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July 20, 2013, 03:27:23 PM
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He offered up a bounty for someone to write a Namecoin-cloning tutorial.
thanks, the later posts on opensimulation/dvc made that a bit clearer.

Wiser - it did close, I think it's just until the final 25 receiver files are put together and agreed with amendments for a couple of writers:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg2726197#msg2726197
so in the meantime the script is pulling in round 25 and 26 as one total, and is increasing due to new articles, but round 25 will drop off.

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July 20, 2013, 06:24:55 PM
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Wiser - it did close, I think it's just until the final 25 receiver files are put together and agreed with amendments for a couple of writers:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg2726197#msg2726197
so in the meantime the script is pulling in round 25 and 26 as one total, and is increasing due to new articles, but round 25 will drop off.

Thanks for the explanation, Weisoq.  I had read the message you referred to but not seen the edit.  I have a couple follow up questions:

1.  How long will the document be showing the combined total for round 25 and 26 before round 25 drops off?  How long is typical for the closed round and the new round to be combined? 

2.  How typical is it to make adjustments after a round is closed?  I mainly want to know what to expect.  I had an earnings goal for round 25 which I thought I had reached (I was watching the progress of how shares were accumulating and making sure my writing kept pace so I could earn what my goal was).  Only when those 68 shares were added, that caused me to not make my goal.  This is not a complaint (I still did quite well), just a desire to know if this is something I should expect in future rounds.  Because if it is, then this next round I will simply plan to overshoot my goal so as to account for these adjustments.  Hope this makes sense, and thanks in advance for your patience with answering my questions Smiley

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July 21, 2013, 04:50:17 AM
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I am wondering why the number of receiver lines for round 25 keeps increasing.  The document now says 709 receiver lines, but I thought it had closed at 600 back when we hit the 97300 blocks.

Here is the file I am seeing:  http://d.evco.in/charity/receiver_summary.txt

that's a bug, I should manually adjust the script every round but haven't. round 25 is indeed ended. the file would be all right next morning.

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I am thinking why not we get an open source mmorpg and integrate real DVC payments, this will be interesting as the players will be earning real life money something like Second Life.

"Something like Second Life" is in work. I suggest to become familiar with http://opensimulator.org.

Any progress on the Howto for cloning Namecoin?

That is awesome! I'd love it if we could get a game together that works with DVC. That could definitely bring some value to the coins.


I like these idea's a lot.   Smiley
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July 21, 2013, 08:58:01 PM
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I am thinking why not we get an open source mmorpg and integrate real DVC payments, this will be interesting as the players will be earning real life money something like Second Life.

"Something like Second Life" is in work. I suggest to become familiar with http://opensimulator.org.

Any progress on the Howto for cloning Namecoin?

That is awesome! I'd love it if we could get a game together that works with DVC. That could definitely bring some value to the coins.


I like these idea's a lot.   Smiley
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Its not just a game, its a simulation, a platform for all kind of games.
The idea is to combine the open and decentralized platfom called hypergrid with the cryptochain concept.
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/

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July 22, 2013, 03:02:33 AM
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Wiser - it did close, I think it's just until the final 25 receiver files are put together and agreed with amendments for a couple of writers:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg2726197#msg2726197
so in the meantime the script is pulling in round 25 and 26 as one total, and is increasing due to new articles, but round 25 will drop off.

Thanks for the explanation, Weisoq.  I had read the message you referred to but not seen the edit.  I have a couple follow up questions:

1.  How long will the document be showing the combined total for round 25 and 26 before round 25 drops off?  How long is typical for the closed round and the new round to be combined? 

2.  How typical is it to make adjustments after a round is closed?  I mainly want to know what to expect.  I had an earnings goal for round 25 which I thought I had reached (I was watching the progress of how shares were accumulating and making sure my writing kept pace so I could earn what my goal was).  Only when those 68 shares were added, that caused me to not make my goal.  This is not a complaint (I still did quite well), just a desire to know if this is something I should expect in future rounds.  Because if it is, then this next round I will simply plan to overshoot my goal so as to account for these adjustments.  Hope this makes sense, and thanks in advance for your patience with answering my questions Smiley

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July 22, 2013, 03:03:06 AM
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I am thinking why not we get an open source mmorpg and integrate real DVC payments, this will be interesting as the players will be earning real life money something like Second Life.

