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Author Topic: PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)  (Read 785412 times)
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March 06, 2021, 10:01:08 PM
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Hello developers

I have a rig with 1070 and 1080Ti mixed. I have to use -straps 2 to get the correct hash from 1080Tis but when I do the rig crashes every 4 hours.

I separated the 1080tis to another machine and they work perfectly fine, no crashes in a week.

I have to out the 1080Ti back in the rig along with 1070s so I think the culprit is the -straps 2

Can -straps 2 be applied to only 2 cards out of 5?

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

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March 07, 2021, 02:57:05 AM
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hi guys Smiley
i am mining with some gtx 1060 6gb.
i was using claymore before, and i could set the clock mem etc.

when i try to do the same in phoenix, it gives error. it can mine, no problems, but at stock settings, and says unable to set clock delta etc.

what can i do to fix that?

also for a rig with 5 of gtx 1060 6gb, what should be the virtual memory amount on windows 10?

thanks

edit: it says error 137
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March 07, 2021, 03:37:31 AM
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hi guys Smiley
i am mining with some gtx 1060 6gb.
i was using claymore before, and i could set the clock mem etc.

when i try to do the same in phoenix, it gives error. it can mine, no problems, but at stock settings, and says unable to set clock delta etc.

what can i do to fix that?

also for a rig with 5 of gtx 1060 6gb, what should be the virtual memory amount on windows 10?

thanks

edit: it says error 137

I am not running any Nvidia cards, but I just happen to look at this today and my guess would be that Phoenixminer takes offsets for NV rather than direct values, i.e. from page 1:

-cclock <n> Set GPU core clock in MHz (0 for default). For Nvidia cards use relative values (e.g. -300 or +400)
-cvddc <n> Set GPU core voltage in mV (0 for default). For Nvidia cards use relative values (e.g. -300 or +400)
-mclock <n> Set GPU memory clock in MHz (0 for default)
-mvddc <n> Set GPU memory voltage in mV (0 for default)

Just a guess, but thought I'd chime in....
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March 07, 2021, 06:29:19 AM
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hi guys Smiley
i am mining with some gtx 1060 6gb.
i was using claymore before, and i could set the clock mem etc.

when i try to do the same in phoenix, it gives error. it can mine, no problems, but at stock settings, and says unable to set clock delta etc.

what can i do to fix that?

also for a rig with 5 of gtx 1060 6gb, what should be the virtual memory amount on windows 10?

thanks

edit: it says error 137

I am not running any Nvidia cards, but I just happen to look at this today and my guess would be that Phoenixminer takes offsets for NV rather than direct values, i.e. from page 1:

-cclock <n> Set GPU core clock in MHz (0 for default). For Nvidia cards use relative values (e.g. -300 or +400)
-cvddc <n> Set GPU core voltage in mV (0 for default). For Nvidia cards use relative values (e.g. -300 or +400)
-mclock <n> Set GPU memory clock in MHz (0 for default)
-mvddc <n> Set GPU memory voltage in mV (0 for default)

Just a guess, but thought I'd chime in....

thank you for your answer. and yes, i have it as a delta (-200 core +300 mems)
maybe should i decrease it less?
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March 07, 2021, 08:35:10 AM
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Hey guys,

What’s the status of Phoenix miner as of right now? Why was it dropped by nicehash? Should we stop mining on it? Is it risky? I haven’t seen anyone mention this but people are complaining about skimming andor under/over evaluating hashrate? Could someone shed a light on this

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March 07, 2021, 09:03:05 AM
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Please let me know what is wrong with my Bat file?

