Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread

[lmue]

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http://media.163.com/14/0106/14/9HTOLTPH00762OM6.html

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[aysyr]

Sorry guys but I'm starting from ground zero here with BOINC.  I noticed the link on the first page of this thread points to a version of BOINC that is actually pretty old now.  The prod version of BOINC appears to be 7.2.33.

Should I use the latest version of BOINC or the version that this thread points to?

I grabbed 7.2.33 and then decided I better ask before continuing.  Also there is an option in the BOINC install (7.2.33) about installing a service that seems to intentionally prevent applications from using GPU's.  I'm guessing we do not want to install this service and it is unchecked by default.

Is the group behind BOINC trying to shut projects like this down with the latest versions?  Why would they have a service to prevent GPU usage?

Again I apologize for my noob questions but I'm totally new to BOINC as well as Gridcoin so don't want to shoot myself in the foot by starting with the wrong version.  

I have the latest stable version installed in one of my miners and it works just fine so you should be good. As for the disable GPU, I've never noticed it (on the old nor the newest release) but I wouldn't say it's trying to shut projects down... it IS optional isn't it? Haha, I would just say it's for people who strictly want to use their CPU or something along those lines.

[aysyr]

I had an unusual experience this morning, I woke up to find my cgminer "frozen". It had apparently been frozen for ~4 hours and it showed the last activity as being "Waiting for work to be available from pools".

Also, when I opened my task manager, I noticed three rogue conhost.exe's on BOTH of my computers which seemed to be running silently as there were no open conhost windows to be seen.

Anyone else experience anything similar...?

***EDIT***
Also, my BOINC usage on the same machine that had frozen cgminer will no longer go above 50% usage but is usually much lower, around ~10% or so...

Gridcoin is not reporting any BOINC KH/ps despite the fact that BOINC is using 100% of the cpu's.

I have not changed ANYTHING on this machine, task manager shows BOINC as using 100%, gridcoin is STILL being launched as admin, I can see no reason for this to be happening...

***EDIT***
I ran upgrade from the RPC which did not fix the problem, I also deleted Program files (x86)\Gridcoin and re-installed from MSI, still no change.

Might be a naive suggestion, but have you tried rebooting your computer since it happened? I know for example my one computer, if I stop cgminer in order to let a friend play games on it, when I try to start it up again it only runs at 30kh/s instead of it's usual 300 kh's. Nothing running in the background or anything. But rebooting it brings it back. Makes me think something got "stuck" and just needed to refreshed to relink everything. Wouldn't hurt to try if you haven't already.

[TribalBob]

Might be a naive suggestion, but have you tried rebooting your computer since it happened? I know for example my one computer, if I stop cgminer in order to let a friend play games on it, when I try to start it up again it only runs at 30kh/s instead of it's usual 300 kh's. Nothing running in the background or anything. But rebooting it brings it back. Makes me think something got "stuck" and just needed to refreshed to relink everything. Wouldn't hurt to try if you haven't already.

I will give it a try, but the problem isn't with cgminer, it's with gridcoin not reading my BOINC usage properly... But you're right, can't hurt to try...

***EDIT***
Restarted my PC, problem still persists...

[jacquette]

wallet for some reason not syncing... anyone else having this issue?

[TribalBob]

wallet for some reason not syncing... anyone else having this issue?

There are two other people I am aware of who are having sync issues, and I and at least one other person are having trouble with gridcoin not communicating with BOINC properly...

I'm sure Rob will figure out the issue(s) before too long...

[ChasingTheDream]

I am messing around with Gridcoin today and found that when I go into Gridcoins mining console -> Configuration -> Create CG Miner instance.  I get the following error:

Conversion from string "" to type 'Long' is not valid.

I have not got mining to work in Gridcoin as of yet which was why I tried to do it.  Back to reading the thread again to see what to do next.  Tremendous work team!

Are most people running CGMiner external to Gridcoin?

[aysyr]

I am messing around with Gridcoin today and found that when I go into Gridcoins mining console -> Configuration -> Create CG Miner instance.  I get the following error:

Conversion from string "" to type 'Long' is not valid.

