some codec that also isn't available or isn't present or something, maybe the one that someone mentinoed earlier as not being available yet.

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June 15, 2013, 08:30:04 PM
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Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.

Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, maybe like Debian it has built in handling for it.

I did yum search gnash and found it. so i installed it and restarted firefox but still that youtube page insisted i need a plugin that i do not have. looking more closely at the yum utput though there is a gnash-plugin... But youtube is being picky, it still insists I need an *Adobe* flash player.

According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gnash often cannot play sound because often sound in flash uses mp3, which is encumbered by patents.

The page did though show me that i should remove nspluginwrapper; presumably that is what keeps saying I need an adobe viewer.

Ok starting to see something, now some audio errors to deal with but looks like it might at least work for visuals and hopefully if people say anyt6hing worth hearing there will be transcripts to read.

It wants me to install gstreamer-ffmpeg but yum denies knowledge of any such package.

There don't actually seem to be any visuals either, apparently it is using some codec that also isn't available or isn't present or something, maybe the one that someone mentinoed earlier as not being available yet.

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adobe flash player is no big risk if correctly done with apparmor Smiley
also running/installing flash on *nix is trivial...

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June 15, 2013, 08:33:15 PM
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Hmm? Flash works fine on Ubuntu... never had an issue in the past.

Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, maybe like Debian it has built in handling for it.

I did yum search gnash and found it. so i installed it and restarted firefox but still that youtube page insisted i need a plugin that i do not have. looking more closely at the yum utput though there is a gnash-plugin... But youtube is being picky, it still insists I need an *Adobe* flash player.

According to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash gnash often cannot play sound because often sound in flash uses mp3, which is encumbered by patents.

The page did though show me that i should remove nspluginwrapper; presumably that is what keeps saying I need an adobe viewer.

Ok starting to see something, now some audio errors to deal with but looks like it might at least work for visuals and hopefully if people say anyt6hing worth hearing there will be transcripts to read.

It wants me to install gstreamer-ffmpeg but yum denies knowledge of any such package.

There don't actually seem to be any visuals either, apparently it is using some codec that also isn't available or isn't present or something, maybe the one that someone mentinoed earlier as not being available yet.

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I'm not on Ubuntu right now but there's a Flash program on the program browser that works perfectly. I can't think of what the name is but I think it's classified as a "flash alternative."

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June 15, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
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I think the objection was not to gambling but to the Satoshi Dice spamming the blockchain with dust/crap/garbage used to signal wins and losses.

A normal gambling concept where the website tells you directly on the website that you lost instead of filling every user's disk with useless garbage "so and so lost at gambling!" messages seems reasonable.

To confirm, the bounty would be only for a normal gambling website, not for something like Satoshi Dice that bloats the block chain.

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I think the objection was not to gambling but to the Satoshi Dice spamming the blockchain with dust/crap/garbage used to signal wins and losses.

A normal gambling concept where the website tells you directly on the website that you lost instead of filling every user's disk with useless garbage "so and so lost at gambling!" messages seems reasonable.

To confirm, the bounty would be only for a normal gambling website, not for something like Satoshi Dice that bloats the block chain.


Wouldn't it be fine if it were like SatoshiDice but held the funds in a user account so you have to choose when to withdraw or something? That would solve the bloat.

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June 15, 2013, 11:01:41 PM
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Maybe Canadian youtube doesn't have the conversion to HTML5 in place yet or something?
What version of Firefox are you using? You may to enable HTML  video in YouTube by going to https://www.youtube.com/html5. Not all videos are converted and videos that the submitter have marked as requiring ads will still use flash. For the latter to work they're waiting for browsers to support the Media Source Extensions API. This is currently being worked on for Firefox.
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June 15, 2013, 11:18:10 PM
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Can anyone verify if I'm thinking/reading right? Is the coins per share payout for round 24 140,995 coins per share? That's what I saw on receiver_24.csv, just wonder if that's right. If I'm up for 30+ shares, does that mean I'm going to get 3M+ coins?

