Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Ren13B]

Do you know if it is all of batch 1 or just a partial shipment?

Bobsag, any movements on the shipments? Any ETA? Thanks

https://i.imgur.com/ByPVyXC.png

Based on previous DHL speed, Wednesday-Friday this week. Most likely Thursday. I always find strange DHL never tells you estimated delivery date.

[DisappointedMiner]

EDIT: completely misread the email from minersource

[bobsag3]

Do you know if it is all of batch 1 or just a partial shipment?

Bobsag, any movements on the shipments? Any ETA? Thanks

Based on previous DHL speed, Wednesday-Friday this week. Most likely Thursday. I always find strange DHL never tells you estimated delivery date.

Partial shipment.

[y_boonstra]

Do you know if it is all of batch 1 or just a partial shipment?

Bobsag, any movements on the shipments? Any ETA? Thanks

Based on previous DHL speed, Wednesday-Friday this week. Most likely Thursday. I always find strange DHL never tells you estimated delivery date.

Partial shipment.

So they have decieved you 2.

[bobsag3]

Do you know if it is all of batch 1 or just a partial shipment?

Bobsag, any movements on the shipments? Any ETA? Thanks

Based on previous DHL speed, Wednesday-Friday this week. Most likely Thursday. I always find strange DHL never tells you estimated delivery date.

Partial shipment.

So they have decieved you 2.

No, I was never told all of batch 1 was on this shipment. I was told this was the first of many regular shipments until orders fulfilled.

[sticky]

^ Those are X-3's, right?! 

[HardwareReviewer]

IF you are serious, I'll take you up on the 100 ASICS for one X3 and 42 ASICS for seven X1s. I still firmly believe Blackarrow has no intention of delivering miners to their direct customers, but you are welcome to prove me wrong.  

Order #234 and #721.

Orders cannot be taken via public forums. Please contact our customer support and we'll dispatch your order tomorrow.

Regards!

and refunds take months.

Regards!

PM with your ticket number in which you request the exchange and you'll get them shipped tomorrow.

Blackarrow, I thought you were shipping the minions the same day or next day? One full day has passed and I haven't even got a response yet...

[nexus99]

I am going to try the waters with converting 4 x-1 units into 3 technobit boards.  Wish me luck!

[primer10]

Don't pre-order kids  

[Scrappy Do]

I am going to try the waters with converting 4 x-1 units into 3 technobit boards.  Wish me luck!

 Brother I am with ya. I am swapping 2 x3's as we speak. I had to get a loan for the $13k conversion to 200 chips. But then, I bought 4th/s and they made it 6th/s and now with the chips and additional money, its 25 th/s. This seems good to me.. am I wrong?

[bobsag3]

We will probably end up trying a watercooled system using PC parts due to the socket size... should at least look cool!

[nexus99]

I am going to try the waters with converting 4 x-1 units into 3 technobit boards.  Wish me luck!

 Brother I am with ya. I am swapping 2 x3's as we speak. I had to get a loan for the $13k conversion to 200 chips. But then, I bought 4th/s and they made it 6th/s and now with the chips and additional money, its 25 th/s. This seems good to me.. am I wrong?

25 th/s doesn't sound bad to me. A loan for 13k to do it doesn't sound too good though. Good luck!  Is that like 4x 30 amp 208 circuits to power it all?

[nexus99]

We will probably end up trying a watercooled system using PC parts due to the socket size... should at least look cool!

Are there are quad head water coolers out there? That might be interesting.

[Scrappy Do]

Do the Marto boards run off of CGMiner or do they use that weird Hex miner stuff?

cgminer
the image for TP-link and patch are already available on our website

 Marto. Do you think these boards would be fine to be submerged in mineral oil? I just requested bob send my 200 chips to you and looking for an easy way to cool them. Also, I think if I am reading this right, you install a generic heatsink? If so, will that be enough if they are are submerged?

(Licking my chops for 25 th/s)

Scrap'

I've built a few oil cooled PC's in my extreme overclocking days.

As long as your thermal load calcs are right you'll be fine. You'll want SOME kind of heatsink on it to allow the oil to cool it easier (more surface area n all that)

Do your themal load calc (should be online resources, that's where I found mine), then add oil, small pond pump (circulation), Isolator plate for the temp difference, peltier coolers, cold side in oil, hot side with box fan,.. done. Temp monitor with SMS alert, then Chill till the pump eventually dies/freezes then replace. Putting the pump RIGHT on the center of the hot zone should keep it alive longer and a pond pump may not die as easily (we used aquarium pumps)

 Thank you for this post my friend, as the only other response tried to make me feel like a noob. I too know that a heatsink must be installed for the oil to work. A raw chip can work providing the fluid is ample.  But the fluid needed to cool a raw chip is insane. If you have a mere heatsink on it, it will disperse much better in air or oil. Oil has the benefit of saturation. 100x1 factor.

 Am I on the right page my friend?

[bobsag3]

We will probably end up trying a watercooled system using PC parts due to the socket size... should at least look cool!

Are there are quad head water coolers out there? That might be interesting.

Would go with 4 individual blocks, linked 2x2 is seriers to 2x 240 Rads.

Blocks: 4x http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16395/ex-blc-1153/Alphacool_NexXxos_XP_Light_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Edition_-_Intel_AMD_12153.html?tl=g30c325s1118

Pump: 2x http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9898/ex-pmp-92/Bitspower_Mini_Water_Tank_Plus_DDC_Pump_Attachement_Reservoir_w_Filter_-_Acetal_Cap_BP-DDCT2-CL.html?tl=g30c107s152

Rads: 2x http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14327/ex-rad-315/XSPC_EX240_Dual_120mm_Low_Profile_Split_Fin_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s160

I know its expensive and highly impractical.. dont care.
Plus you can pay in BTC

[Scrappy Do]

Putting the pump RIGHT on the center of the hot zone should keep it alive longer and a pond pump may not die as easily (we used aquarium pumps)

 Wally World has Bilge pums for dirt cheap, and their flow is 10x better. CMON!

