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January 21, 2014, 07:48:29 AM
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My first meme ever.

If you really wanted to get your money back, surely you have better things to do than this? It doesn't help your situation in any way, just gives others - who my not be HF customers - an opportunity to hijack your thread.

If I was part of HF's management, I'd be watching this thread in total disbelief.
I liked it.

It reflects the absurdity of the situation.

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January 21, 2014, 07:52:19 AM
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One of the more important questions is, why doesn't lovely Cara look as pretty in the video as in that picture where she was showing her wares?

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January 21, 2014, 08:01:30 AM
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January 21, 2014, 08:41:39 AM
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If you really wanted to get your money back, surely you have better things to do than this?
No, because it being 3 months that i'm getting ready for this everything is already accounted for.

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January 21, 2014, 08:53:55 AM
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I guess that "everyone" received this:

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Dear Davide,

We wanted to confirm with you that you received the refund check that we sent you last week.  If you did not receive it, please let me know at your earliest opportunity at [refunds@hashfast.com].  If you believe you received a refund check in error, please contact us and do not cash it.

We have been asked by a few refund check recipients if they will receive additional amounts.  To be clear, please take notice: THE CHECK YOU RECEIVED CONSTITUTES PAYMENT IN FULL AND FINAL SATISFACTION OF ALL OBLIGATIONS OF HASHFAST TO YOU.  CASHING OR OTHERWISE OBTAINING PAYMENT OF THIS CHECK WILL CONSTITUTE AN AGREEMENT ON YOUR PART THAT HASHFAST HAS SATISFIED ALL OF ITS OBLIGATIONS TO YOU, AND WILL CONSTITUTE A WAIVER AND RELEASE OF ALL FURTHER CLAIMS THAT YOU HAVE OR MAY HAVE AGAINST HASHFAST, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY CLAIM THAT HASHFAST OWES YOU A GREATER REFUND, A DIFFERENT REFUND, AND/OR ANY OTHER AMOUNTS, WHETHER DUE BECAUSE OF SHIPPING DELAYS, EXCHANGE RATES, OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON.

Thank you,

Customer Support

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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January 21, 2014, 09:02:56 AM
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Anyway the news we got from todays' shipping is that they are not shipping the MPP along with the order.

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January 21, 2014, 09:04:21 AM
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I guess that "everyone" received this:

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Dear Davide,

We wanted to confirm with you that you received the refund check that we sent you last week.  If you did not receive it, please let me know at your earliest opportunity at [refunds@hashfast.com].  If you believe you received a refund check in error, please contact us and do not cash it.

We have been asked by a few refund check recipients if they will receive additional amounts.  To be clear, please take notice: THE CHECK YOU RECEIVED CONSTITUTES PAYMENT IN FULL AND FINAL SATISFACTION OF ALL OBLIGATIONS OF HASHFAST TO YOU.  CASHING OR OTHERWISE OBTAINING PAYMENT OF THIS CHECK WILL CONSTITUTE AN AGREEMENT ON YOUR PART THAT HASHFAST HAS SATISFIED ALL OF ITS OBLIGATIONS TO YOU, AND WILL CONSTITUTE A WAIVER AND RELEASE OF ALL FURTHER CLAIMS THAT YOU HAVE OR MAY HAVE AGAINST HASHFAST, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY CLAIM THAT HASHFAST OWES YOU A GREATER REFUND, A DIFFERENT REFUND, AND/OR ANY OTHER AMOUNTS, WHETHER DUE BECAUSE OF SHIPPING DELAYS, EXCHANGE RATES, OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON.

Thank you,

Customer Support
This is called digging your heels in the sand.

They have drawn the line in the sand without ambiguity, now it is up to customers to cross it. [or turn to jelly and accept it.]

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January 21, 2014, 09:28:46 AM
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I guess that "everyone" received this:

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Dear Davide,

We wanted to confirm with you that you received the refund check that we sent you last week.  If you did not receive it, please let me know at your earliest opportunity at [refunds@hashfast.com].  If you believe you received a refund check in error, please contact us and do not cash it.

We have been asked by a few refund check recipients if they will receive additional amounts.  To be clear, please take notice: THE CHECK YOU RECEIVED CONSTITUTES PAYMENT IN FULL AND FINAL SATISFACTION OF ALL OBLIGATIONS OF HASHFAST TO YOU.  CASHING OR OTHERWISE OBTAINING PAYMENT OF THIS CHECK WILL CONSTITUTE AN AGREEMENT ON YOUR PART THAT HASHFAST HAS SATISFIED ALL OF ITS OBLIGATIONS TO YOU, AND WILL CONSTITUTE A WAIVER AND RELEASE OF ALL FURTHER CLAIMS THAT YOU HAVE OR MAY HAVE AGAINST HASHFAST, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY CLAIM THAT HASHFAST OWES YOU A GREATER REFUND, A DIFFERENT REFUND, AND/OR ANY OTHER AMOUNTS, WHETHER DUE BECAUSE OF SHIPPING DELAYS, EXCHANGE RATES, OR FOR ANY OTHER REASON.