PhoenixMiner.exe -pool ssl://us2.ethermine.org:5555 -pool2 ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 -wal 0xbc1q6j7qjcljxke64m4p9p3tjxffc3g4pxavlpuwus.Rig001
pause

I'm getting :pool login failed: Invalid user provided" error
from the log:
2021.03.07:00:55:05.778: main Phoenix Miner 5.5c Windows/msvc - Release build
2021.03.07:00:55:05.778: main Cmd line: -pool ssl://us2.ethermine.org:5555 -pool2 ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 -wal 0xbc1q6j7qjcljxke64m4p9p3tjxffc3g4pxavlpuwus.Rig001
2021.03.07:00:55:05.778: main No CUDA driver found
2021.03.07:00:55:06.209: main OpenCL driver version: 21.1.1
2021.03.07:00:55:06.213: main Available GPUs for mining:
2021.03.07:00:55:06.213: main GPU1: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT (pcie 9), OpenCL 2.0, 16 GB VRAM, 40 CUs
2021.03.07:00:55:06.213: main ADL library initialized
2021.03.07:00:55:06.664: main Eth: Loading pools from epools.txt
2021.03.07:00:55:06.664: main Eth: the pool list contains 4 pools (2 from command-line)
2021.03.07:00:55:06.664: main Eth: primary pool: ssl://us2.ethermine.org:5555
2021.03.07:00:55:06.665: main Starting GPU mining
2021.03.07:00:55:06.665: main Matched GPU1 to ADL adapter index 0 (method 1)
2021.03.07:00:55:06.669: main GPU1: AMD driver 21.2.3
2021.03.07:00:55:06.669: main GPU1: Created ADL monitor for adapter 0; overdrive version: 8 (Cool
2021.03.07:00:55:06.669: main GPU1: using AMD driver ver 21.2.3
2021.03.07:00:55:06.791: wdog Starting watchdog thread
2021.03.07:00:55:07.034: main Eth: Connecting to ethash pool ssl://us2.ethermine.org:5555 (proto: EthProxy)
2021.03.07:00:55:07.034: main GPU1: 25C 0% 9W
GPUs power: 9.0 W
2021.03.07:00:55:07.055: eths Eth: Connected to SSL ethash pool us2.ethermine.org:5555 (2606:4700:90:0:5f75:d2fd:8cfe:d849)
2021.03.07:00:55:07.095: eths Eth: Send: {"id":1,"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"eth_submitLogin","worker":"eth1.0","params":["0xbc1q6j7qjcljxke64m4p9p3tjxffc3g4pxavlpuwus.Rig001"]}

2021.03.07:00:55:07.135: eths Eth: Received: {"id":999,"jsonrpc": "2.0","result": false,"error": "Invalid user provided"}
2021.03.07:00:55:07.135: eths Pool login failed: Invalid user provided
https://i.imgur.com/BsSulF9.png
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March 07, 2021, 09:16:49 AM
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mmmh what's happening here? https://twitter.com/NiceHashMining/status/1368481789325545473

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March 07, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
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That’s what i was wondering about. I have been using it for 2 weeks now and this happens. If originally installed from this thread is there an issue? No one is making a statement about this??
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March 07, 2021, 10:01:28 AM
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That sounds like nicehash downloaded a virus (the fake phoenix miner release) and included it in their packages?
I see no other reason for such panic.

I don't see anyone else except cudo and nicehash panicking about it.

Hope it's just lousy marketing stunt.


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March 07, 2021, 10:22:24 AM
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That sounds like nicehash downloaded a virus (the fake phoenix miner release) and included it in their packages?
I see no other reason for such panic.

I don't see anyone else except cudo and nicehash panicking about it.

Hope it's just lousy marketing stunt.


it has been long time there is no development from Phoenix.
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March 07, 2021, 10:42:40 AM
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https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/stop-using-phoenix-miner-immediately

NH press release.
We need some dev to look into this. If it is malicious, it might impact a lot of users in a bad way that mine on their main computers.
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March 07, 2021, 10:50:21 AM
Last edit: March 08, 2021, 01:16:00 PM by JFoxOne
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https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/stop-using-phoenix-miner-immediately

NH press release.
We need some dev to look into this. If it is malicious, it might impact a lot of users in a bad way that mine on their main computers.

The main question is who actually downloaded the phoenix miner from the unofficial sources and then included it in their nicehash software package for everyone to download? Answer: nicehash employees* Wink

So don't blame the Phoenix now as he is not here to defend himself. So far it has proven to be stable software so I'll keep using it myself.

