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January 19, 2014, 03:19:47 AM
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IMPORTANT: Somehow I got 526c3f277cb1 and n8rwJeTt8TrrLKPa55eU mixed up. Getting a second cup of coffee once I get off the shitter.

thats gotta be a good startup company. upload your own images like icetard posts, scamfast emails and posts and have them printed onto custom shithouse paper  Grin

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January 19, 2014, 03:27:13 AM
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started shilling so hard for them at the onset.

Did you get a PM to shill for HF as well? I did. Rejected that and put HF in perspective. If you can NOT live on the earned praise of this community and or face this community when the shit hits the fan then I suspect you don't deserve the support of this community. It is telling HF is not coming clean, paying people their BTC when asked to do so. The community is still waiting on product? Really?

People here just want one of these "companies" coming out of the starting gate that sells a product off the shelf with no bullshit, with a real refund policy that doesn't attempt in anyway to bait and switch this community. How hard is that? A few have done some modest in roads but to be honest no one has really satisfied the demand for hash power yet.

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January 19, 2014, 04:31:46 AM
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started shilling so hard for them at the onset.

Did you get a PM to shill for HF as well? I did. Rejected that and put HF in perspective. If you can NOT live on the earned praise of this community and or face this community when the shit hits the fan then I suspect you don't deserve the support of this community. It is telling HF is not coming clean, paying people their BTC when asked to do so. The community is still waiting on product? Really?

People here just want one of these "companies" coming out of the starting gate that sells a product off the shelf with no bullshit, with a real refund policy that doesn't attempt in anyway to bait and switch this community. How hard is that? A few have done some modest in roads but to be honest no one is really satisfied the demand for hash power yet.
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January 19, 2014, 04:44:27 AM
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I'd post it here I didn't delete it... let me check.


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Nope I guess I found it so foul I didn't bother to reply to the offer.

It was basically reward to keep the thread at the top and disseminate information they fed I believe. I am pretty sure that a fair number of people were contacted there is evidence of that clearly in the thread after they offered it of people pumping / bumping the thread up. I had been in discussions with HF for chips for our project but given the hard sell as well money they wanted upfront it just wasn't going to take that risk with HF or anyone. Most of these chip vendors are playing the funding game with chip orders. That is too risky given what has happened to me with the Avalon chips. I am never getting into that situation again unless I am working with people who have chips in hand or designing an asic ground up with our group.

Found it:

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Quote from: HashFast on October 13, 2013, 00:59:01
Dear Bicknellski,

This past summer, HashFast created a huge splash in the Bitcoin community after the announcement of its Golden Nonce chip. The Golden Nonce—a 28nm ASIC chip that performs 400 Ghash/s at nominal speed while consuming notably less than 1.0 W/GH—is projected to change the future of Bitcoin mining.

Your thoughts, comments, and questions have acknowledged just how far HashFast has pushed the envelope in the Bitcoin market. Your interest in HashFast's products, as well as your expertise in Bitcoin mining hardware, makes you the perfect candidate to join HashFast’s BitcoinTalk support team.

As a member of the HashFast support team, your overall role will be to facilitate healthy debate and insight within the two HashFast threads in order to make sure that those threads remain at the top of the Custom Hardware message board. Sustaining a flow of supporting posts will encourage interest in the HashFast company and our products, which will lead to increased traffic on the HashFast website, and ultimately drive up purchases of HashFast equipment.

In order to achieve this goal, the HashFast support team member will be responsible for posting at least 1 – 2 supporting posts in each thread every day, or how ever many posts are deemed necessary to maintain a top position in the message board. Because we want to focus on the positive aspects of being a part of the Bitcoin community, verbal attacks by other forum members should only be met with immediate, persistent, reasoned, knowledgeable, and mature responses. Therefore, posts will be monitored to make sure that the language reflects the genuine nature and main objective of being a part of HashFast’s support team.

In exchange for your services, HashFast will keep the support team reasonably updated on engineering information, and any other valuable details, that can be used to enlighten forum participants. Compensation will be $15/hr for 10 hours per week – paid in silicon.

If you are interested in the position as a HashFast support team member, please contact us team@hashfast.com. Hope to hear from you soon.


Cheers,

HashFast Forum Liaison

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Interesting... we are keen to discuss getting sample chips to work on our boards if that is possible. The Wasp Project Cooperative together is more interested in some sort of arrangement.


