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January 10, 2014, 09:58:54 PM
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I dont know nor care about BFL, but about HF:

http://hashfast.com/tapeout/

Rumor goes that Simon had the RTL ready for years.

So you put your money down on some guy called Simon off the internet instead of ORSoC IC engineering.  Who have a track record of bringing ASIC's from conception to market.  I'm not having a go because I made the same mistake too and got bummed (excuse the language) off BFL 65nm ASIC's.  The only reason BFL got FPGA's to market because a single programer can program them.  Then the program is emulated.  Even I've studied Verilog and VHDL and could do what BFL and HF did.

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January 10, 2014, 10:01:19 PM
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Try to read the link I've posted instead of shilling pro KNC (and their almost unknown partners).

No one is questioning that they did their job. The problem I have with HF is not related with the engineering thing.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 10, 2014, 10:03:17 PM
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What are you talking about? All of their contractors are (should?) be public.

Who designed BFL and HF ASIC's?  While KNC announced ORSoC IC engineering was building their chips.  Plus ORSoC IC engineering news announcements confirmed this.  A reputable company who had brought ASIC's from conception to market before.  BFL kept everything secrete while HF only announced who was fabricating their chips IIRC.  I didn't follow HF closely and was waiting for them to ship before putting any coin down but I don't remember any engineering partnerships being announced.  Just manufactures and assembly partnerships being announced.  What I mean is KNC already had an IC designing and manufacturing company to push the boat along with companies to manufacture and assemble their ASIC's.  From conception to delivery while KNC handled the bitcoin community and economy side of things.  Although maybe I missed the engineering company partnership by HF.  If they did maybe you should be going after that companies blood too for failure to provide working chips by early October or was that under the NDA?

As much as I would like to beat up on HashFast for their predatory pricing of batch 1, their engineering partner was listed on the first post of this thread.  Uniquify.

So why aren't your legal team going for them breaching the contract.  Surely they publicly announced the chips to be finished in Q3 2013.  I'm not trying to take any venom off HF.  Plus like I said I didn't research them thoroughly and was waiting for them to ship before putting any coin down.

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January 10, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
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Try to read the link I've posted instead of shilling pro KNC (and their almost unknown partners).

No one is questioning that they did their job. The problem I have with HF is not related with the engineering thing.

Dude don't call me a shill I've been on this forum probably since before you even heard of bitcoin and BTW KNC is giving me a good ROI so far.

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January 10, 2014, 10:08:35 PM
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I've not called you a shill, I've said that you were shilling, or inaccurately voting for someone with no objective reasoning.

Do we really want to discuss who is better between the partners that knc and HF used? I dont think this to be the time nor the place.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 10, 2014, 10:18:10 PM
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I dont know nor care about BFL, but about HF:

http://hashfast.com/tapeout/

Rumor goes that Simon had the RTL ready for years.

So you put your money down on some guy called Simon off the internet instead of ORSoC IC engineering.  Who have a track record of bringing ASIC's from conception to market.  I'm not having a go because I made the same mistake too and got bummed (excuse the language) off BFL 65nm ASIC's.  The only reason BFL got FPGA's to market because a single programer can program them.  Then the program is emulated.  Even I've studied Verilog and VHDL and could do what BFL and HF did.

Back in August.. HF had all the appearences of being legit.. I personally had to choose between HF and KNC. Ultimately it came down to picking a USA company.


cough.  GO USA.. cough cough

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January 10, 2014, 10:36:45 PM
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I've not called you a shill, I've said that you were shilling, or inaccurately voting for someone with no objective reasoning.

Do we really want to discuss who is better between the partners that knc and HF used? I dont think this to be the time nor the place.

Losing money hurts and you was just trolling.  I'm not arsed it's a public forum for bitcoin education and my posts were on topic.  I bet my 20nm chips that I bought at $1K/BTC ship before your 28nm chips paid for at <$100/BTC.  Enjoy the thread have a nice evening.

I dont know nor care about BFL, but about HF:

http://hashfast.com/tapeout/

Rumor goes that Simon had the RTL ready for years.