[Scrappy Do]

I am going to try the waters with converting 4 x-1 units into 3 technobit boards.  Wish me luck!

 Brother I am with ya. I am swapping 2 x3's as we speak. I had to get a loan for the $13k conversion to 200 chips. But then, I bought 4th/s and they made it 6th/s and now with the chips and additional money, its 25 th/s. This seems good to me.. am I wrong?

25 th/s doesn't sound bad to me. A loan for 13k to do it doesn't sound too good though. Good luck!  Is that like 4x 30 amp 208 circuits to power it all?

 Ok, explain to me why 25 th/s for 25k sounds bad. First off. I spent 12k months ago. Matt, and Minersource have been good to me. I believe in them, and they have always stood behind their word. Since Matt brought Dan in, shit getting taken care of.

 Call them man, talk to them, they good folk.

 This is merely my take, and the fact they have taken the time to right a bad situation shows they truly care about their customers.

 Now, back to the point. Will 2 dells do 3 boards. I seriously believe so. His PSU's can be pushed to the max, and deliver. I have 6 of them.

 50 boards as I have requested would be 25k+-5% watts. That is a serious load for a house. That's why I have 3 colo's. I am already pulling 20 from here.

[fivejonnyfive]

Putting the pump RIGHT on the center of the hot zone should keep it alive longer and a pond pump may not die as easily (we used aquarium pumps)

 Wally World has Bilge pums for dirt cheap, and their flow is 10x better. CMON!

I never thought my rating as a US Coast Guard licensed captain would have a use on this board, however here goes:

While the flow rating on bilge pumps is higher they are designed to be activated by a float switch and then rapidly clear water from the hull of a vessel. Once the water is gone they shut off. The upshot of it all is your average Rule bilge pump is not rated for continuous operation. Running it 24x7 I would not be shocked if it burned out within a month. Your mileage may vary and it's been 5 years since I worked the water - but a pond circulator pump seems way better.

[Scrappy Do]

Putting the pump RIGHT on the center of the hot zone should keep it alive longer and a pond pump may not die as easily (we used aquarium pumps)

 Wally World has Bilge pums for dirt cheap, and their flow is 10x better. CMON!

I never thought my rating as a US Coast Guard licensed captain would have a use on this board, however here goes:

While the flow rating on bilge pumps is higher they are designed to be activated by a float switch and then rapidly clear water from the hull of a vessel. Once the water is gone they shut off. The upshot of it all is your average Rule bilge pump is not rated for continuous operation. Running it 24x7 I would not be shocked if it burned out within a month. Your mileage may vary and it's been 5 years since I worked the water - but a pond circulator pump seems way better.

 Point taken. But did you consider most bilge pumps don't run mineral oil through them, that constantly lubes? I know it seems trivial, but it in fact holds true. I bought 7 asic eruptor boards in October and they still cool as shit and making money now. Don't believe me? Plug em in at 350 watts on your calc. Sure, its a mere .52 cents a day, at .08 per kw. You realize how much that is over their life span? Over 7 BTC is what I made and cost me a mere .956 BTC.

 Point being... A bilge pump with clean oil running through it can run 100 times longer than water with shit in it. This is my mere experience with them.

[Scrappy Do]

Do the Marto boards run off of CGMiner or do they use that weird Hex miner stuff?

cgminer
the image for TP-link and patch are already available on our website

 Marto. Do you think these boards would be fine to be submerged in mineral oil? I just requested bob send my 200 chips to you and looking for an easy way to cool them. Also, I think if I am reading this right, you install a generic heatsink? If so, will that be enough if they are are submerged?

(Licking my chops for 25 th/s)

Scrap'

I've built a few oil cooled PC's in my extreme overclocking days.

As long as your thermal load calcs are right you'll be fine. You'll want SOME kind of heatsink on it to allow the oil to cool it easier (more surface area n all that)

Do your themal load calc (should be online resources, that's where I found mine), then add oil, small pond pump (circulation), Isolator plate for the temp difference, peltier coolers, cold side in oil, hot side with box fan,.. done. Temp monitor with SMS alert, then Chill till the pump eventually dies/freezes then replace. Putting the pump RIGHT on the center of the hot zone should keep it alive longer and a pond pump may not die as easily (we used aquarium pumps)

 Thank you for this post my friend, as the only other response tried to make me feel like a noob. I too know that a heatsink must be installed for the oil to work. A raw chip can work providing the fluid is ample.  But the fluid needed to cool a raw chip is insane. If you have a mere heatsink on it, it will disperse much better in air or oil. Oil has the benefit of saturation. 100x1 factor.

 Am I on the right page my friend?

I hope your not referring to my post as making you feel like a newb as that was not my intent.  You just came in asking a lot of questions and I was advising that you make sure you do ample research or your large investment could be ruined very quickly. Oh course a heatsink will disperse better, I just assumed you would be springing to buy good oil, as you are talking about dispersing quite s bit of heat.  I agree with the other poster that you need to do the math and find out how much room you have, and then work back from there.  Lower quality oil over a larger space is fine, but denser spaces would require you to open your wallet again, so figuring out your situation and what you have to work with is key.

Also think about your options.  The heat still has to be expunged at some point.  If you just have the oil pulling the heat away and dispersing it into the air, you may be better off air cooling anyway, but if you have a system with a big radiator off somewhere else, then that could be a viable solution, again, its about what you have available.

 Actually, yank the fans, and stack em up.. that is the plan. Providing MS sends the chips...