At the time I was really focused on getting chips but thankfully that didn't pan out given the state of their project. I emailed them in attempts to get chips and nothing more.

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January 19, 2014, 05:02:20 AM
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Souls are cheap these days - $15 an hour in silicon.
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January 19, 2014, 05:05:47 AM
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Ya... I would have sold my soul for chips 'cause it was cheaper than the price of the chips in BTC or $'s, but not to shill on the forum unless I know when and where the project will ultimately go as I shill for the WPC as much as I can as a member. They wanted hundreds of thousands of dollars and basically said that you have to order in the next 2 days sort of thing. RED FLAG there... sorry dudes not going to rushing out to the ATM to buy chips that were supposed to drop in what? October?


We'd appreciate it but the problem is we need only a very small sample quantity to start with to prove the prototype and our mother plane concept.

Hi Bicknellski,

I'm not clear on the mother plane concept.

HashFast's miniboards are self-supporting and only require power, cooling, and a controller with USB and CGminer.  They don't need a mobo/backplane/etc.

Are you saying you wish to develop your own mini (or maxi) board?

I'll keep you in mind and try to get you some samples when we begin bulk mini-board and later raw chip sales.  Our chip's datasheet should be published in a 2-3 weeks.

Would love to see The WASP powered by HashFast!

Best,

-HF_CL

 We are looking for chips only to develop a modular system. See the thread here for more details https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299255.0. We are developing a number of different Wasps that can be installed into the back plane (mother plane) or stand alone and stack like FPGAs.  

Have a look at pages 63 to 68 and see who you think was being paid in Silica.

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January 19, 2014, 08:23:20 AM
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I'd post it here I didn't delete it... let me check.


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Nope I guess I found it so foul I didn't bother to reply to the offer.

It was basically reward to keep the thread at the top and disseminate information they fed I believe. I am pretty sure that a fair number of people were contacted there is evidence of that clearly in the thread after they offered it of people pumping / bumping the thread up. I had been in discussions with HF for chips for our project but given the hard sell as well money they wanted upfront it just wasn't going to take that risk with HF or anyone. Most of these chip vendors are playing the funding game with chip orders. That is too risky given what has happened to me with the Avalon chips. I am never getting into that situation again unless I am working with people who have chips in hand or designing an asic ground up with our group.

Found it:

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Quote from: HashFast on October 13, 2013, 00:59:01
Dear Bicknellski,

This past summer, HashFast created a huge splash in the Bitcoin community after the announcement of its Golden Nonce chip. The Golden Nonce—a 28nm ASIC chip that performs 400 Ghash/s at nominal speed while consuming notably less than 1.0 W/GH—is projected to change the future of Bitcoin mining.

Your thoughts, comments, and questions have acknowledged just how far HashFast has pushed the envelope in the Bitcoin market. Your interest in HashFast's products, as well as your expertise in Bitcoin mining hardware, makes you the perfect candidate to join HashFast’s BitcoinTalk support team.

As a member of the HashFast support team, your overall role will be to facilitate healthy debate and insight within the two HashFast threads in order to make sure that those threads remain at the top of the Custom Hardware message board. Sustaining a flow of supporting posts will encourage interest in the HashFast company and our products, which will lead to increased traffic on the HashFast website, and ultimately drive up purchases of HashFast equipment.

In order to achieve this goal, the HashFast support team member will be responsible for posting at least 1 – 2 supporting posts in each thread every day, or how ever many posts are deemed necessary to maintain a top position in the message board. Because we want to focus on the positive aspects of being a part of the Bitcoin community, verbal attacks by other forum members should only be met with immediate, persistent, reasoned, knowledgeable, and mature responses. Therefore, posts will be monitored to make sure that the language reflects the genuine nature and main objective of being a part of HashFast’s support team.

In exchange for your services, HashFast will keep the support team reasonably updated on engineering information, and any other valuable details, that can be used to enlighten forum participants. Compensation will be $15/hr for 10 hours per week – paid in silicon.

If you are interested in the position as a HashFast support team member, please contact us team@hashfast.com. Hope to hear from you soon.


Cheers,

HashFast Forum Liaison

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Interesting... we are keen to discuss getting sample chips to work on our boards if that is possible. The Wasp Project Cooperative together is more interested in some sort of arrangement.


