Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[fivejonnyfive]

So ready to hear from Bobsag today that all of the boxes have arrived safe and sound and that the testing is underway and they will be reshipped today overnight for delivery tomorrow!  That would seriously be almost better news than my now fiancee saying yes to my proposal last Friday

Off topic, but congrats dude!

[ChuckBuck]

So ready to hear from Bobsag today that all of the boxes have arrived safe and sound and that the testing is underway and they will be reshipped today overnight for delivery tomorrow!  That would seriously be almost better news than my now fiancee saying yes to my proposal last Friday

Off topic, but congrats dude!

Indeed, congrats Debit on your upcoming nuptials!   

Back on topic, should we expect both Minersource Batch 1 and 2 X-1 orders to arrive sometime this week, or is it most likely next week?

[3DX4D]

Its all out for delivery, so we should have here in a few hours.

WHOOP WHOOP! Totally psyched!

Yes very exciting in deed.  Personally I can't wait to get my now useless miners that will ROI exactly never.  It's even more exciting as I asked several times via email and in person (met Dan at the BTC Expo in Toronto) over the last few months for a refund.  Not a single email to support was returned and although Dan did communicate with me via email after the Expo and indicated he would personally make sure my refund was taken care of I was never contacted).  I was told by Dan someone from Minersource team would contact me and assured me a refund would take place.  I have not received contact from MS and was never refunded.  While chatting with nicely with Dan at the TO Expo I told him I paid in BTC.  His response was that they could not refund in BTC but would have to do a USD refund, which I was OK with

I ordered 4 X-1's in late Nov or early Dec 2013, started asking for a refund as soon as they announced missing the late Feb delivery date.

Over all I would have to say I'm a disappointed customer of Miner Source, I do understand they don't control the manufacturing process but I had a sales contract with Miner Source to deliver a retail product I don't have a sales contract with BA.  I have been patient, polite and reasonable mostly because 4 X-1's isn't worth me getting all bent out of shape over.

Lesson learned on my part for sure, I will simply wait for the now essentially useless unwanted hardware at this point.  

I am out of the mining race to the bottom for now.  I will continue to hold (and hopefully buy up some more) coins.  I would like to mine but centralized large scale mining seems to be the way of the future, if big business is here, little Joe's like me are better off not playing.  I hope I'm wrong and if I am I will happily mine again.

[CryptoGuy]

I like how BA hasn't bothered to lower the price of their miners even as other manufacturers drop their prices and release new miners. $373 for 100gh was barely a good deal back in December. I sense it's just another way of them manipulating their compensation. I just can't see anyone buying those in the last month thinking it's a good deal. Maybe that's why they don't want to talk compensation, they probably haven't had any more money roll in since they got people to pre-order their compensation power supplies.

No money coming in means no money to build compensation units. If they lower the price to get more people to buy in then their compensation numbers go up even higher as they promised to send extra hashing power if they lowered the price.

[tuaris]

I like how BA hasn't bothered to lower the price of their miners even as other manufacturers drop their prices and release new miners. $373 for 100gh was barely a good deal back in December. I sense it's just another way of them manipulating their compensation. I just can't see anyone buying those in the last month thinking it's a good deal. Maybe that's why they don't want to talk compensation, they probably haven't had any more money roll in since they got people to pre-order their compensation power supplies.

No money coming in means no money to build compensation units. If they lower the price to get more people to buy in then their compensation numbers go up even higher as they promised to send extra hashing power if they lowered the price.

Yes, I have been saving my 0.012 BTC income per day since December thinking that sometime in February I would be able to buy one or two.  I now have plenty to buy 3 or 4 at it's current price, but I'm not going to spend it on this.  If they don't drop the price (or the S3 is overpriced) I might instead continue saving until the Fall when Bitcoin is $2000+ USD and when the 100 TH stuff comes out. 

[ORabbit]

I like how BA hasn't bothered to lower the price of their miners even as other manufacturers drop their prices and release new miners. $373 for 100gh was barely a good deal back in December. I sense it's just another way of them manipulating their compensation. I just can't see anyone buying those in the last month thinking it's a good deal. Maybe that's why they don't want to talk compensation, they probably haven't had any more money roll in since they got people to pre-order their compensation power supplies.

