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Author Topic: PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)  (Read 785734 times)
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December 29, 2020, 07:28:14 AM
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I followed everything there, and I am still getting 10-13s

Running on Windows, can anyone confirm that they are getting 20+ on Windows?

You need to switch to Linux and you can get 25MH/s, for another day. Then maybe 22-23MHs or so. If you are using Windows the speed will even be much much worse especially the higher that the DAG goes because Windows need more GDDR cached used up, Linux uses much much less.

You really aren't missing out. Profits are "ok", with $0.10 power the most you make is like $0.70 a day. So unless you got tons of these GPUs in your farm, just not worth the hassle to learn how to use a new OS just to get 1 GPU running for another couple of weeks. Best is to try and found an 8GB varient of the RX 470 and buy that instead and then you would get your 30MH/s speed back and the GPU would be worth more.
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December 29, 2020, 08:42:43 AM
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What's your total hashrate and power consumption for this setup?
Can you share your logs I'm looking for better setup for 1080ti. I'm actually paying high electricity and trying to setup my rig for power efficient.

using -straps 2

https://ibb.co/GtgJ72B

It shows around 220w it seems your living on low electricity rate or living in free Electricity?

Anyway, I tried your setup but I only add few of them
Code:
-powlim -20
-straps 5
-nvNew 1
-Rmode 1

It increase my hashrate a bit with 41mh/s and power 150w. I just want to run my miner with less power consumption. I just want to make profit than losing due to high Electricity rate here in my country.

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December 29, 2020, 09:49:41 AM
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Hello,

I'm trying to mine with Ubuntu 20.04 and a RX470, but I have some problems installing the AMD drivers.

I tried different versions, but I got always some errors when the installer compiles the kernel module.

I run the installer with "amdgpu-pro-install -y".

Is there any tricks? I'm missing some packages? Is there any guide?

Thanks,
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December 29, 2020, 10:04:41 AM
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It increase my hashrate a bit with 41mh/s and power 150w. I just want to run my miner with less power consumption. I just want to make profit than losing due to high Electricity rate here in my country.

Isn't it too low for 1080ti?


BTW I have pair of 1060 (#1,2) and 1080 (not Ti, card #3), with the following config:

-nvdo 1 -nvKernel 0 -straps 4,4,5 -powlim -25 -cclock +135,+135,+130 -cvddc 0 -mclock +520,+525,+675 -mvddc 0

They give me approx:

1: 23.504 MH/s  2: 22.850 MH/s 3: 35.792 MH/s

with the following consumption reported by phoenix miner:

36C 30% 89W, GPU2: 38C 30% 89W, GPU3: 47C 30% 150W

Calymore miner was giving me about 24+ MH/s on 1060 and 38+ on 1080 (with pill). Is there any better settings I can do with PhoenixMiner?  
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December 29, 2020, 12:28:21 PM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?
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December 29, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?

No need pills for 1070
Without OC, you'll get 25MH/s
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December 29, 2020, 12:45:18 PM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?
I don't have 1070, but as per this forum as reported by other ppl it's about 32 Mh/s with oc
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December 29, 2020, 01:10:36 PM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?

I have an evga gtx 1070 ftw3 and I just tested here for you, it says 29mhs with overclock +110 core, memory +400, power limit 74, in the past as i remember used to be 31mhs with power limit 55. It seems that every dag closer or after 4gb the speed is reduced and reduced. So if for mining, I would not recommend this gpu, for gaming is great, I can play most games at 4k with low or medium visuals, this card is 4 years old, amazing.

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December 29, 2020, 02:55:54 PM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?

I have an evga gtx 1070 ftw3 and I just tested here for you, it says 29mhs with overclock +110 core, memory +400, power limit 74, in the past as i remember used to be 31mhs with power limit 55. It seems that every dag closer or after 4gb the speed is reduced and reduced. So if for mining, I would not recommend this gpu, for gaming is great, I can play most games at 4k with low or medium visuals, this card is 4 years old, amazing.

It's not quiet right about Nvidia cards speed decrease with every new DAG epoch IMHO. My 1060 and 1080 still showing 24/38 MH/s with claymore in contrast with phoenix miner, (22/36) tested just today.
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December 29, 2020, 03:05:43 PM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?

I have an evga gtx 1070 ftw3 and I just tested here for you, it says 29mhs with overclock +110 core, memory +400, power limit 74, in the past as i remember used to be 31mhs with power limit 55. It seems that every dag closer or after 4gb the speed is reduced and reduced. So if for mining, I would not recommend this gpu, for gaming is great, I can play most games at 4k with low or medium visuals, this card is 4 years old, amazing.

It's not quiet right about Nvidia cards speed decrease with every new DAG epoch IMHO. My 1060 and 1080 still showing 24/38 MH/s with claymore in contrast with phoenix miner, (22/36) tested just today.

There is a good explanation why this happens right here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.msg55250689#msg55250689

I talked with nvidia developer with many back and forth messages and the result of the 41 msg conversation is:

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Hi tytanick,

Below is the response from Engineering team -

We’ve confirmed that the performance drop is due to the size of the DAG exceeding the total on-chip TLB capacity on the Pascal GPU. As a result, there is an increased number of TLB misses, which affects performance. Because the TLB is a fixed capacity hardware resource, and the ETH algorithm accesses the DAG randomly, we don’t believe there are any software optimizations that could reduce the TLB miss rate.

In the Volta generation, TLB coverage was increased by 4x, and large DAG sizes (up to ~8GB, which won’t be reached for many years) will still fit in the on-chip TLB. So these newer GPUs (Volta and beyond) will show much less performance sensitivity due to DAG size.