At the time I was really focused on getting chips but thankfully that didn't pan out given the state of their project. I emailed them in attempts to get chips and nothing more.

Thanks for sharing.This is really important since cypherdoc made a lot of (paid) statements in support of the HF team and payments/refunds that turned out to be false but were apparently encouraged by HF as it benefited sales. HF had the opportunity to debunk these false statements but chose not to. In other words, customers were being purposefully mislead from the get go.

Here are some of those statements:

Quote from: Cypherdoc
from what i understand, your BTC's are going to be guaranteed as well

Quote from: Simon Barber
Yes - what cypherdoc says is true - we endorse this.

Quote from: Cypherdoc
they want only those committed to leaving their BTC with HashFast until the end of the year.  if they fail to deliver, they have said they will give full refunds in BTC.

Quote from: Cypherdoc
once you see details of their Miner Protection Plan and refund details all your fears will melt away.
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January 19, 2014, 08:32:49 AM
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I'd post it here I didn't delete it... let me check.


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Nope I guess I found it so foul I didn't bother to reply to the offer.

It was basically reward to keep the thread at the top and disseminate information they fed I believe. I am pretty sure that a fair number of people were contacted there is evidence of that clearly in the thread after they offered it of people pumping / bumping the thread up. I had been in discussions with HF for chips for our project but given the hard sell as well money they wanted upfront it just wasn't going to take that risk with HF or anyone. Most of these chip vendors are playing the funding game with chip orders. That is too risky given what has happened to me with the Avalon chips. I am never getting into that situation again unless I am working with people who have chips in hand or designing an asic ground up with our group.

Found it:

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Quote from: HashFast on October 13, 2013, 00:59:01
Dear Bicknellski,

This past summer, HashFast created a huge splash in the Bitcoin community after the announcement of its Golden Nonce chip. The Golden Nonce—a 28nm ASIC chip that performs 400 Ghash/s at nominal speed while consuming notably less than 1.0 W/GH—is projected to change the future of Bitcoin mining.

Your thoughts, comments, and questions have acknowledged just how far HashFast has pushed the envelope in the Bitcoin market. Your interest in HashFast's products, as well as your expertise in Bitcoin mining hardware, makes you the perfect candidate to join HashFast’s BitcoinTalk support team.

As a member of the HashFast support team, your overall role will be to facilitate healthy debate and insight within the two HashFast threads in order to make sure that those threads remain at the top of the Custom Hardware message board. Sustaining a flow of supporting posts will encourage interest in the HashFast company and our products, which will lead to increased traffic on the HashFast website, and ultimately drive up purchases of HashFast equipment.

In order to achieve this goal, the HashFast support team member will be responsible for posting at least 1 – 2 supporting posts in each thread every day, or how ever many posts are deemed necessary to maintain a top position in the message board. Because we want to focus on the positive aspects of being a part of the Bitcoin community, verbal attacks by other forum members should only be met with immediate, persistent, reasoned, knowledgeable, and mature responses. Therefore, posts will be monitored to make sure that the language reflects the genuine nature and main objective of being a part of HashFast’s support team.

In exchange for your services, HashFast will keep the support team reasonably updated on engineering information, and any other valuable details, that can be used to enlighten forum participants. Compensation will be $15/hr for 10 hours per week – paid in silicon.

If you are interested in the position as a HashFast support team member, please contact us team@hashfast.com. Hope to hear from you soon.


Cheers,

HashFast Forum Liaison

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Interesting... we are keen to discuss getting sample chips to work on our boards if that is possible. The Wasp Project Cooperative together is more interested in some sort of arrangement.


At the time I was really focused on getting chips but thankfully that didn't pan out given the state of their project. I emailed them in attempts to get chips and nothing more.

Their posts announcing future announcements make sense now...
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January 19, 2014, 11:02:18 AM
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once you see details of their Miner Protection Plan and refund details all your fears will melt away.

Our groups fears were warranted in terms of considering any outlay of 100's of thousands of $'s for GN chips given what has happened. I feel awful another company has seen fit to soil the community yet again in this way. No company can recover from this sort of subterfuge and expect to be trusted. Paying people to bump threads... not a good idea and not worth your own reputation when it goes sideways.

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January 19, 2014, 11:12:24 AM
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Looks like that my wiki will soon have another page.