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June 16, 2013, 12:14:40 AM
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1 dvc buys more than a million right now nicceee
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June 16, 2013, 12:20:45 AM
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1 dvc buys more than a million right now nicceee

Do you mean one Bitcoin buys more than a million DevCoins?
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Looking at https://www.dokuwiki.org/mime it appears that : swf    application/x-shockwave-flash   and   mp3    audio/mpeg   and    ogg    audio/ogg    and   wav    audio/wav  may be embedded in Devtome pages through MIME configuration. Some one would have to confirm as I'm not familiar with MIME.

Regarding images there is a PHP config that can limit uploaded maximum file/image sizes. This would be desirable going forwards if mega sized images get uploaded.  https://www.dokuwiki.org/faq:uploadsize

At present it appears that images can not be deleted due to a missing toolbar. You can check this by going to http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=start&ns=wiki&tab_files=files&do=media&tab_details=view&image=fheenix%3Atest.jpg  and clicking on an image. I use this page as an example as if these images were deleted, no harm would be done. When you click on an image a new box shows that allows you metadata.

Looking at https://www.dokuwiki.org/media_manager#layout you can see a similar view in their example, but with the toolbar at the top right above each image. Note the trashcan icon. I would suggest this be enabled should some one post undesired images i.e. porn etc.



Since when is porn undesirable? :p

And yes, that needs to be fixed. I confirmed that there's no trashbin on my side either. An alternative for the time being could be using the "upload update" or whatever it is. Not sure how it works though.

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And yes, that needs to be fixed. I confirmed that there's no trashbin on my side either. An alternative for the time being could be using the "upload update" or whatever it is. Not sure how it works though.

I think 'upload update' overwrites your original image, assuming you use the same name. This would allow some one to update charts etc with new data without relinking images in articles. It's possible you could rename your image that you upload too - but I haven't tied that yet. So if you are uploading test.jpg, you can specify folder location and final name of image, so test.jpg could become graph.jpg. 

As long as it overwrites, it could be used as an alternative to remove improper images (just upload a blank one in its place). Of course it's better to allow direct deletion though.

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June 17, 2013, 02:18:11 AM
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I agree with you with all you have said, it is rather better to use open source licenses. I will never give my money to companies such as Adobe. At this moment, due to my experience and free time, I can't manage to work with an open source alternative. But this doesn't mean that the work I create will be propietary work.

It is the actual product I am concerned about. A movie that you need a proprietary viewer to view is not suitable, it has to be in a codex that is open source and that has open source viewers available to view it.

Even if any open source viewers can view it, the actual media itself, the codex, the file they tell the viewer to display, should be an open source codex/format/type.

People should not need to use flash to see the thing.

Also, re "Being open source does mean that its source code is available for everybody to view, edit and redistribute it. The fact that Adobe Flash is not open source does not mean that the works created with it can't be open source.", we support free open source, not all open source. Commercial, proprietary etc open source does not qualify. Free as in freedom - to re-use, base derivative works on, alter, re-arrange, re-purpose, distribute, redistribute (all these freedoms go with it to those it is distributed to) etc - not necessarily free as in beer.

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I'm not sure if this is still under discussion, but IMO it shouldn't matter what software is used to make the video. That'd be if I made a Devcoin logo in Photoshop (not free or open source), then saved it as a PNG image and uploaded it with a CC license. The logo itself is free and open. Similarly, I could write some open source code in Visual Studio, and the code would still be open source. Or I could write an article on Devtome using a proprietary keyboard on my proprietary laptop...

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June 17, 2013, 12:48:51 PM
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What happened with Devcoin Ventures?

It looks like I've missed updates, and they are not in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193054.msg2001211


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June 17, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
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What happened with Devcoin Ventures?

It looks like I've missed updates, and they are not in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193054.msg2001211



Looks like nobody has been on Devcoin Ventures in sometime. They probably abandoned, or had no more ideas.
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June 18, 2013, 01:50:35 AM
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Hi

Just to inform you I have added DevCoin to my escrow services and I can now perform trades between users. Whether you are buying items, digital services or wish to swap to other cryptocurrencies you can now.

I charge a rate of 3% for standard transactions but this can be lowered for exceptionally high amounts or volume discounts.