Also, there is no proof it is malicious so I'd advise nicehash against spreading the fud based on a single fact that it was removed from Mega. Claymore was also removed from Mega and no one panicked about it.

I know they're working on their excavator and they don't need/want phoenix anymore, but that's not the way to handle such transition. Very unprofessional, classic nicehash.

Edit: *NiceHash later confirmed that they didn't add the malware to their software package. They however still didn't confirm or explain which checksum they've compared and where.


Edit 2: Matjaž "djeZo" Škorjanc stated that NiceHash will publicly apologise to Phoenix miner team, but still insisting that I'm spreading the FUD. I'm not. But I have to explain why I've posted this.

They are trying to turn their PR failure (or whatever it was) into FUD against NH lead by me, again to demonstrate they can attack anyone they want at any time with their massive outreach. Phoenix, Trex, ... me on the personal level or anyone else, even the media.

My statement was based on their official statements and unofficial comments made by their team members.

Now, here is why I was 100% sure that NiceHash has included unofficial miner to their package:

1) NiceHash dev suggesting extreme precautious regarding Phoenix miner although the last version was released in 25th January 2021.
2) NiceHash tweet suggesting extreme precautious - suggesting that this is a press-release worthy incident and retweet is needed so the largest possible amount of people outside NH will see this as well.
3) "Control shasum from new download locations does not match the value published by the developer on his channel!" While we all know that last Phoenix release was on 25th January 2021.
4) Matjaž (original founder of NiceHash) threatened me in private here on Bitcointalk to delete all my posts or else I will see the consequences.
5) They didn't provide the key information where did they get the software from; or if that software was actually used or not; or if it they used it only for shasum comparison purposes.
6) No other mining management system reported similar incident, so it must look like it happened only to NiceHash.

All that has summed up to make it clear for me that they did actually packed the software in their release. Otherwise it wouldn't be that urgent to tell all the people to immediately stop using the software and format their drives, move crypto wallets elsewhere, ... why else would they suggest that if they didn't push the .exe to user's computers by mistake? That was my only obvious conclusion. Then threats only made it more suspicious as it looked like they wanted to cover their tracks of their failure and bring all the storm upon Phoenix miner. Which we are using it for 3 years and we trust it.

All that said - I couldn't have assumed anything else than what I wrote. The drama started about 9:40 AM CET with their Tweet.


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March 07, 2021, 10:55:04 AM
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https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/stop-using-phoenix-miner-immediately

NH press release.
We need some dev to look into this. If it is malicious, it might impact a lot of users in a bad way that mine on their main computers.

The main question is who actually downloaded the phoenix miner from the unofficial sources and then included it in their nicehash software package for everyone to download? Answer: nicehash employees Wink

So don't blame the Phoenix now as he is not here to defend himself. So far it has proven to be stable software so I'll keep using it myself.

Also, there is no proof it is malicious so I'd advise nicehash against spreading the fud based on a single fact that it was removed from Mega. Claymore was also removed from Mega and no one panicked about it.

I know they're working on their excavator and they don't need/want phoenix anymore, but that's not the way to handle such transition. Very unprofessional, classic nicehash.

I agree with you. The only point I am a bit concerned is, that it is one thing to state there is a problem or a bug or some inconsistency, but a very different other thing, to advice users to reinstall their OS and consider all their data, wallets, logins compromised on PCs that ran phoenix. You know what I mean? It would be a bit insane to spread FUD on this level for marketing reasons.
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March 07, 2021, 11:03:40 AM
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My phoenix working normal nothing wrong, i remember once i downloaded wrong from other source then it began working on devfee really bad. i cleaned pc till then it was good lesson. it will be very sad if phoenix also will dissapear like claymore did, and it proofs that phoenix become from claymore because phoenix itself cant do more develops since claymore is gone. there was argue between claymore and phoenix who is from whom stealing.
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March 07, 2021, 11:08:36 AM
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https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/stop-using-phoenix-miner-immediately

NH press release.
We need some dev to look into this. If it is malicious, it might impact a lot of users in a bad way that mine on their main computers.

