Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[ChuckBuck]

Don't mean to draw this out anymore, but proof of a completed miner please?

Who said anything about a completed miner? We are talking about specs which have been tested.

Which part of my comparison do you disagree with? Or are you just disagreeing for the fun of it?

If it's not shipping in a week or less, it's pixie dust, simple as that.  

Has Dogie or one of the BCT community reviewed these units yet?

You have a link to a completed miner?  Minion asics are out, but no fully assembled or completed miner yet.

Not disagreeing for the fun, just answer the question.  Where's these miners you speak of?

Can't talk about benefits or advantages in theoretical land, no?

[jimmothy]

However hashratio is shipping now for half the price of spondoolies or blackarrow.

Link please?  A search of the entire forum for "hashratio" yields 2 posts - one of them yours.  The apparent web site www.hashratio.com announces only pre-sales.  If Hashratio is actually selling product, would love to see specs, reviews and sale links please.  Not a troll - I really am interested if its true.

CEOs blog:
http://weibo.cn/zhaodong1982

Hashratio has hardware in hand. Lightningasic is reselling for $1.5/gh (no psu) and hashratio $1.4/gh or for 200+ units as low as $1/gh (not sure if this is exact)

You would probably have to email hashratio directly to order.

[jimmothy]

Don't mean to draw this out anymore, but proof of a completed miner please?

Who said anything about a completed miner? We are talking about specs which have been tested.

Which part of my comparison do you disagree with? Or are you just disagreeing for the fun of it?

If it's not shipping in a week or less, it's pixie dust, simple as that.  

Has Dogie or one of the BCT community reviewed these units yet?

You have a link to a completed miner?  Minion asics are out, but no fully assembled or completed miner yet.

Not disagreeing for the fun, just answer the question.  Where's these miners you speak of?

Can't talk about benefits or advantages in theoretical land, no?

There is nothing theoretical about their minion tested to be overclockable to 120gh and draw up to 0.7w/gh at the wall. Nor is there anything theoretical about the psus they are using. Nor is there anything theoretical about the 1.25u case being a gimmick.

This guy was saying we should all cancel our preorders (which we all acknowledge do not exist yet) and I simply disagree with his reasons.

[ChuckBuck]

Don't mean to draw this out anymore, but proof of a completed miner please?

Who said anything about a completed miner? We are talking about specs which have been tested.

Which part of my comparison do you disagree with? Or are you just disagreeing for the fun of it?

If it's not shipping in a week or less, it's pixie dust, simple as that.  

Has Dogie or one of the BCT community reviewed these units yet?

You have a link to a completed miner?  Minion asics are out, but no fully assembled or completed miner yet.

Not disagreeing for the fun, just answer the question.  Where's these miners you speak of?

Can't talk about benefits or advantages in theoretical land, no?

There is nothing theoretical about their minion tested to be overclockable to 120gh and draw up to 0.7w/gh at the wall. Nor is there anything theoretical about the psus they are using. Nor is there anything theoretical about the 1.25u case being a gimmick.

This guy was saying we should all cancel our preorders (which we all acknowledge do not exist yet) and I simply disagree with his reasons.

Where do you see all this?  I don't see this in Dogie's Comprehensive Black Arrow X-3 Setup anywhere, do you?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355387.0

Haven't seen Dogie review the X-3 like he did the SP-10, , the NonceTech Sampo, the Technobit HEX16B, the Avalon 2, the Bitmain Antminer S2, the KNC Saturn/Jupiter, the.................

Yea it's not on the list yet, don't see where you're getting those specs from.

[sorehammer]

jimmothy sorry but the x3 does not exist until the unit is put together and run with all components the other machines exists and are running, Having the minion running at 120 is great but that does not constitute a running machine.

[raskul]

David has posted that he will be giving us an update today and he is preparing it now, so expect it any time. This is coming from ecointalk as of this morning.

"we are having stability issues"

 

[y_boonstra]

David has posted that he will be giving us an update today and he is preparing it now, so expect it any time. This is coming from ecointalk as of this morning.