So you put your money down on some guy called Simon off the internet instead of ORSoC IC engineering.  Who have a track record of bringing ASIC's from conception to market.  I'm not having a go because I made the same mistake too and got bummed (excuse the language) off BFL 65nm ASIC's.  The only reason BFL got FPGA's to market because a single programer can program them.  Then the program is emulated.  Even I've studied Verilog and VHDL and could do what BFL and HF did.

Back in August.. HF had all the appearences of being legit.. I personally had to choose between HF and KNC. Ultimately it came down to picking a USA company.


cough.  GO USA.. cough cough

I've already made my comment that after both BFL and HF that I would find it very hard to ever again trust a US crypto-coin ASIC manufacture now.  Just put a wedge down on some Indians whose office is in a ghetto in Manchester UK and I bet they pull through.  After all they only wanted a deposit and their IC design company has thrown their hat in the ring.  So not only is this company of immigrants based in a ghetto at risk of tarnishing their name but an already established company who'll want to be touting for international work after this project has too.  They've left the all the electrical and electronic work to company that already does that and has a track record of doing that.  While they just manage the crypto-coin community.  Unlike BFL and HF or did Uniquify fail to design and manufacture your chips before October.  Or was HF lying and they promised late December?

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January 10, 2014, 10:41:30 PM
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Back in August.. HF had all the appearences of being legit.. I personally had to choose between HF and KNC. Ultimately it came down to picking a USA company.


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January 10, 2014, 10:47:02 PM
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Please point me out were I was trolling in one of my last 10 posts... If I'm trolling someone that's usually HF.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 10, 2014, 10:54:03 PM
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KNC ORSoC announcement April 2013 - http://www.orsoc.se/?p=508 - HF Uniquify first announcement over three months later - http://www.uniquify.com/uniquify-hashfast-ink-agreement-to-produce-asics-to-increase-hashing-speed-for-bitcoin-miners/ - First KNC chips in October and first HF chips over three months later.  Now HF aren't delivering like KNC did because they know their brand is toxic so they're mining as much as possible instead of delivering.  While offering full fiat cash refunds even tho most orders would have been in BTC.  No wonder Josh is appearing in this thread.  If he appeared in the KNC one he'd get trolled out by KNC staff.

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January 10, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
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KNC ORSoC announcement April 2013 - http://www.orsoc.se/?p=508 - HF Uniquify first announcement over three months later - http://www.uniquify.com/uniquify-hashfast-ink-agreement-to-produce-asics-to-increase-hashing-speed-for-bitcoin-miners/ - First KNC chips in October and first HF chips over three months later.  Now HF aren't delivering like KNC did because they know their brand is toxic so they're mining as much as possible instead of delivering.  While offering full fiat cash refunds even tho most orders would have been in BTC.  No wonder Josh is appearing in this thread.  If he appeared in the KNC one he'd get trolled out by KNC staff.

I do not disagree

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January 10, 2014, 11:07:01 PM
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Please point me out were I was trolling in one of my last 10 posts... If I'm trolling someone that's usually HF.

No sweat maybe I'm just tired and being arsey.  As a bitcointalk.org community member I think HF should get all that's thrown at them and I'm trying to help even tho I have no dog in the fight.  Plus my favorite lady friend speaks Italian and her Father is Italian  Wink  I've never eat so much pasta and olive oil recently  Grin

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January 10, 2014, 11:24:25 PM
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What happen with hashfast
Did delivered any device or not yet .

Yeah I'd like to know that too! Last news post was from 31st December. They claimed that they started shipping that day bu there have been no news updates since and no one on the forum seems to confirm receiving any units so far.
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January 10, 2014, 11:30:22 PM
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Yeah I'd like to know that too! Last news post was from 31st December. They claimed that they started shipping that day bu there have been no news updates since and no one on the forum seems to confirm receiving any units so far.
http://hashfast.org/List_of_Lies#We_Are_Shipping comes to mind.

About the italian cuisine... What can I say, I'm writing from an Italian pizzeria in Dublin Smiley

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 10, 2014, 11:46:29 PM
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Yeah I'd like to know that too! Last news post was from 31st December. They claimed that they started shipping that day bu there have been no news updates since and no one on the forum seems to confirm receiving any units so far.
http://hashfast.org/List_of_Lies#We_Are_Shipping comes to mind.