The main question is who actually downloaded the phoenix miner from the unofficial sources and then included it in their nicehash software package for everyone to download? Answer: nicehash employees Wink

So don't blame the Phoenix now as he is not here to defend himself. So far it has proven to be stable software so I'll keep using it myself.

Also, there is no proof it is malicious so I'd advise nicehash against spreading the fud based on a single fact that it was removed from Mega. Claymore was also removed from Mega and no one panicked about it.

I know they're working on their excavator and they don't need/want phoenix anymore, but that's not the way to handle such transition. Very unprofessional, classic nicehash.

I agree with you. The only point I am a bit concerned is, that it is one thing to state there is a problem or a bug or some inconsistency, but a very different other thing, to advice users to reinstall their OS and consider all their data, wallets, logins compromised on PCs that ran phoenix. You know what I mean? It would be a bit insane to spread FUD on this level for marketing reasons.

Well, nicehash is drawing such drastic conclusions based on only one fact - that it got deleted from Mega. Actually very frightening how far nicehash is willing to go without any malicious evidence/proof.

I'm not a very good crisis communicator myself, so I can't really judge them on their communication skills, but c'mon, they said "maintenance" while hack was happening years ago.
Now they're saying "delete everything", just because Mega deleted a hosted file and claiming that phoenix is trying to cover their tracks.

Are they serious? Totally dysfunctional company and management.

I'm out. But will follow how this unrolls.

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March 07, 2021, 11:55:35 AM
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Anybody got Nicehash installed?

Can you please ZIP the entire directory: C:\Users\<Your User>\AppData\Local\Programs\NiceHashMiner
Or just the miner if you can find it, and upload to MEGA, https://filebin.net or somewhere?

Let's find out what the hell NH did and what checksums they matched.
I'll also put the miner through some malware sandboxes.
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March 07, 2021, 12:07:23 PM
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Is it possible to control the speed of a fan connected to a PWM header? I have only 1 non-pwm header in my mobo which I would like to use with cpu fan.. can I like extend the non-pwm header with a hub or smth
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March 07, 2021, 12:12:36 PM
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Anybody got Nicehash installed?

Can you please ZIP the entire directory: C:\Users\<Your User>\AppData\Local\Programs\NiceHashMiner
Or just the miner if you can find it, and upload to MEGA, https://filebin.net or somewhere?

Let's find out what the hell NH did and what checksums they matched.
I'll also put the miner through some malware sandboxes.

Hi, created an account just to respond to this haha.
Not sure how helpful it will be but I have a NiceHash installation I last used in January this year just to compare it with mining Ethereum directly myself. It has up to PhoenixMiner 5.4c only.
If this is useful to you then let me know and I can try send it to you.
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March 07, 2021, 12:18:28 PM
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https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/stop-using-phoenix-miner-immediately

Well that would be something, wouldn't it.

If you look at HiveOS's miner distribution almost half (45%) is using Phoenix miner
https://hiveos.farm/statistics/

And a lot of miners are using simple/hive os to my knowledge. Heard neither of them nag.
If you look at the sheer volume of hashpower and the corresponding dev fees coming in next to the track record of phoenix, it's all a little far fetched IMHO.

So if the Dev was planning 'something malicious', wouldn't that be the same as shooting yourself in the foot?

As stated above, probably a way of scaring you into using their miner.
If you're so concerned with the safety of 'unsigned software'*  from an 'anonymous author', why include it in the first place.

*)Like signing software gives any guarantee that's not harmful in any way Wink

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March 07, 2021, 12:27:49 PM
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I am shocked because I used nicehash with phoenixminer until 9hrs ago  Shocked
still didn't know what's right, need more info.

I am using 5.5c phoenixminer, it report same speed between nicehash and ethermine.
but in nicehash I started getting rejected share from 2-3 days ago, idk why.

ready to upload mine if you guys need my file.
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