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December 29, 2020, 03:16:39 PM
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There is a good explanation why this happens right here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.msg55250689#msg55250689


I just operate with facts, no offence. What I see is what I write, can post a screenshot.
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December 29, 2020, 08:23:32 PM
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From the last week till now i've got 15-20W more power consumption on each rig (amd windows/raveOS) most cards i have are 470, 580 8Gb cards. Is there a way to fix that?
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December 29, 2020, 08:52:13 PM
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I'm trying to mine with Ubuntu 20.04 and a RX470, but I have some problems installing the AMD drivers.
I tried different versions, but I got always some errors when the installer compiles the kernel module.

The latest Ubuntu kernel 5.4.0-58 breaks compiling the amdgpu-pro kernel modules (except for amdgpu-pro-20.45-1188099-ubuntu-20.04 , but that isn't supported by most mining software).

I downgraded my kernel to 5.4.0-42-generic and was then able to install the amdgpu 20.20 drivers without issue.
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December 29, 2020, 11:00:04 PM
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hello, in version 5.4c, what are the files EIO.dll and EIO.exe?
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December 30, 2020, 12:33:05 AM
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It increase my hashrate a bit with 41mh/s and power 150w. I just want to run my miner with less power consumption. I just want to make profit than losing due to high Electricity rate here in my country.

Isn't it too low for 1080ti?


BTW I have pair of 1060 (#1,2) and 1080 (not Ti, card #3), with the following config:

-nvdo 1 -nvKernel 0 -straps 4,4,5 -powlim -25 -cclock +135,+135,+130 -cvddc 0 -mclock +520,+525,+675 -mvddc 0

They give me approx:

1: 23.504 MH/s  2: 22.850 MH/s 3: 35.792 MH/s

with the following consumption reported by phoenix miner:

36C 30% 89W, GPU2: 38C 30% 89W, GPU3: 47C 30% 150W

Calymore miner was giving me about 24+ MH/s on 1060 and 38+ on 1080 (with pill). Is there any better settings I can do with PhoenixMiner?  

How about the reported hashrate for claymore?
Let me try claymore Im actually mining in phoenixminer with hiveos let me try if I can see some improvements switching to claymore. And I remember they stop developing this software since last year.

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December 30, 2020, 02:27:21 AM
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What's your total hashrate and power consumption for this setup?
Can you share your logs I'm looking for better setup for 1080ti. I'm actually paying high electricity and trying to setup my rig for power efficient.

using -straps 2

https://ibb.co/GtgJ72B

It shows around 220w it seems your living on low electricity rate or living in free Electricity?

Anyway, I tried your setup but I only add few of them
Code:
-powlim -20
-straps 5
-nvNew 1
-Rmode 1

It increase my hashrate a bit with 41mh/s and power 150w. I just want to run my miner with less power consumption. I just want to make profit than losing due to high Electricity rate here in my country.

wow, nice power consumption
how about your share ?
Can you share your logs ??
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December 30, 2020, 06:16:08 AM
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I am using Phoenix Miner 5.4C and monitoring with Claymore's Miner Manager 4.0.

Phoenix Miner /  Claymore is reporting a total GPU Power of around 3,798 watts @ 1,372 MH/S. The 3090 card is reported as using 0 WATTS because of the Nvidia Driver. It is using about 272 watts. So total watts for the GPUs would be around 4,070 watts.

I know 3 rigs (+/- 1,203.57 mh/s) are using a combined power of around 5,000 -  5,250 watts as reported by the UPS devices they are connected to. Claymore is reporting 3,583 GPU watts. 5,250 - 3,583 = 1,667 watts for motherboard, fans, cpu, SSD etc.

1,667 watts / 3 = 555.66 watts per rig. That's bogus. The CPU, rig fans etc. are not using that much power. The power supplies are all gold rated EVGA. Two rigs have 2 x 1000 watt and 2x 750 watts PSUs and one rig has 1x1600 watt, 2x 100 watt and 1x750 watts PSUs. Is that much power getting wasted through the power supplies?
 
3 other computers with single cards in them are perhaps using another 150-200 watts each so let's say another 500 watts combined. Total power usage is on average around 6,600 watts but could go up a bit if many TVS are on, the furnace fan kicks in or the Microwave is used.

I just feel that Phoenix / Claymore is not reporting the GPU watts correctly. Perhaps the RX580 cards are under reported?

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December 30, 2020, 07:19:46 AM
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Yesterday my Radeon VII ETH hashrate was dropped from 91MH to 86MH and still keep low on nicehash. Eth become more hungry for GPU performance than before?
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December 30, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
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Yesterday my Radeon VII ETH hashrate was dropped from 91MH to 86MH and still keep low on nicehash. Eth become more hungry for GPU performance than before?

Yes - I'm seeing the same on my Radeon VII rig - about an 8% reduction in hashrate
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December 30, 2020, 09:43:43 AM
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Guys, how much MHs of hashrate should i expect with Phoenix miner for single Gtx 1070 gpu without overclocking and memory pills?

I have an evga gtx 1070 ftw3 and I just tested here for you, it says 29mhs with overclock +110 core, memory +400, power limit 74, in the past as i remember used to be 31mhs with power limit 55. It seems that every dag closer or after 4gb the speed is reduced and reduced. So if for mining, I would not recommend this gpu, for gaming is great, I can play most games at 4k with low or medium visuals, this card is 4 years old, amazing.
Yeah agree with you. my 1070 gaming x was doing 33mhs easy now im lucky on 31.5mhs. gaminx uses too much power like 160-170w.i never increased core, instead i used -100 memory +600 pow 75
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