No money coming in means no money to build compensation units. If they lower the price to get more people to buy in then their compensation numbers go up even higher as they promised to send extra hashing power if they lowered the price.

Yep. Despite all the accusations, I don't see a scam. I see a company that severely underestimated the scale of this project. They made certain promises that I'm sure they intended to keep, but now they're just f'ed. If they lower the price to encourage new money, they'll have to extend that savings to orders placed in November, thereby canceling out the new money. If they allocate all their resources to a fair compensation for existing customers, they have no product to sell to new customers. It's a catch 22, and everyone's left holding the bag.

[nexus99]

I don't see a scam either. Just many huge screw ups. These guys aren't like BFL.

[Syke]

I don't see a scam either. Just many huge screw ups. These guys aren't like BFL.

It's getting close. While BA is shipping the X-1 about 4 months late, BFL is over 7 months late. At least BA is shipping something. BFL is shipping nothing. BA needs to get the X-3 out the door, and come clean on the compensation package ASAP.

[sorehammer]

Come on bobsag3 we want pictures of lots of boxes to lust over.

[nexus99]

I don't see a scam either. Just many huge screw ups. These guys aren't like BFL.

It's getting close. While BA is shipping the X-1 about 4 months late, BFL is over 7 months late. At least BA is shipping something. BFL is shipping nothing. BA needs to get the X-3 out the door, and come clean on the compensation package ASAP.

+1 on compensation package.
If reports are correct X-1 will be in the wild today. No compensation package details I have seen though.


It would be interesting for someone to take the BA chips and stick them on a blade that is compatible with the S3/S1 frame. Maybe get 4 of them on a blade? For a 900 GH/S S3 form factor box.

I wonder if the chips run too hot for that though.

[bobsag3]

I don't see a scam either. Just many huge screw ups. These guys aren't like BFL.

It's getting close. While BA is shipping the X-1 about 4 months late, BFL is over 7 months late. At least BA is shipping something. BFL is shipping nothing. BA needs to get the X-3 out the door, and come clean on the compensation package ASAP.

+1 on compensation package.
If reports are correct X-1 will be in the wild today. No compensation package details I have seen though.


It would be interesting for someone to take the BA chips and stick them on a blade that is compatible with the S3/S1 frame. Maybe get 4 of them on a blade? For a 900 GH/S S3 form factor box.

I wonder if the chips run too hot for that though.

4 chips would only give off ~ 380W of heat, so would be entirely doable.

[nexus99]

I don't see a scam either. Just many huge screw ups. These guys aren't like BFL.

It's getting close. While BA is shipping the X-1 about 4 months late, BFL is over 7 months late. At least BA is shipping something. BFL is shipping nothing. BA needs to get the X-3 out the door, and come clean on the compensation package ASAP.

+1 on compensation package.
If reports are correct X-1 will be in the wild today. No compensation package details I have seen though.


It would be interesting for someone to take the BA chips and stick them on a blade that is compatible with the S3/S1 frame. Maybe get 4 of them on a blade? For a 900 GH/S S3 form factor box.

I wonder if the chips run too hot for that though.

4 chips would only give off ~ 380W of heat, so would be entirely doable.

Wouldn't that be an awesome upgrade. Or modular expansion.

[sorehammer]

So has the ups/dhl guy been yet ?

[sorehammer]

I know but it was worth a try

[sorehammer]

I got a rockminer sitting in customs for the last 24hrs why do people keep making me wait.

[sorehammer]

lucky sod so jealous

[bobsag3]

I got a rockminer sitting in customs for the last 24hrs why do people keep making me wait.

Shoulda bought it from us

X1s wer just delivered

Setting them up for testing, pictures to follow.





To confirm: These are complete working X1s, minus the LCD. They have the customer controller and everything.

[sorehammer]

Not a issue of who I got it from customs are being a real bitch lately

[nexus99]

I got a rockminer sitting in customs for the last 24hrs why do people keep making me wait.

Shoulda bought it from us

X1s wer just delivered

Setting them up for testing, pictures to follow.

That's what I was hoping to hear!

[Dallas5]

Now that there are actual X1's being shipped any estimate of a refund date for those of us opted for a refund?