"Something like Second Life" is in work. I suggest to become familiar with http://opensimulator.org.

Any progress on the Howto for cloning Namecoin?

That is awesome! I'd love it if we could get a game together that works with DVC. That could definitely bring some value to the coins.


I like these idea's a lot.   Smiley

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July 22, 2013, 06:24:35 AM
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I suggest redoubling the bounties which have not been awarded even in part. This would redouble the bounties for the forum, the Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas), the pool:
www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now

and Emfox's link faucet upgrade. Any objections?

There are no current objections, so the bounties have been redoubled. Forum email is now 24 shares plus 6 million devcoins, the Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas) is now 96 shares, and the pool is now 64 shares:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now

The Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas) bounty may be awarded soon:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105506.msg2477344#msg2477344

I suggest another forum bounty, for a Simple Machines Forum (SMF) which would also get use of the coinzen domain name. This would be for adding a field to moderated threads to add moderators, or ban people on the Original Poster's ignore list or a troll field. Also, moderation would be the default and the Original Poster would have to deselect the moderation checkbox to have an open forum. Right now with the Aegis account a few people can moderate the thread, but it would be more convenient if the Original Poster could simply add moderators, rather than have to log in as Aegis, then log in again as someone else to post. Also, being able to ban trolls would be easier than going through the thread and deleting troll posts manually.

This would be 24 shares plus 6 million devcoins for adding moderators. Also 24 shares plus 6 million for banning trolls. Any objections?
 

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July 22, 2013, 07:20:00 AM
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I am thinking why not we get an open source mmorpg and integrate real DVC payments, this will be interesting as the players will be earning real life money something like Second Life.

"Something like Second Life" is in work. I suggest to become familiar with http://opensimulator.org.

Any progress on the Howto for cloning Namecoin?

That is awesome! I'd love it if we could get a game together that works with DVC. That could definitely bring some value to the coins.


I like these idea's a lot.   Smiley
How to Hypergrid Between Virtual Worlds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvHGCUyF4uw
Its not just a game, its a simulation, a platform for all kind of games.
The idea is to combine the open and decentralized platfom called hypergrid with the cryptochain concept.
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/

I was trying to come up with new ideas and I came up with another as well: a F2P MMORPG where everything is paid for using DevCoins. Much like the games that are already out, but instead of using cash to buy tokens for the cash shop, you would use DevCoins to buy the tokens (or just flat out use DevCoins altogether).

This would boost the value of them by a TON. It's also a pretty big undertaking though.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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July 22, 2013, 07:51:58 PM
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I was trying to come up with new ideas and I came up with another as well: a F2P MMORPG where everything is paid for using DevCoins. Much like the games that are already out, but instead of using cash to buy tokens for the cash shop, you would use DevCoins to buy the tokens (or just flat out use DevCoins altogether).

This would boost the value of them by a TON. It's also a pretty big undertaking though.

Go read the game development forum sites to get background on the idea of creating a MMPRPG.

Every idiot who knows nothing suggests it, go read/study though like none of them bother to do.

What does F2P mean, by the way?

While you are on insanely impractical notions, maybe build an entire new operating system from scratch? It doesn't need all the music and images and crap that an MMORPG does so you can probably do that much much easier, and you can build coins right into the operating-system.

Maybe reading the thread would have been polite too, so you would have known that actually despite how inansely impractical it is to try to build an MMPRPG nonetheless people are already hard at work on many many many littie pieces that such a thing would need, so that in however many years it takes to get all those pieces done the idea of creating an MMORPG won't seem so insane because we will actually have all the pieces already by then.