"we are having stability issues"

 

LOL

[me2014]

David has posted that he will be giving us an update today and he is preparing it now, so expect it any time. This is coming from ecointalk as of this morning.

"we are having stability issues"

 

and customers have stability issues too!!!!

[Dot99lr]

At this point in time, the engineer's job should be done. And there should be only discussions with the packing and shipping department.

[rokshis]

After waiting for very long time, about 2-3 months, I atleast have received my refund for my prospero x-3 trough wire payment. I can guarantee you guys, that minersource is trusted, safe and serious company and that they are issuing refunds, just you might have to wait, until you will get your money back. They sent me back every single penny. A big vouch for them 

[david105396]

I will be up to 3 or 4 AM to get things done, and waking up early again. Nobody can not have any sleep at all for weeks.

[CryptoGuy]

Well they had a working chip hashing away on the X3 backplane which to me made me think that they were close. Now it's a couple weeks later, I can't help but think they ran into something unforeseen and are now looking for a solution before they give us an update.

I'm also wondering why they are still showing the RPi in all the testing photos, what happened with the custom controller you were working on?

[emkay47]

At this rate they're working 'round the clock to make absolutely certain that the KNC Neptune ships first!

Obviously BA will be shipping out before Neptune . We haven't even seen the 20NM's from KnC yet . They told us i guess a month back that they will be receiving their chips that week . They still have not received them . We have not seen the case or the PCB or anything of Neptune yet .

I think BA and KnC both should get their shit together ASAP . KnC have already lost a lot of their Neptune customers , i guess 80% of them have refunded their orders or either converted them to Super Joops or Titans . I think the remaining rest will also be refunding their orders if we don't see a good update soon .

[fivejonnyfive]

After waiting for very long time, about 2-3 months, I atleast have received my refund for my prospero x-3 trough wire payment. I can guarantee you guys, that minersource is trusted, safe and serious company and that they are issuing refunds, just you might have to wait, until you will get your money back. They sent me back every single penny. A big vouch for them  

Hi did you manage to communicate your refund request with them?

I have never gotten through every time I tried to call them on their english number. I stayed late to adjust the time difference and call them during their working hours. It seems that no one picks up that number.

I'm considering refund now but I'm afraid I may not be able to communicate with them properly at all.

I mean to clarify, I'm pretty sure rokshis got his refund from Minersource, the US reseller.

People who have recently requested refunds from black arrow directly have been told "we cannot refund you because we've already started building the unit."

Welcome to the Queue.

[5craziest]

After waiting for very long time, about 2-3 months, I atleast have received my refund for my prospero x-3 trough wire payment. I can guarantee you guys, that minersource is trusted, safe and serious company and that they are issuing refunds, just you might have to wait, until you will get your money back. They sent me back every single penny. A big vouch for them  

Hi did you manage to communicate your refund request with them?

I have never gotten through every time I tried to call them on their english number. I stayed late to adjust the time difference and call them during their working hours. It seems that no one picks up that number.

I'm considering refund now but I'm afraid I may not be able to communicate with them properly at all.

The English line is transferred to Hong Kong.  If it's picked up, you'll get someone who doesn't speak English well enough to help you.

[HardwareReviewer]

Anyone who ever managed to get a BA support representative on the phone (any stated number)?

[F2C]

They are using our miners !!   

[Pistachio]

They are using our miners !!  

This is a concern because they are not shipping the PSUs when they already explained that they have to ship them separately. It would be beneficial if BA explained why they are not shipping the PSUs. Customers are tempted to only think the worst of you when you do not give us any information. All we know is that you have manufactured boards, have the PSUs in stock, and are not shipping anything. What else do you expect us to believe? So, should we believe that you are more like BFL or Avalon?

[Dot99lr]

Another day in China has come and gone, and no word from them. Unbelievable.

[sorehammer]

I'm also thinking they are mining with our paid for units.