About the italian cuisine... What can I say, I'm writing from an Italian pizzeria in Dublin Smiley

I've not been to Dublin in a while.  Back on topic I'm still butthurt over giving BFL over BTC200 in July 2012.  Although there's not much more I can do on this forum about them any more.  I thought I saw HF pulling the same trick with all the NDA talk.  Although my previous post explains my updated opinion about the three month difference in engineering announcements and the three month difference in producing actual chips.  Anyway back off topic if our current pre-orders do well and especially if BTC hits $10K this year.  Then www.redstarmining.com is planning on a board meeting in Cyprus next winter due to the NEOBEE payment network being set up over there.  That anyone is invited too.  I have a friend at NEOBEE and am hoping on a tour of the bank.  About KNC shilling well RSM isn't putting any more money down on Neptunes and we only made the 15(TH/s) order due to it being batch one and day one with a discount.  I think we'd have to see at least $2K a coin before spending $10K on 3(TH/s)@20nm for Q2 delivery.  Bitcoin mining profit margins are only going to get tighter and tighter.  While it come down electricity costs and Moore's Law over then next year IMO.  That's why we're trying our luck at LTC ASIC's pre-orders currently.

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January 10, 2014, 11:52:28 PM
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That's why we're trying our luck at LTC ASIC's pre-orders currently.

lol, I will stick with GPUS until i see a working product.....  aren't they even going to try an FPGA first?


note: i realize i may derail the thread.. but who gives a flying fk.   HF is odviously just ignoring anyone that does'nt agree to the new terms.


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January 10, 2014, 11:59:05 PM
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note: i realize i may derail the thread.. but who gives a flying fk.   HF is odviously just ignoring anyone that does'nt agree to the new terms.
I want to see if they are gonna ignore my lawyer... Wait, they did it, since that the deadline I gave then was today!

There is not a lot to discuss about HF, they probably have the means to give to batch 1, customers what they deserve (like MPP before the end of the month), yet they prefer to ignore us... Who gives a shit anymore, I agree. Let's talk about ltc asic preorders! Is there any Chinese company doing preorders? Maybe one with a designer that was doing mod chips for a ps2 in the past? I would bet on them!

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 11, 2014, 12:05:44 AM
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note: i realize i may derail the thread.. but who gives a flying fk.   HF is odviously just ignoring anyone that does'nt agree to the new terms.
I want to see if they are gonna ignore my lawyer... Wait, they did it, since that the deadline I gave then was today!

There is not a lot to discuss about HF, they probably have the means to give to batch 1, customers what they deserve (like MPP before the end of the month), yet they prefer to ignore us... Who gives a shit anymore, I agree. Let's talk about ltc asic preorders! Is there any Chinese company doing preorders? Maybe one with a designer that was doing mod chips for a ps2 in the past? I would bet on them!

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I assumed you ordered the Alpha Technology ASICs. I personally am wary of them being a scam or not delivering until well past the original pre-order delivery date. I am looking more at Jasinlee's Fibonacci ASICs, which also have an earlier release. Though a problem some people have with the Fibonacci ones is that it will only be hosted mining until other Scrypt ASICs arrive (as in fully deliver).

http://dexceldesigns.com/news_events.html < That is what has given me confidence to put the deposits down.  That company with a track record of bringing ASIC's from conception to market is handling all the design and manufacture.  While Alpha is just providing all the crypto-coin community support.  Another thing is we paid with bitpay and they're very fussy over who uses their payment network.  Which makes me believe it's not a fraud.  While with an established ASIC manufacturer handling all the design and manufacture leads me to believe they won't fail through incompetence like BFL and HF.

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January 11, 2014, 12:17:20 AM
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I think that next time that I do a preorder (it will be in another life), I will do a background check on the CEO and I will try to buy some informations about the company from the inside.

And once that I've done that I will ask to Josh what he thinks and I will do the complete opposite.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 11, 2014, 12:18:43 AM
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I think that next time that I do a preorder (it will be in another life), I will do a background check on the CEO and I will try to buy some informations about the company from the inside.

And once that I've done that I will ask to Josh what he thinks and I will do the complete opposite.

Without risk there's no reward, who dare's wins and what do you expect buying magic money making machines  Wink

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