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August 01, 2013, 08:39:09 AM |
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Roger thanks for not supersizing it as much as in the other threads  |
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August 01, 2013, 10:40:04 AM |
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I wonder how high AsicMiner would've reached if the competition hadn't really heated up as it did?
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runam0k
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August 01, 2013, 10:58:17 AM |
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I wonder how high AsicMiner would've reached if the competition hadn't really heated up as it did?
I see it as a temporary rush of funds/diversifying to other opportunities. AM price looks a touch low to me. Mid to high 4s seems about right, maybe higher if the whole franchising thing works out. All guesswork though. |
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SimonL
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August 01, 2013, 01:42:33 PM |
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I wonder how high AsicMiner would've reached if the competition hadn't really heated up as it did?
I see it as a temporary rush of funds/diversifying to other opportunities. AM price looks a touch low to me. Mid to high 4s seems about right, maybe higher if the whole franchising thing works out. All guesswork though. One thing that is absolutely certain is none of the new (serious) competitors will be selling or hashing on the network for at least 3 months with their new chips (and maybe even longer). I wouldn't actually consider Labcoin a threat either since its only a copy of Avalon's model. I think many people have had a sudden rush of blood to the head and panic bought once a smidge of legitimacy to the new group's claims was confirmed. I reckon a week or two from now the outlook will be very different. The greedy people will be getting impatient while Asicminer continues to chug along. Looking at the impatience of the buying onslaught, I hardly reckon they'll be able to wait 3+ months for the claimed dividends to come rolling in (I could be wrong though). It will be interesting to see how Friedcat responds to these developments, he seems to keep his cards extremely close to his chest regarding new hardware. The blades and blockerupters were practically announced days before he started selling them all at once. He's already hinted at "next-gen" hardware in his last announcement and "franchising" over the coming months meaning he must be planning a massive deployment of hashing hardware if he's needing to split it up among a number of independent parties. He also seems to be notorious for making conservative claims, then delivering far more than expected. The guy is obviously a very shrewd planner. |
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velacreations (OP)
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August 01, 2013, 02:05:01 PM |
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I wish FC would give us some more info on what is happening with the hardware, and why it is delayed a month, now.
I think a fair price for AM is around 4.5-4.7 right now, with so many major things on the horizon.
The only real competition AM has right now is on the stock exchanges, and once these new IPOs blow over (few days), people will move their money into the stock with less risk (AM)
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August 01, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
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The dividend has now been paid out of BF, the BTC is on it's way to BTCT.
//DeaDTerra
SDICE payments are on the way, grab your cheap shares now  edit: whoops, I intended to post this on activemining thread, sorry |
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August 01, 2013, 04:07:46 PM |
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Activemining (ala AMC) are up about 600 to 700% over the past few weeks, how much more are you expecting?
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velacreations (OP)
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August 01, 2013, 04:15:45 PM |
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Activemining (ala AMC) are up about 600 to 700% over the past few weeks, how much more are you expecting?
wrong thread, but I expect Activemining to gradually decrease over the next few weeks as AM brings new hardware for sale. All of these companies that are offering promises will fall as soon as AM delivers, which can happen at any time. |
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Pompobit
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August 01, 2013, 04:20:16 PM |
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Activemining (ala AMC) are up about 600 to 700% over the past few weeks, how much more are you expecting?
ActiveMining are now up about 200-250% respect the IPO price. And when the eASIC will announce the press release price will rise considerably. And actually shares on bitfunder are really cheap, compared to the btct ones, so the new coins SDICE is flowing, will let people to jump on the boat. The ActM potential is high, if they will do well an half like AsicMiner did, the price will go up to ~0.03 - 0.035 |
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velacreations (OP)
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August 01, 2013, 04:25:23 PM |
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The ActM potential is high, if they will do well an half like AsicMiner did, the price will go up to ~0.03 - 0.035
They have a completely different market, network, and situation than AM. oh, and they have to compete with AM. They won't perform even remotely as well as AM. |
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August 01, 2013, 04:55:49 PM |
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Activemining (ala AMC) are up about 600 to 700% over the past few weeks, how much more are you expecting?
