ASICMINER Speculation Thread

[empoweoqwj]

ASICMINER 7 end of the month than per 4.9/BTC.
By the end of 2013 will exceed 30BTC per share.
They have a series of strict actuarial their excellent reputation in the mining industry

If your english is even worse than mine please use the fucking google translator. Thank you!

lol. I am suspecting he *did* use Google Translator 

GT is a "tool" in so many ways ...

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[empoweoqwj]

Oh God, not AM again. Ken couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery let alone run a mining network. He's out of his depth. The IPO was a complete and utter shambles.

[BlackLilac Jordan]

In other competitor news

THIS IS THE OTHER AM

AM Launches The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine At 24.576 TH/s

SPRINGFIELD, MO, - July 16, 2013 - Active Mining (AM) and Virtual Mining Corporation (VMC) are announcing today the launch of the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Machine".  The Fast-Hash-One configured with 6 expansion cases and 96-256 GH/s bitcoin hashing cards makes  it the Worlds fastest bitcoin mining machines hands-down. The machines use the "World's Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip" the Fast-Hash-One 28nm 16 GH/s chip. The Fast-Hash-One machines starts at 256 GH/s with a retail price of $3,999 or $15.62 per GH/s also making it the price leader in the market place. The Fast-Hash-One series of bitcoin mining machines are "The Gold Standard Of Bitcoin Mining Machines"™

The Fast-Hash-One is available at:

http://www.virtualminingcorp.com

I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?

The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).

Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.

The fact that the operator is outbidding HIMSELF by BTC5 for ads to sell more pre-orders should not induce confidence in those who have put faith in that operation.

[freedomno1]

Ken couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery let alone run a mining network. He's out of his depth. The IPO was a complete and utter shambles.

Considering his intention is to fake, twist, manipulate & scam people out of lots of BTC, he's been pretty successful so far.

Well assuming bad investor logic I should have just bought everything I could get at 0.012 and scalped all of it back at market price  

And used google images roger

[Lohoris]

I don't understand the strategy of various companies right now to provide pre-orders for products deliverable in 4 months at huge discounts when compared to CURRENT difficulty. Why don't they just wait until they have a product to sell and sell it at premium prices?

The uncertainty the miners have to go through when placing such an order is mind staggering. I cannot escape the conclusion that either these offers are of the same kind as from butterfly labs (dishonest, offloading delay risk) or their pricing is such, that they expect more return on their product when asking for the money now (dishonest, charging too high).

Of course there is also the slight chance that they haven't figured out proper pricing yet. Buyer beware.

+1

they are either dishonest or incompetent, I see no other explanation...

[binaryFate]

Do we know if the pre-order sales on the chinese distributor website will be included in today's dividends already?

[SOSLOVE868]

*Since* this is the speculation thread...

Share price has been stagnant/steady in the 4.1x to 4.3 range for the past week or so, I expect the price to rise sharply when the big hardware dividends come in this week or next week.

Prepare to sell around 5.25 to 5.5, the price will soon be back to ~4.8/4.9 after the initial buying wave dies down.

WOW...that is almost impossible ,I think people are more rational now other than essay to get crazy as they used to.

What's impossible? The rise or the come back to 4.8?

Nothing indicates to me that 'people are more rational now' than they were two weeks ago; the bubble just popped (and yes, there can be multiple bubbles and pops).

The recent BASIC-MINING skyrocket and fall, the fact that TAT.VM only now just broke .004 (besides the dive a few weeks ago), and the fact that BFMINES is 1/3 sold tell me that people are just as crazy as they used to be.

People are crazy ,especially when you look at AMC, a company that does not provides any evidence of its physical product ,but get 5 times increase of its share's price...This just amazed, I do not invest even my singe BTC into this company ,The reason is simple ,they use fake picture to demonstrating as their product..I think this just a simple  evidence of dishonest....

I think for the share price of ASICMINER is only determine by its P/E ratio, no matter what the price is ,if P/E ratio stay 20% per year, no reason to call it a bubble..but if P/E ratio below 20% , then the market will possibly adjusting the share price( as decrease its share price).

[tinus42]

People are crazy ,especially when you look at AMC, a company that does not provides any evidence of its physical product

When ASICMINER launched their IPO they only had computer models of their chip design to show as can be seen from this archived version of the official AM thread:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130305000147/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0

Investing in IPO's does require having some faith (or insider knowledge).

[BitAddict]

*Since* this is the speculation thread...

Share price has been stagnant/steady in the 4.1x to 4.3 range for the past week or so, I expect the price to rise sharply when the big hardware dividends come in this week or next week.

Prepare to sell around 5.25 to 5.5, the price will soon be back to ~4.8/4.9 after the initial buying wave dies down.

WOW...that is almost impossible ,I think people are more rational now other than essay to get crazy as they used to.

What's impossible? The rise or the come back to 4.8?

Nothing indicates to me that 'people are more rational now' than they were two weeks ago; the bubble just popped (and yes, there can be multiple bubbles and pops).

The recent BASIC-MINING skyrocket and fall, the fact that TAT.VM only now just broke .004 (besides the dive a few weeks ago), and the fact that BFMINES is 1/3 sold tell me that people are just as crazy as they used to be.

People are crazy ,especially when you look at AMC, a company that does not provides any evidence of its physical product ,but get 5 times increase of its share's price...This just amazed, I do not invest even my singe BTC into this company ,The reason is simple ,they use fake picture to demonstrating as their product..I think this just a simple  evidence of dishonest....

I think for the share price of ASICMINER is only determine by its P/E ratio, no matter what the price is ,if P/E ratio stay 20% per year, no reason to call it a bubble..but if P/E ratio below 20% , then the market will possibly adjusting the share price( as decrease its share price).

How many AMC shares exist?

In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL

[ffssixtynine]

In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL

That's part of the new IPO, not someone getting out.

[BitAddict]

In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL

That's part of the new IPO, not someone getting out.

ok, thanks! Didn't know.

Do you know how much AMC shares there are in total? Thanks!

[ThickAsThieves]

In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL

That's part of the new IPO, not someone getting out.

ok, thanks! Didn't know.

Do you know how much AMC shares there are in total? Thanks!

Take it to the AMC thread please, they run a questionable operation and I'd prefer that AM shareholders not presume it is a safe investment because it is being taken seriously here.

[binaryFate]

In btct is a 1,5M selling wall, someones is trying to get out desesperately LOL

That's part of the new IPO, not someone getting out.

ok, thanks! Didn't know.

Do you know how much AMC shares there are in total? Thanks!

Take it to the AMC thread please, they run a questionable operation and I'd prefer that AM shareholders not presume it is a safe investment because it is being taken seriously here.

+1. Even more since they changed the name to "AM". Any confusion introduced in a newbie mind is a gift to them. 

[velacreations]

DIVIDEND PREDICTIONS

I'm gonna say .021/share

[binaryFate]

Let's play this game 

DIVIDEND PREDICTION: 0.0236

[velacreations]

Let's play this game 

DIVIDEND PREDICTION: 0.0236

I hope you're right!

[vlaoou321]

The fact is 0.01687 Dividend

[Lohoris]

The fact is 0.01687 Dividend

"fact"?

Either it is a speculation or it is a fact.

If you say it's a fact but it's a speculation, you're a cheater.

[velacreations]

The fact is 0.01687 Dividend

*citation required

[ThickAsThieves]

The fact is 0.01687 Dividend

*ignore required

ftfy