Please visit www.KoolioEscrow.com to carry a trade out!

Please note if you wish me to add a manual orderbook if your coin has no exchange presence this can be done, but rates would be 5% or a sizeable donation from devs in return for a lower % fee for all trades.

Please PM or contact me through my site as I may miss replies on forum threads....

Thanks

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June 18, 2013, 05:32:35 AM
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Hi

Just to inform you I have added DevCoin to my escrow services and I can now perform trades between users. Whether you are buying items, digital services or wish to swap to other cryptocurrencies you can now.

I charge a rate of 3% for standard transactions but this can be lowered for exceptionally high amounts or volume discounts.

Please visit www.KoolioEscrow.com to carry a trade out!

Please note if you wish me to add a manual orderbook if your coin has no exchange presence this can be done, but rates would be 5% or a sizeable donation from devs in return for a lower % fee for all trades.

Please PM or contact me through my site as I may miss replies on forum threads....

Thanks

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Will probably be adding your escrow site to the thread if Unthinking approves.
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June 18, 2013, 05:49:16 AM
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Hi

Just to inform you I have added DevCoin to my escrow services and I can now perform trades between users. Whether you are buying items, digital services or wish to swap to other cryptocurrencies you can now.

I charge a rate of 3% for standard transactions but this can be lowered for exceptionally high amounts or volume discounts.

Please visit www.KoolioEscrow.com to carry a trade out!

Please note if you wish me to add a manual orderbook if your coin has no exchange presence this can be done, but rates would be 5% or a sizeable donation from devs in return for a lower % fee for all trades.

Please PM or contact me through my site as I may miss replies on forum threads....

Thanks

Koolio

Will probably be adding your escrow site to the thread if Unthinking approves.
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Theres a couple of feedbacks on the site but bare in mind it is a new site so not many. I have other people I have done deals for with before... yes. I also mod on btc-e so you can consider me of fairly reasonable trust. My escrow service is also being integrated into the feathercoin marketplace very soon

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Just added it to the thread, and will be adding any other great business.

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P.S: Thanks for the Devcoin Escrow service. I think you're the first.
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June 18, 2013, 06:39:16 AM
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As I mentioned previously, I don't think that Devtome really helps to boost Devcoin market cap. But the general idea of revenue-generating wiki is sensible.

So I'm going to implement a "commercial wiki" for Devcoin.

It can work together with Devtome since there is no exclusivity requirement: you can post your material to Devtome and get Devtome bounty for words, then post it to a "commercial wiki" and get bounty for pageviews.

So, here's the idea:

  • there will be many separate and independent 'realms' which can compete with each other, or perhaps cater to different niches
  • to create a new realm you pay some amount of Devcoins
  • each realm has its own policies about what content should be added, quality standards, etc.
  • then you need to invite writers/editors, they need to pay some amount of Devcoins when they join, this prevents spam and Sybil attacks
  • now people can create wiki pages according to realm's policies. also people can improve presentation (custom CSS), do marketing etc.
  • when somebody edits an article he rates his contribution, e.g. 100% for a complete article, 1% for a small change etc.
  • ads are displayed on each page, via a-ads or other ad agency. Also we collect statistics about pageviews etc. So we can get some rough estiamate of page's relative popularity and revenue contribution.
  • proceedings from ad shows are paid to people who edited articles, proportional to their contributions
  • some part of revenue goes to people who contribute to realm in general, like CSS, marketing, etc. It is decided by vote.
  • of course, it is possible that somebody will try to cheat, to counter this it will be possible to punish this asshole via democratic vote among realm's members
  • also realm's members can vote on policies etc
  • finally if democracy doesn't work in this specific realm members who disagree can fork it (content is open source) and start their own realm

So the way I see it, people would create realms on specific topics, like bitcoin news, bitcoin mining info, fiction, etc.

What differentiates this "commercial wiki" from other venues:

  • democratically managed
  • open source, forkable
  • automatic monetization
  • proceedings spread among contributors in a fair fashion
  • helps devcoin as ad revenue will be converted into DVC before payouts

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