ActiveMining are now up about 200-250% respect the IPO price. And when the eASIC will announce the press release price will rise considerably. And actually shares on bitfunder are really cheap, compared to the btct ones, so the new coins SDICE is flowing, will let people to jump on the boat. The ActM potential is high, if they will do well an half like AsicMiner did, the price will go up to ~0.03 - 0.035 A lot of people forget or are simply unaware that the IPO price for AMC was 0.0005 BTC, not 0.0025 BTC. That was the second batch of shares. It's currently up over 1000%. |
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ThickAsThieves
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August 01, 2013, 05:02:18 PM |
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Back on topic plz, you're feeding the socks.
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chriswilmer
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August 01, 2013, 05:14:11 PM |
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Can somebody who is talented at this sort of thing figure out ASICMiner's "effective" hashrate based on the incoming rewards deposited in the ASICMiner bitcoin address? (since many are coming from IP's that are not officially tagged as belonging to ASICMiner)
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TadpolesIsAWinner
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August 02, 2013, 01:28:32 AM |
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Official Speculation:
Anyone else look at all these IPO's with hefty promises and just think "I bet the Grilled Cat is looking at these too, laughing, and saying to himself, 'Big returns by the end of the year? I'll show you some big returns dog! (or cat) Y'all don't even know what I got in the works!'"
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August 02, 2013, 04:42:49 AM |
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Official Speculation:
Anyone else look at all these IPO's with hefty promises and just think "I bet the Grilled Cat is looking at these too, laughing, and saying to himself, 'Big returns by the end of the year? I'll show you some big returns dog! (or cat) Y'all don't even know what I got in the works!'"
Well it certainly true there is only one cake to cut up. Its not like new players can help expand any markets .... so as time goes on, new players will be ignored unless they are really bringing something special to the table. This will be the last year where start-ups can just say "give us your money because we are cool" and hope to get away with it. Reality will hit home with investors when start-ups fail left, right and centre. |
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freedomno1
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August 02, 2013, 04:51:06 AM |
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Official Speculation:
Anyone else look at all these IPO's with hefty promises and just think "I bet the Grilled Cat is looking at these too, laughing, and saying to himself, 'Big returns by the end of the year? I'll show you some big returns dog! (or cat) Y'all don't even know what I got in the works!'"
Well it certainly true there is only one cake to cut up. Its not like new players can help expand any markets .... so as time goes on, new players will be ignored unless they are really bringing something special to the table. This will be the last year where start-ups can just say "give us your money because we are cool" and hope to get away with it. Reality will hit home with investors when start-ups fail left, right and centre. Well this year is the year of the investors Next year the year of early adopters ;P |
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August 02, 2013, 05:17:47 AM |
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Good to see that ASICMINER back to 19% on blocks solved.
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August 02, 2013, 12:19:13 PM |
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go AM!  |
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August 02, 2013, 02:22:22 PM |
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The new pastime for mining start-ups seems to be advertising "projected" percentage of global hashrate. FC has always said he was targeting 10%-15% I believe. He so far has been the only entity capable of consistently hitting that target. Several others have included numbers in their offerings claiming numbers all the way to 35% as future targets.
A quick back of the envelope calculation from issuers projections from the securities listed on BTC-TC gives you (when taken together) over 180% of the global hash.
I would tend to think that some of these projections might be overly optimistic, but that is only if you use that math stuff. Realistically, I tend to think that most it not all of these projections will under-perform significantly. I also do not believe that any other endeavor has a remote chance of cutting into AM 10%-15%. So they will all have to beat each other to death (along with all of the pool-miners) for the remaining 85%.
If you buy these shares with the expectation that they will achieve a certain percentage of global hash, you will stand to lose considerable assets.
Others promise. pre-roasted cat baked cat Fried Cat delivers.
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