Thank you,

Customer Support
Another "oops, we forgot to mention that" event?

It'll go down in history as the bait and switch refund scam.

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January 21, 2014, 10:44:10 AM
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Was that printed on the check? Otherwise, letting you know later on that they think that releases them from liability is a friggin joke.

How do they keep making stupid mistakes? Is their lawyer a total hack? Mine would never let me send out such bullshit.
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January 21, 2014, 10:47:02 AM
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It's not a stupid mistake at all, the check was accompanied with a letter that said that the included check was a follow up of their email sent "day hour minute second" (even if it being a mass email it probably went out during different seconds).
So if you cashed that check you agreed to the terms of that email.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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January 21, 2014, 12:33:28 PM
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One of the more important questions is, why doesn't lovely Cara look as pretty in the video as in that picture where she was showing her wares?

i assure you cara is lovely in real life.  for some reason on the video that wasnt apparent ...

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January 21, 2014, 04:54:04 PM
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I wanted to share a thing. I think that i should stop researching after this and simply leave the lawyer do the dirty job. I'm reaching the limit between devotion and craziness.

It's from when they released the first pictures of the sierra that i kept wondering why the hell one would do such an asymmetric design (3 boards instead of 4). It simply never made sense. Apart from the cooling, it never made sense.

Another thing that never made sense? The previous design of the Sierra, the 2U version. Who would be crazy to the point of fitting 2kW in a 2U unit? It never made sense as well, and when i met John @ Amsterdam he was talking about how server PSUs are too expensive and that that was the reason why they moved to a 4U unit, to use consumer grade PSUs. Well, no, that was not the reason.

Now everything makes sense.

Still waiting for your next move or lack of, HF.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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January 21, 2014, 05:03:30 PM
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I wanted to share a thing. I think that i should stop researching after this and simply leave the lawyer do the dirty job. I'm reaching the limit between devotion and craziness.

It's from when they released the first pictures of the sierra that i kept wondering why the hell one would do such an asymmetric design (3 boards instead of 4). It simply never made sense. Apart from the cooling, it never made sense.

Another thing that never made sense? The previous design of the Sierra, the 2U version. Who would be crazy to the point of fitting 2kW in a 2U unit? It never made sense as well, and when i met John @ Amsterdam he was talking about how server PSUs are too expensive and that that was the reason why they moved to a 4U unit, to use consumer grade PSUs. Well, no, that was not the reason.

Now everything makes sense.

Still waiting for your next move or lack of, HF.

I'm not sure what you are alluding to here? I'm curious though. You're talking about thermals and case design--I don't think they are looking at consumer (meaning complete units) sales anymore personally as a company.
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January 21, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
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I've hashed it and i will release the file once that this is all over so that you will either be surprised or have a good laugh at me Wink

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January 21, 2014, 05:09:08 PM
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I've hashed it and i will release the file once that this is all over so that you will either be surprised or have a good laugh at me Wink

What is your definition of this being "all over?"
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January 21, 2014, 05:09:53 PM
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I've hashed it and i will release the file once that this is all over so that you will either be surprised or have a good laugh at me Wink
What is your definition of this being "all over?"
My money back, a correct compensation, or a penal proceeding starting against them as individuals.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
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January 21, 2014, 05:16:40 PM
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I've hashed it and i will release the file once that this is all over so that you will either be surprised or have a good laugh at me Wink
What is your definition of this being "all over?"
My money back, a correct compensation, or a penal proceeding starting against them as individuals.

I would say that's fair enough, but unfortunately I don't think the customers are going to come out on top in this case. Especially the early orders. I'm just basing this, of course, off my experience with Butterfly Labs and Avalon.

It is good to see that there is an actual product, though. I was starting to get worried about that Wink
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January 21, 2014, 05:19:40 PM
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I suspect Mr. Inaba, unfortunately, has more money than most of us and just chuckles at such statements.

Yeah, he scammed a lot of people, and got a lot of money. But there are plenty of rich idiots.

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January 21, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
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BFL never promised the same things HF did. If you go on their webshop right now they are really clear that you are ordering a product that could ship or maybe not. Even if it is "in stock".
Avalon was a chinese company, and they gave at least the BTC back to a good share of customers. Yes, some got screwed.

HF promised the world and people like me bought only for those promises. So i would say that we will really come out "on the top" of this.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 21, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
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So, hashfast has sent no shipping news? Niether informed anyone of what the ETA for there machine is?
I have way too much invested in this obvious scam, I feel stupid and could have invested my money much better then this, to add insult to injury I've paid for shares in a GB, one with USD and one with BTC. The one unit we purchased in BTC I paid USD for my shares  and the one we bought off someone else who paid in USD I paid in BTC now the GB organizer wants to pay me back in USD for all my shares be we will have to litigate against HF to get our money back.
BTW the GB organizer should make about 10k USD off this deal if they win

Lesson, trust nobody and believe nothing....

Anyone interested in buying my shares PM me Smiley

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