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July 22, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
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Yeah!  There's a new devcoin information site made by THE GOAT MASTER!  Check it out here: http://devcoin.info.se/

Tell me what you think!  I hope you like it!  Grin

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Yeah!  There's a new devcoin information site made by THE GOAT MASTER!  Check it out here: http://devcoin.info.se/

Tell me what you think!  I hope you like it!  Grin

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July 22, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
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Yeah!  There's a new devcoin information site made by THE GOAT MASTER!  Check it out here: http://devcoin.info.se/

Tell me what you think!  I hope you like it!  Grin

Always times out while trying to load for me, =S

thats weird, sorry.  try the full url: http://devurl.site90.com/index.html
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July 23, 2013, 02:17:26 AM
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I was trying to come up with new ideas and I came up with another as well: a F2P MMORPG where everything is paid for using DevCoins. Much like the games that are already out, but instead of using cash to buy tokens for the cash shop, you would use DevCoins to buy the tokens (or just flat out use DevCoins altogether).

This would boost the value of them by a TON. It's also a pretty big undertaking though.

Go read the game development forum sites to get background on the idea of creating a MMPRPG.

Every idiot who knows nothing suggests it, go read/study though like none of them bother to do.

What does F2P mean, by the way?

While you are on insanely impractical notions, maybe build an entire new operating system from scratch? It doesn't need all the music and images and crap that an MMORPG does so you can probably do that much much easier, and you can build coins right into the operating-system.

Maybe reading the thread would have been polite too, so you would have known that actually despite how inansely impractical it is to try to build an MMPRPG nonetheless people are already hard at work on many many many littie pieces that such a thing would need, so that in however many years it takes to get all those pieces done the idea of creating an MMORPG won't seem so insane because we will actually have all the pieces already by then.

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I'm glad you know so much.  That is a very harsh post, considering what Ranlo shared was a brainstorm.  

If people here are serious about wanting Devcoin (or any cryptocoin) to go mainstream, I think it would accomplish way more to take the attitude here that no question or idea is a stupid one.  People are getting interested and getting involved with varying levels of prior knowledge and experience (and ignorance!), and are not going to feel welcome if they are treated like idiots just for mentioning something.  I personally welcome education so if I'm obviously ignorant about something, I welcome a polite and understandable explanation, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.  Those who know more, please do educate, but do so kindly.  Thank you.

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I was trying to come up with new ideas and I came up with another as well: a F2P MMORPG where everything is paid for using DevCoins. Much like the games that are already out, but instead of using cash to buy tokens for the cash shop, you would use DevCoins to buy the tokens (or just flat out use DevCoins altogether).

This would boost the value of them by a TON. It's also a pretty big undertaking though.

Go read the game development forum sites to get background on the idea of creating a MMPRPG.

Every idiot who knows nothing suggests it, go read/study though like none of them bother to do.

What does F2P mean, by the way?

While you are on insanely impractical notions, maybe build an entire new operating system from scratch? It doesn't need all the music and images and crap that an MMORPG does so you can probably do that much much easier, and you can build coins right into the operating-system.

Maybe reading the thread would have been polite too, so you would have known that actually despite how inansely impractical it is to try to build an MMPRPG nonetheless people are already hard at work on many many many littie pieces that such a thing would need, so that in however many years it takes to get all those pieces done the idea of creating an MMORPG won't seem so insane because we will actually have all the pieces already by then.

-MarkM-


I'm glad you know so much.  That is a very harsh post, considering what Ranlo shared was a brainstorm. 

If people here are serious about wanting Devcoin (of any cryptocoin) to go mainstream, I think it would accomplish way more to take the attitude here that no question or idea is a stupid one.  People are getting interested and getting involved with varying levels of prior knowledge and experience (and ignorance!), and are not going to feel welcome if they are treated like idiots just for mentioning something.  I personally welcome education so if I'm obviously ignorant about something, I welcome a polite and understandable explanation, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.  Those who know more, please do educate, but do so kindly.  Thank you.

What makes matters worse is he clearly didn't read my post... if he did he would have seen this part:

"This would boost the value of them by a TON. It's also a pretty big undertaking though."


