Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013

[jspielberg]

It seems bad form to hawk your new wares in a letter detailing the issues and problems with your current products.

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[A Meteorite]

Unit Batches
Batch three have completely left our hands, may DHL be swift in their deliveries. The refunds will shortly follow, this is the same for any tradein orders ( ran into issues such as some people were receiving their address to pay while other are not). we understand we are very late in this department of processing any customer support related issue, we will not be making any excuses, but this is literally the only thing left on our plate now. In the future we hope to eliminate this problem by selling only in stock products that will ship in under 3 days.
On the horizon are two new product designs, we are fairly happy with the batch 3 design, which will conclude as the Avalon Version 1 final design. In addition we will have a new 2 module unit coming to market and a 2U 17inch deep server blade slated as Avalon Version 2.

[snip]

Why can't you begin processing refunds now? Why didn't you start them weeks ago? It's not like you're personally assembling Batch 3 units and you already know which units to withhold from shipping. Please tell us concretely when you will being processing refunds. Most of us have plans for the Bitcoins that you have tied up and are unable to execute those plans while you hold them. We are missing potential investments everyday you hold them.

[Ytterbium]

China Customs website if anyone wants to try and contact them:

http://english.customs.gov.cn/tabid/47800/Default.aspx

I doubt that's a good idea.

Anyway, I wonder why they didn't have them shipped out directly from Taiwan. I guess they didn't anticipate this problem.

[eve]

and what the fuck where is Steamboat, Sebastian and Zefir who enticed and solicited or whore us into their group buy, these fuckers already made a good profits, we the one in the group buy are the ones who suffers. Where are there?? can we get a REFUND from our group buy.    They are keeping very quiet   When they need us they will show up their face. Stay Clear from these guys in their future group buy. NO MORE GROUP BUY.

[SoggyLettuce]

China Customs website if anyone wants to try and contact them:

http://english.customs.gov.cn/tabid/47800/Default.aspx

I doubt that's a good idea.

Anyway, I wonder why they didn't have them shipped out directly from Taiwan. I guess they didn't anticipate this problem.

Or it's a straight up lie

[redbeans2012]

Did anyone miss the fact that he pretty much was saying the WSJ story was true? or am I reading that wrong (shrug)

[SoggyLettuce]

and what the fuck where is Steamboat, Sebastian and Zefir who enticed and solicited or whore us into their group buy, these fuckers already made a good profits, we the one in the group buy are the ones who suffers. Where are there?? can we get a REFUND from our group buy.    They are keeping very quiet   When they need us they will show up their face. Stay Clear from these guys in their future group buy. NO MORE GROUP BUY.

You are angry at the wrong people. Avalon hasn't delivered. How the fuck are the groupbuys going to do anything about that numskull?

[erk]

and what the fuck where is Steamboat, Sebastian and Zefir who enticed and solicited or whore us into their group buy, these fuckers already made a good profits, we the one in the group buy are the ones who suffers. Where are there?? can we get a REFUND from our group buy.    They are keeping very quiet   When they need us they will show up their face. Stay Clear from these guys in their future group buy. NO MORE GROUP BUY.

You are angry at the wrong people. Avalon hasn't delivered. How the fuck are the groupbuys going to do anything about that numskull?

eve = troll = ignore list

[augustocroppo]

WTF?

Lads, this is not news, or should I say, this is old news? Look at the date of this article:

http://bitcoinjim.com/jz

Avalon ASIC & miner news from Bitcoin 2013 San Jose
Submitted by btcjim on Sun, 05/19/2013 - 18:09
Some of Buttefly labs' display at Bitcoin 2013
(All of this is only hearsay, so take it as such...)

From "stuff heard at Bitcoin 2013" thread, some news regarding Yifu Guo of Avalon, their delays, and more.  Highlights:

Avalon Gen II hardware will be based upon 55nm chip technology (we can make presumptions in speed & efficiency based on this info)
Avalon Batches 2 & 3 will be fully shipped soon, once their SMT machine is up and running properly, producing 50 units / day
Avalon's SMT machine was held in customs which explains the delay for Batch 2 (& 3)
Left the door open for another batch of hardware, but seemed to indicate Avalon would be focusing on manufacturing chips for now

[SoggyLettuce]

It seems bad form to hawk your new wares in a letter detailing the issues and problems with your current products.

1000 times this. And the best thing is they didn't give us any useful information on the current chips.

[MinermanNC]

Oh come on, I expected more conspiracy theories as to why and how Avalon chips are being made available on Alibaba. Pay off? Stolen chips? Employee theft under duress (threat or kidnapping)?

