ASICMINER Speculation Thread

[mechs]

Currently at 1.1BTC.  My wager: we hit 0.55BTC on any of the three (soon to be two) main exchanges - haverlock, bitfunder or btct before we hit 2.2BTC.  Basically I bet we will go down 50% before we double.  Anyone want to take that bet for 1BTC?

I think it will go even lower.

Ditto.

Listen, if they fall so behind they can neither sell or mine at a profit, they will go to 0 after they pay out any residual profits in a final dividend.  This really is a all-or-none situation hence the volatility

Makes sense to me. I personally believe that AM will not hit 0, they will pull something out and manage to hold a spot at the Big Boys table. The amount of time it takes them to establish that could easily bring the price below 0.5฿. This is make or break and the price is screaming that reality.

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The only way to really know if it going to 0 is to know what FC really up to.  Unless you have insider info, that is all just hunches and guesses.

[dexX7]

Actually I think the current price drop is mainly based on the fact that BTCT closes and I assume not everyone is happy with direct shares or Havelock. It's hard to say where we are heading, but I think a meaningful answer can only be given post-BTCT.

[KarmaShark]

Actually I think the current price drop is mainly based on the fact that BTCT closes and I assume not everyone is happy with direct shares or Havelock. It's hard to say where we are heading, but I think a meaningful answer can only be given post-BTCT.

Little of Column A, little of Column B on this one. BTCT's closure coinciding with AM's personal hurdles plus the bear market in ฿itcoin related securities has created the perform storm. There is definitely a shit storm a brewing right now for anyone other than liquid ฿itcoin holders. One thing new entrants into ฿itcoin realize eventually is the laws of money in the inflationary world do not exist here.

Our assets are backed by a deflationary money, this changes the dynamic. The rest of the world now wants what AM had, this changes the dynamic. I felt horrible at the time for selling as muchAM @ 4BTC/share as I did, part of the learning curve of playing in a new paradigm. I think 5BTC/share will be a much, much more difficult to reach for ASICMINER in the future with the increasing competition in play combined with investors who will for lack of a better term will 'know better' next time.

Kind of puts a dark cloud over ฿itcoin assets when the currencies first major success story is going down the elevator shaft along with everyone else. Hold on tight Boys and Girls!

[eiprol]

Looking at havelock, the yield at 1.1btc is around 41%... even though nobody can grant future dividends, I dont see why is falling so much... tomorrow is payment day!

[puck2]

Looking at havelock, the yield at 1.1btc is around 41%... even though nobody can grant future dividends, I dont see why is falling so much... tomorrow is payment day!

just weak hands and low volume trading... nothing to worry about if you're holding on for dividends

[freedomno1]

Well this is a fair time to observe 

[lophie]

I moved a few shares to trade on havelock, OMG the volume of trade is pathetic. a sell or a buy every 14 hours or so.................

[twentyseventy]

I moved a few shares to trade on havelock, OMG the volume of trade is pathetic. a sell or a buy every 14 hours or so.................

Havelock has about 4K shares while BF has about 12K - do you think this changeover will see a big influx into Havelock?

[romerun]

What are pros cons of bitfunderpt and havelockpt

[lophie]

I moved a few shares to trade on havelock, OMG the volume of trade is pathetic. a sell or a buy every 14 hours or so.................

Havelock has about 4K shares while BF has about 12K - do you think this changeover will see a big influx into Havelock?

Well at least for havelock they have a working api 

[BitHub]

RIP asicminer. Its been fun

[lophie]

RIP asicminer. Its been fun

Good bye short term investor. Let us know how life is treating you in the Bitcoin based stock markets scene. We might leave, we might stay. But we will never kick the cat while it is down, especially when we believe a comeback is behind the curtains.

Personally, I am planning to leave a significant amount of my shares after this anticipated comeback. But not before.

[hlynur]

RIP asicminer. Its been fun

"i dreamed a dream" - Morpheus.....RIP ASICMINER.

its all a scam, sell it all

...so you seem to have been invested in sandstorm and sell Amethyst shares (congrats by the way...amazing company https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263684.0)

i heard upcoming Amirite IPO stomps everything else to the ground soon...even labcoin.  
don't miss the train!!!

[BitHub]

Amethyst is the only company that hasn't fallen in share price, in fact while asicminer was going down Amethyst went from 3btc to 5btc a share.


anyway RIP.

[adamstgBit]

System Maintenance. We're workin on it...

damn it!

i was just buying up ASICMINER

[empoweoqwj]

Looking at havelock, the yield at 1.1btc is around 41%... even though nobody can grant future dividends, I dont see why is falling so much... tomorrow is payment day!

just weak hands and low volume trading... nothing to worry about if you're holding on for dividends

I think we are all holding on for Gen2, and ASAP. Without Gen2 and all the competition kit coming online now, dividends will tend to zero very very quickly (i.e next 2 months) and share price will follow. Let's hope FC has been using the last 6 months and thousands of bitcoins squirrelled away to come up with a very effective Gen2 solution, and by next month at latest. Not sure I could take close to zero dividends combined with plummeting share price. But heck,  I can't afford to get out now ....

Only good news - we're into October, a month nearer November  

[BitThink]

Looking at havelock, the yield at 1.1btc is around 41%... even though nobody can grant future dividends, I dont see why is falling so much... tomorrow is payment day!

just weak hands and low volume trading... nothing to worry about if you're holding on for dividends

I think we are all holding on for Gen2, and ASAP. Without Gen2 and all the competition kit coming online now, dividends will tend to zero very very quickly (i.e next 2 months) and share price will follow. Let's hope FC has been using the last 6 months and thousands of bitcoins squirrelled away to come up with a very effective Gen2 solution, and by next month at latest. Not sure I could take close to zero dividends combined with plummeting share price. But heck,  I can't afford to get out now ....

Only good news - we're into October, a month nearer November  

Have you seen the friedcat's latest update? The order size of gen-2 chips have not been decided, and there's at least 2 months from order to get the chips. How can it be available before end of November? The only hope is 500T in October, and 1P in December, all in gen-1.

[empoweoqwj]

Looking at havelock, the yield at 1.1btc is around 41%... even though nobody can grant future dividends, I dont see why is falling so much... tomorrow is payment day!

just weak hands and low volume trading... nothing to worry about if you're holding on for dividends

I think we are all holding on for Gen2, and ASAP. Without Gen2 and all the competition kit coming online now, dividends will tend to zero very very quickly (i.e next 2 months) and share price will follow. Let's hope FC has been using the last 6 months and thousands of bitcoins squirrelled away to come up with a very effective Gen2 solution, and by next month at latest. Not sure I could take close to zero dividends combined with plummeting share price. But heck,  I can't afford to get out now ....

Only good news - we're into October, a month nearer November  

Have you seen the friedcat's latest update? The order size of gen-2 chips have not been decided, and there's at least 2 months from order to get the chips. How can it be available before end of November? The only hope is 500T in October, and 1P in December, all in gen-1.

Yeah, I'm living more on hope than reality at the moment. Thanks for the reality check. Time for a distraction, I'm going to play GTA V for a couple of months 

[lophie]

Greeting wise ones. It is now, the time for our weekly ritual...............

Dividends estimation and speculation.

I will start. Better than last week. But worse than the week before last week.

The floor is all yours.........

[San1ty]

Let's not get our hopes up:
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Would be nice if it's better.