 Kiss

(was it from HashFast or HashFast_CL? [since that it's sent from HashFast but it signs as HashFast_CL, it's interesting] A screenshoot would be welcome)

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January 19, 2014, 11:59:09 AM
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Souls are cheap these days - $15 an hour in silicon.

The shills were also scammed for sure, as everything else HashBust is doing. I'm glad Cypherdoc is crying now all his shilling efforts were in vain.

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January 19, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
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Looks like that my wiki will soon have another page.

 Kiss

(was it from HashFast or HashFast_CL? [since that it's sent from HashFast but it signs as HashFast_CL, it's interesting] A screenshoot would be welcome)


Sure will accommodate you below.

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January 19, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
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Gotta news guys! Smiley

(i'm sorry for the guy/hf who removed the thread just one second after, for whatever reason it was, but i'm gonna share it anyway).

It starts with an email from Google:



That leads to an empty thread:



But the power of Google is unstoppable:



That leads us to:




As i told you, 550GH/chip.

Now shipping.

That, or it was a throwaway puppet from HF to prove that they are shipping, either way, they are or they want us to believe that they are shipping.

(and somehow they are too afraid to just tell us directly?)

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January 19, 2014, 12:52:58 PM
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Probably the most interesting thing is that he received them on a Saturday and that he is using the european server of pool, so he is probably from the Europe, that matches with the "i'm gonna out for a party".

Yet, the first one in the order chain with specifically 2 BJ is order #9, so if they started shipping following the order chain, US customers should have already reported them. It's interesting anyway.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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January 19, 2014, 01:42:08 PM
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Gotta news guys! Smiley

(i'm sorry for the guy/hf who removed the thread just one second after, for whatever reason it was, but i'm gonna share it anyway).

It starts with an email from Google:

good work!
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January 19, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
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Hmm, heavily cropped images, shil account. Anyone seen a picture like that of bjs though? The content doesn't look photoshopped together, not with the USB drives on top... But hf would be bouncing off the walls if they shipped anything, and not forcing people into refunds...
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January 19, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
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Probably the most interesting thing is that he received them on a Saturday and that he is using the european server of pool, so he is probably from the Europe, that matches with the "i'm gonna out for a party".

Yet, the first one in the order chain with specifically 2 BJ is order #9, so if they started shipping following the order chain, US customers should have already reported them. It's interesting anyway.

Heh, it's so obviously a shill account it's not even funny.  Who spends $50k worth of bitcoin on something worthless and is then happy about it to the point where they call people legitimately complaining "vile children" (and then deletes the post)

I basically called it on these guys as scammers as soon as they started asking for money - it started with that "gridfinity" guy asking for $500k up front with a plagiarized image of a Google data center, without specifying anything about the chips - not even their performance. Then, they switched to selling to the 'little guy' (easier scam target) their scam became super obvious, especially when they were claiming they would ship in October, but put the end of December in their TOS.

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January 19, 2014, 04:11:12 PM
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Hmm, heavily cropped images, shil account. Anyone seen a picture like that of bjs though? The content doesn't look photoshopped together, not with the USB drives on top... But hf would be bouncing off the walls if they shipped anything, and not forcing people into refunds...

why?

$-refunds are not a bad thing for HF at all. a delivered bj with additional mpp is valued way higher than those $ one could get from HF through refunds.

nevertheless i think its pretty obv that its a legal thing. most likely their laywers advised them to stay completly silent as every statement of them could be held against them in court.
so all they do is just shipping and not talking anymore.
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January 19, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
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Hmm, heavily cropped images, shil account. Anyone seen a picture like that of bjs though? The content doesn't look photoshopped together, not with the USB drives on top... But hf would be bouncing off the walls if they shipped anything, and not forcing people into refunds...

Not on  a retail sale preorder. Also, nobody signed that right away. They had an obligation to notify customers of the delay and offer refunds if requested, not put their own limits on those refunds. Read the FTC rules quoted oh so many times in this thread.

So which is it?  Forced Refunds or the The Law (tm)?  You can't have it both ways. Stop being a hypocrite.*


* Not just directed at RickJamesBTC, but everyone else who is picking and choosing to call it "Forced Refunds" when it suits your complaint and "The Law" when it doesn't.



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January 19, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
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Ok, i'm gonna give it a try.

Josh, did people who ordered paying with USD received a letter with a refund check?
Why the answer is not, and why it instead happened with people who ordered paying with BTC, regardless of whatever they asked for a refund or not?

Any clue?

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Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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