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=A3256-Q48

Oh those are just some of the chips held up in customs for a couple more weeks,,,not to worry. 

[Unacceptable]

and what the fuck where is Steamboat, Sebastian and Zefir who enticed and solicited or whore us into their group buy, these fuckers already made a good profits, we the one in the group buy are the ones who suffers. Where are there?? can we get a REFUND from our group buy.    They are keeping very quiet   When they need us they will show up their face. Stay Clear from these guys in their future group buy. NO MORE GROUP BUY.

You are angry at the wrong people. Avalon hasn't delivered. How the fuck are the groupbuys going to do anything about that numskull?

Exactly.................

[bystander]

Did anyone miss the fact that he pretty much was saying the WSJ story was true? or am I reading that wrong (shrug)

He's just trying to have folks think there's a deal when there's probably nothing in place.  

He says there's an NDA in place.  Then makes a reference to Amsterdam and then TSMC...  tells you to fill in the blanks.   What's funny is that Ms. Sun of TMSC told one user is they don't know about BitSynCom at all and perhaps they may have been dealing with an alliance company of theirs.

[really]

Just as this matter is reaching its closure. WSJ prints an mashed article consists of rumors, opinions and pieces of various stories. Avalon whilst under NDA(s) are unable to comment on all aspect of the story. We will however state the following: We were indeed in Amsterdam on Tuesday and had a meeting with TSMC and we will leave it at that for now.
We would also like to take this chance to properly restate that Avalon will from this day going forward will no longer be participating in any form of pre-order, pre-sale type of business operations.

http://www.avalon-asics.com/

[Stack]

Don't worry, the groupbuy leaders will come out swinging, just legally, not angrily.

And I for one, will throw down what cash i can to support the hiring of lawyers, if my group decides to go that way.

I'm hoping by now an investigation has already begun

[ionstorm]

Just as this matter is reaching its closure. WSJ prints an mashed article consists of rumors, opinions and pieces of various stories. Avalon whilst under NDA(s) are unable to comment on all aspect of the story. We will however state the following: We were indeed in Amsterdam on Tuesday and had a meeting with TSMC and we will leave it at that for now.
We would also like to take this chance to properly restate that Avalon will from this day going forward will no longer be participating in any form of pre-order, pre-sale type of business operations.

http://www.avalon-asics.com/

WHAT THE FUCK? WERE FUCKED!

[erk]

Oh come on, I expected more conspiracy theories as to why and how Avalon chips are being made available on Alibaba. Pay off? Stolen chips? Employee theft under duress (threat or kidnapping)?

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=A3256-Q48

Do you really believe all the people that placed early bulk ordered were going to make boards with the chips?

Scalpers are in on everything nowadays.

[eve]

and what the fuck where is Steamboat, Sebastian and Zefir who enticed and solicited or whore us into their group buy, these fuckers already made a good profits, we the one in the group buy are the ones who suffers. Where are there?? can we get a REFUND from our group buy.    They are keeping very quiet   When they need us they will show up their face. Stay Clear from these guys in their future group buy. NO MORE GROUP BUY.

You are angry at the wrong people. Avalon hasn't delivered. How the fuck are the groupbuys going to do anything about that numskull?

eve = troll = ignore list

These group buys troll trying to cover up their rear end . The majority of the chips purchase was done through group buys. Now refund your bitcoin to those in your group buy.

[HorseRider]

It's already 11:21 AM, on 8/9 in Shenzhen!

You know how it is - you've been on a long plane flight - you've been drinking free booze all flight in first class - you get back in front of your computer you've not been near for weeks due to partying, whoring and boozing in Vegas, and it's like
"Hmm PMs and emails while I've been away ... oh well, guess I better say something before I pass out so I can ignore that crap for another week ..."
Wakes up the next morning ... oh crap I said "tomorrow" in the post ... oh well no one will notice anything different if I do nothing for a few days, they're used to that from me, and I am only a PR guy, not like I know anything about hardware or software and have control over anything except delaying deliveries ... ... ...

don't you got better things to do like writing code mr. software engineer than waste time with some first-class-riding booze-drinking "pr guy" like me?

anyhow, update is live on main page. http://avalon-asics.com

fuck you fat ass, shipping the orders on time or say something about compensation for the loss.

[dan99]

Everyone stay Calm and Cool while we wait for an Official  Respond and Reply from Avalon / BitSyncom and Yifu. However it may be Good or Buy or somewhere in the middle. They guy is typing and preparing his reply.