ASICMINER Speculation Thread

[ThickAsThieves]

I guess every time a price rises there will be people that call it a bubble. And every time it declines, it is a bubble bursting. I guess some see millions of bubbles being blown and burst every week where most of us just see price fluctuations.

I tend to think it is just a way of trying to increase the importance of natural market fluctuations, and to make themselves feel clever because they have a particular insight that allows them to see these trends before anyone else does. Perhaps not. But If they are to be believed, AsicMiner and BTC must have more bubbles than the head of a poorly-poured draft beer.

Would you consider all of AM's price movements 'natural market fluctuations'? You're correct that everything isn't a bubble, but they do exist - the 1999 'tech bubble' and the recent 'US home mortgage industry bubble' of the mid 2000s really were bubbles and really did burst.

Correct, and in that sense, AM has never crashed, nor popped. Yet, people use bubble talk every day for many bitcoin stocks.

[twentyseventy]

I guess every time a price rises there will be people that call it a bubble. And every time it declines, it is a bubble bursting. I guess some see millions of bubbles being blown and burst every week where most of us just see price fluctuations.

I tend to think it is just a way of trying to increase the importance of natural market fluctuations, and to make themselves feel clever because they have a particular insight that allows them to see these trends before anyone else does. Perhaps not. But If they are to be believed, AsicMiner and BTC must have more bubbles than the head of a poorly-poured draft beer.

Would you consider all of AM's price movements 'natural market fluctuations'? You're correct that everything isn't a bubble, but they do exist - the 1999 'tech bubble' and the recent 'US home mortgage industry bubble' of the mid 2000s really were bubbles and really did burst.

Correct, and in that sense, AM has never crashed, nor popped. Yet, people use bubble talk every day for many bitcoin stocks.

Very true, TAT. Rival, I was simply providing some speculation for the speculation thread; I don't have hard numbers to back these predictions up, they're just a guess. I've made some good money so far from investing and speculation, so I do feel clever 

[vlaoou321]

ASICMINER 7 end of the month than per 4.9/BTC.
By the end of 2013 will exceed 30BTC per share.
They have a series of strict actuarial their excellent reputation in the mining industry

[velacreations]

I think I am going to just start posting random shit like the trolls:

sparkling rainbow AM has it's won +1 excellent service, fast shipping grilled cat dog parks moon! <<<<~o_0

[Taxidermista]

ASICMINER 7 end of the month than per 4.9/BTC.
By the end of 2013 will exceed 30BTC per share.
They have a series of strict actuarial their excellent reputation in the mining industry

If your english is even worse than mine please use the fucking google translator. Thank you!

[binaryFate]

I think I am going to just start posting random shit like the trolls:

sparkling rainbow AM has it's won +1 excellent service, fast shipping grilled cat dog parks moon! <<<<~o_0

good day, me and my team loved your ironic post about troll saying bullshits. Jim and I agreed that there is no reason one cannot do it too...bf

[vlaoou321]

ASICMINER 7 end of the month than per 4.9/BTC.
By the end of 2013 will exceed 30BTC per share.
They have a series of strict actuarial their excellent reputation in the mining industry

If your english is even worse than mine please use the fucking google translator. Thank you!

This fucking Google Translate

[TsuyokuNaritai]

I think I am going to just start posting random shit like the trolls:

sparkling rainbow AM has it's won +1 excellent service, fast shipping grilled cat dog parks moon! <<<<~o_0

You're not even trying...

sparkeling ranebow AM haz its' wun +1 exelent servise ,phast shiping ,griled kat dogg parcs mun! ..o_0

[keeron]

上午HAZ sparkeling ranebow其“青云+1 EXELENT SERVISE，将Phast石坪，griled吉狗狗PARCS门！ o_0有..

(Google translate of the above message to Chinese)

[freedomno1]

上午HAZ sparkeling ranebow其“青云+1 EXELENT SERVISE，将Phast石坪，griled吉狗狗PARCS门！ o_0有..

(Google translate of the above message to Chinese)

K16s can't be produced next week as the Avalon chips haven't yet been delivered.

Ha-ha nice and your right I only said next week for the really really really really really X 9001 rough builds by BKK ha-ha those will take more than a week but got to mess with my prediction XD.

That said they are hashing at least the beta's are full of bugs interference and what not but hey at least its working

The 1 week was for those Chinese speculating companies waiting for a Final to start building the units even if they are still bugged as a rush to market lol if they can get chips or Macgyver it

Not AM btw  

[freedomno1]

In other competitor news

THIS IS THE OTHER AM

AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s

SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine".  The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes  it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™

The Fast-Hash-One is available at:

http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

[TheFuneral]

I find it hard to take a company seriously when they have a DVD-rom attached to their miners.

[keeron]

WOW... this is AWESOME... "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine" ready to order now.....

oh wait... "Pre" order.

<---- Goes back to the ASICMINER USB erupters IN-HAND and continues mining with it

In other competitor news

THIS IS THE OTHER AM

AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s

SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine".  The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes  it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™

The Fast-Hash-One is available at:

http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

[PeterB]

In other competitor news

THIS IS THE OTHER AM

AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s

SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine".  The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes  it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™

The Fast-Hash-One is available at:

http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

I loved the two disclaimers at the bottom of their page:

"All Fast-Hash images are prototypes, final designs may be different.
All Specification Subject To Changes."

I am guessing no third party has mined with these machines?  Is this BFL part deux or a genuine disruptor?  Truly curious--don't know much about them.

[Jutarul]

In other competitor news

THIS IS THE OTHER AM

AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s

SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine".  The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes  it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™

The Fast-Hash-One is available at:

http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?

The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).

Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.

[BitAddict]

In other competitor news

THIS IS THE OTHER AM

AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s

SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine".  The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes  it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™

The Fast-Hash-One is available at:

http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

[chriswilmer]

I find it hard to take a company seriously when they have a DVD-rom attached to their miners.

All their pictures are stolen, it's very easy to find them with reverse image search.
They even stole pictures of Avalon units.

BFL delivers one year late, but I'm pretty sure those guys will never deliver.

Link? I'm not very reverse-image search saavy.

[freedomno1]

I find it hard to take a company seriously when they have a DVD-rom attached to their miners.

All their pictures are stolen, it's very easy to find them with reverse image search.
They even stole pictures of Avalon units.

BFL delivers one year late, but I'm pretty sure those guys will never deliver.

Link? I'm not very reverse-image search saavy.

http://www.tineye.com/
http://www.virtualminingcorp.com/example/slider2.jpg
http://www.tineye.com/search/f7df7e7201e9048d934cb6cdd91ed9c348c18952/
0 Results
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/img/p/3/2/32-large_default.jpg
http://www.tineye.com/search/00ae5d9ad6e27a4cf058af584d7f5a93a9327310/
0 Results
1 Result
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_category=8&controller=category
http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/img/p/4/0/40-large_default.jpg
http://www.tineye.com/search/de456ad8dd44dd047d4d59fc7e5c6922f9e32113/
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-14334141-circuit-board.php

Dunno maybe i'm doing it wrong
Sorry for the url wall
One is the link in tineye using image search one is the image and on last one with a result url of page on site and link to result along with image and search in tineye

(tinyeye is a spelling error hehe)

[CMMPro]

Use Google Images.
Can't paste the links, they're too big.
First one is random Chenbro case, second one is Avalon.

^+1

http://www.google.com/imghp

Then paste in the url of the picture you want to search for.

[velacreations]

I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?

but that means they actually have to deliver something!  actually delivering your product hurts the bottom line, guys!