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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July 23, 2013, 03:44:08 AM
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Well maybe we should somehow/somewhere make it clearer then how much of what is already being done all aims toward eventually having all the parts in hand to be able to hopefully all together act as a massively multiplayer game or entire collection of multiplayer games all integrated one way or another so that overall they all function as parts in a larger metagame.

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Well maybe we should somehow/somewhere make it clearer then how much of what is already being done all aims toward eventually having all the parts in hand to be able to hopefully all together act as a massively multiplayer game or entire collection of multiplayer games all integrated one way or another so that overall they all function as parts in a larger metagame.

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Or a go-to place for everything that people are doing for DevCoin in general. Reading through the thread I've seen tons of things people hint at but no real information on how you can get involved, what needs to be done for each project, the status of each project, etc. I'm sure a lot of us could help out with many of these projects if we knew what was needed and what's even going on.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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July 23, 2013, 04:04:12 AM
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Maybe devtome's front page could be re-arranged to make it easier for people who land on it to branch out from there to various different centres of focus or something?

Once upon a time just the recent new pages list was so full of game pages it was pretty hard to miss the fact that a whole lot of it was about games or a game and maybe even to catch on to the idea of a metagame in which any/all games could fit as things that could equally well be viewed/played as being inside the game as being outside it.

Even bitcoin itself is part of the game, having been developed by the hacker civilisation supposedly, who supposedly are who the Martians got the blockchain technology from to create their own currency, Martian BotCoins. Since DeVCoin is a relative latecomer, it has not yet chosen a nation/civilisation within the game to which it is to be attributed. Maybe it is more a grass roots thing various people in various civilisations use or maybe because the Hacker nation is considered mythical maybe it is what various wannabe-Hackers on various worlds came up with to finance their attempt at creating an actual Hacker Nation since the one the Martians refer to seems not to be particularly existent...

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I suggest redoubling the bounties which have not been awarded even in part. This would redouble the bounties for the forum, the Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas), the pool:
www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now

and Emfox's link faucet upgrade. Any objections?

There are no current objections, so the bounties have been redoubled. Forum email is now 24 shares plus 6 million devcoins, the Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas) is now 96 shares, and the pool is now 64 shares:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty_now

The Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas) bounty may be awarded soon:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105506.msg2477344#msg2477344

I suggest another forum bounty, which would also get use of the coinzen domain name. This would be for adding a field to moderated threads to add moderators or ban people. Right now with the Aegis account a few people can moderate the thread, but it would be more convenient if the Original Poster could simply add moderators, rather than have to log in as Aegis, then log in again as someone else to post. Also, being able to ban trolls would be easier than going through the thread and deleting troll posts manually.

This would be 24 shares plus 6 million devcoins for adding moderators. Also 24 shares plus 6 million for banning trolls. Any objections?
 

I fail to see how this differs from devcointalk.org I have groups for devtome writers and devtome admins and they can moderate the whole forum if I tick one box to allow them the rights to.  Ban users, remove posts moderate any post etc.  Unless you maen something different I would feel like the bounty is designed for a website you have in mind (coinzen) as opposed to being open to us all.

Or are you after the OP of one thread to be able to set a moderator on just the thread they start? not moderators site wide?? as I fail to see how this would help stop troll and spam on other threads as no moderators would be set, except the site wide moderators.

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Unless you maen something different I would feel like the bounty is designed for a website you have in mind (coinzen) as opposed to being open to us all.

It would be first on coinzen, but the code would be open source and any other forum could use it.

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Or are you after the OP of one thread to be able to set a moderator on just the thread they start? not moderators site wide??

Yes.

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as I fail to see how this would help stop troll and spam on other threads as no moderators would be set, except the site wide moderators.

It would stop the trolling quickly on that thread, even if the moderators are in general busy. Moderators get many complaints and little pay, so after a while they respond slowly or not at all. This way posters can keep a thread completely clean without having to wait for a moderator.

Also some trolls would give up on the site if they know that they'll be shut down quickly, which would lower the workload of the moderators, giving them more time to handle the site wide trolls.

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