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August 07, 2013, 04:17:44 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
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August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF!
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chriswilmer
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August 07, 2013, 04:25:49 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. |
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velacreations (OP)
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August 07, 2013, 04:30:51 PM |
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Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor.
The question shouldn't be "is that a reasonable price" as much as it should be "where is the hardware coming from?" and "what is ROI for these plans?" and just for the record, no one uses the USBs as a benchmark for cost efficient mining that scales. |
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chriswilmer
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August 07, 2013, 04:34:58 PM |
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Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor.
The question shouldn't be "is that a reasonable price" as much as it should be "where is the hardware coming from?" and "what is ROI for these plans?" and just for the record, no one uses the USBs as a benchmark for cost efficient mining that scales. Oh I completely agree on both of your points. I just didn't understand why $65K per TH/s was "obviously" unreasonable as the previous poster seemed to imply. |
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chriswilmer
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August 07, 2013, 04:36:32 PM |
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DIVIDEND PREDICTION
.023 btc/share
I predict you are right! |
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August 07, 2013, 04:36:44 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. You know what? You're right! & it's in line with Bitfury's pricing too (IF it ships, like, NOW, not August 30). I guess I was expecting "el cheapo" miners and was surprised I would have to fork 65K 350K minimum!  |
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Taxidermista
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August 07, 2013, 04:41:39 PM |
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srsly 65K per TH? WTF!
You can try to write in english next time, if you don't mind. |
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chriswilmer
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August 07, 2013, 04:44:24 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. You know what? You're right! & it's in line with Bitfury's pricing too (IF it ships, like, NOW, not August 30). I guess I was expecting "el cheapo" miners and was surprised I would have to fork 65K 350K minimum! Right. If you could order one from them today, and it shipped almost immediately, it would probably be an OK deal. Given that's not the case, I would say it's a bit pricey. (I'm not a miner though, so everything I say is pretty irrelevant) |
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Mabsark
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August 07, 2013, 04:45:16 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. AM devices have always been massively overpriced. Try doing the comparison with KnC Jupiters. KnC Jupiter 400 Gh/s 6,995 USD Available September 1 year hosting cost: 3,960 USD 27,387.5 USD per Th/s |
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Still wild and free
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August 07, 2013, 04:47:48 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. AM devices have always been massively overpriced. Try doing the comparison with KnC Jupiters. KnC Jupiter 400 Gh/s 6,995 USD Available September 1 year hosting cost: 3,960 USD 27,387.5 USD per Th/s Wait to see the price of AM hardware in September then. Doesn't make sense to compare using different times. |
Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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Mabsark
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August 07, 2013, 05:12:33 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. AM devices have always been massively overpriced. Try doing the comparison with KnC Jupiters. KnC Jupiter 400 Gh/s 6,995 USD Available September 1 year hosting cost: 3,960 USD 27,387.5 USD per Th/s Wait to see the price of AM hardware in September then. Doesn't make sense to compare using different times. I'd expect it to be price competitive with hardware that it's time competitive with. I've said many times here that AM's pricing is due to them basically currently having a monopoly on off the shelf devices. The point I was making is that it is expensive compared to upcoming devices. That's because they will be using those upcoming devices and simply adding a bit extra to the price to make a profit. |
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August 07, 2013, 05:21:51 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. AM devices have always been massively overpriced. Try doing the comparison with KnC Jupiters. KnC Jupiter 400 Gh/s 6,995 USD Available September 1 year hosting cost: 3,960 USD 27,387.5 USD per Th/s How many have they shipped? |
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velacreations (OP)
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August 07, 2013, 05:31:42 PM |
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Dividend is 0.02457145, or at 3.8, or 33.6% APR
I expect the share price to rise towards 4.25 on a div like this.
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velacreations (OP)
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August 07, 2013, 05:36:21 PM |
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I'd expect it to be price competitive with hardware that it's time competitive with. I've said many times here that AM's pricing is due to them basically currently having a monopoly on off the shelf devices.
The point I was making is that it is expensive compared to upcoming devices. That's because they will be using those upcoming devices and simply adding a bit extra to the price to make a profit.
provided that they actually deliver on time... |
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Mabsark
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August 07, 2013, 05:40:25 PM |
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www.alydian.coAlydian’s turnkey Bitcoin mining solutions can be deployed in our datacenter or customer datacenters.
Included:
- One year of hosting
- All energy costs
- All maintenance costs
August Availability:
- 5TH/s: $350k
- 10TH/s: $650k
srsly 65K per TH? WTF! Isn't that kind of reasonable? My back of the envelope calculation is that it's ~5-10 times more cost efficient ($'s per hash per second) than a current USB ASICMiner block eruptor. AM devices have always been massively overpriced. Try doing the comparison with KnC Jupiters. KnC Jupiter 400 Gh/s 6,995 USD Available September 1 year hosting cost: 3,960 USD 27,387.5 USD per Th/s How many have they shipped? How much hashing power has Alydian brought online? |
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Mabsark
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August 07, 2013, 05:45:29 PM |
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I'd expect it to be price competitive with hardware that it's time competitive with. I've said many times here that AM's pricing is due to them basically currently having a monopoly on off the shelf devices.
The point I was making is that it is expensive compared to upcoming devices. That's because they will be using those upcoming devices and simply adding a bit extra to the price to make a profit.
provided that they actually deliver on time... Your comment makes no sense. I'm saying AM will be price competitive with anyone who is actually shipping off the shelf. The reason AM's devices are overpriced is because they are basically the only company currently shipping off the shelf. I though that was pretty clear. |
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velacreations (OP)
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August 07, 2013, 05:49:00 PM |
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I'd expect it to be price competitive with hardware that it's time competitive with. I've said many times here that AM's pricing is due to them basically currently having a monopoly on off the shelf devices.
The point I was making is that it is expensive compared to upcoming devices. That's because they will be using those upcoming devices and simply adding a bit extra to the price to make a profit.
provided that they actually deliver on time... Your comment makes no sense. I'm saying AM will be price competitive with anyone who is actually shipping off the shelf. The reason AM's devices are overpriced is because they are basically the only company currently shipping off the shelf. I though that was pretty clear. I guess I should have quoted just your last line. You are saying Alydian is expensive compared to upcoming devices, but that statement is only true if upcoming devices actually deliver. If they don't deliver, then the point is moot. Basically, same ol' story people have been talking about for months. Promises are cheap, delivery costs more. |
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Mabsark
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August 07, 2013, 05:51:56 PM |
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I'd expect it to be price competitive with hardware that it's time competitive with. I've said many times here that AM's pricing is due to them basically currently having a monopoly on off the shelf devices.
The point I was making is that it is expensive compared to upcoming devices. That's because they will be using those upcoming devices and simply adding a bit extra to the price to make a profit.
provided that they actually deliver on time... Your comment makes no sense. I'm saying AM will be price competitive with anyone who is actually shipping off the shelf. The reason AM's devices are overpriced is because they are basically the only company currently shipping off the shelf. I though that was pretty clear. I guess I should have quoted just your last line. You are saying Alydian is expensive compared to upcoming devices, but that statement is only true if upcoming devices actually deliver. If they don't deliver, then the point is moot. Basically, same ol' story people have been talking about for months. Promises are cheap, delivery costs more. The same is also true of Alydian. Why assume that they will deliver but nobody else will? |
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velacreations (OP)
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August 07, 2013, 05:58:20 PM |
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I guess I should have quoted just your last line. You are saying Alydian is expensive compared to upcoming devices, but that statement is only true if upcoming devices actually deliver. If they don't deliver, then the point is moot.
Basically, same ol' story people have been talking about for months. Promises are cheap, delivery costs more.
The same is also true of Alydian. Why assume that they will deliver but nobody else will? I don't assume they deliver, and I assume they are buying hardware from upcoming providers. But, that price is only expensive if there is a surplus of hardware on the market and some options to choose from. That remains to be seen. The Alydian price is not bad, if it's your only choice. |
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