I have not got mining to work in Gridcoin as of yet which was why I tried to do it.  Back to reading the thread again to see what to do next.  Tremendous work team!

Are most people running CGMiner external to Gridcoin?

Are all the fields filled out? GPU Thread Concurrency, Worksize, Intensity, and Lookup Gap all have a number? Chances are you left Lookup Gap blank right? Haha you can put either 2 or 1 in that... Not exactly sure the difference but I have 2 for the CGminers I have running on a 5970 or 7970.




And sucks to hear it didn't work TribabBob =\ wish I could help more - hopefully Rob comes back on soon. I had an issue with BOINC where I dropped from 100% to 50% but that was because of me changing accounts on my project I think lol, and it didn't drop as much as yours did down to 10%.

Jacquette, is it getting stuck at like a few hours behind? Have you tried doing gridcoin-qt.exe -rescan on the cmd?

[ChasingTheDream]

Thanks aysyr.  I did leave Lookup Gap empty so that was it!

[Gridcoin]

wallet for some reason not syncing... anyone else having this issue?

There are two other people I am aware of who are having sync issues, and I and at least one other person are having trouble with gridcoin not communicating with BOINC properly...

I'm sure Rob will figure out the issue(s) before too long...

ChasingTheDream:  Hey welcome aboard!  Thanks for the compliments, I appreciate it, big time!

TribalBob:  Try left clicking on the project in boinc and click Project Tasks | Update.  See if that helps; a new boinc timestamp exists; it should be honored in the newest version; also try adding or deleting and re-adding the project or new projects; let me know if you figure anything new out that we can add to the manual; For me, I clicked update on Malaria and deleted my gridcoin.dat file and it fixed it.

Imue: Thanks for the link to http://media.163.com/14/0106/14/9HTOLTPH00762OM6.html, that was a great article.

Slashka:  I'll be looking at the android e-mails from Leismith ASAP, please don't be discouraged; hopefully you two can create a new android repository asap.

Two users found the newest version does not create the SQL database; will be checking that out today.

Rob H.

[TribalBob]

TribalBob:  Try left clicking on the project in boinc and click Project Tasks | Update.  See if that helps; a new boinc timestamp exists; it should be honored in the newest version; also try adding or deleting and re-adding the project or new projects; let me know if you figure anything new out that we can add to the manual; For me, I clicked update on Malaria and deleted my gridcoin.dat file and it fixed it.

I have no gridcoin.dat file... I have a file called gridcoin with no extension in appdata\roaming\gridcoin\sql is that the one...?

***EDIT***
Did a complete re-install of the Gridcoin client which has my BOINC usage fluctuating between ~10% - ~50%

BOINC MD5 Hash is correct, BOINC Block Hash is correct, but still showing only "0" or "infinity" for BOINC KH/ps.

[ChasingTheDream]

I think I'm making progress.  lol

I'm not running an external version of cgminer.  I'm trying to run it within the Gridcoin mining module.

However I have a message on the bottom left of my screen where it should say "mining", it is saying process has exited, so the requested information is not available.  There are no hashing showing so I don't think it is doing anything.

On the configuration screen it shows my GPU and I've enabled it.  I gave it values for worksize, intensity, and lookback.  I did not give it a concurrency value.  

I also set the config file so it would pool mine because I was hoping to get some idea of I was actually mining.  lol

Any ideas?

Regarding some other things that don't look right.  My wallet was in sync but as I was waiting to see if something happened with the miners.  After a while the wallet showed out of sync and showed it was 3 blocks behind and seemed to get stuck there.  When I shut it down and restarted it again the wallet immediately showed it was sync'd again.

Edit:  After the restart it got out of sync again fairly quickly.

[traderman]

I always run cgminer externally to Gridcoin. So far has proven better for me.

I think I'm making progress.  lol

I'm not running an external version of cgminer.  I'm trying to run it within the Gridcoin mining module.

However I have a message on the bottom left of my screen where it should say "mining", it is saying process has exited, so the requested information is not available.  There are no hashing showing so I don't think it is doing anything.

On the configuration screen it shows my GPU and I've enabled it.  I gave it values for worksize, intensity, and lookback.  I did not give it a concurrency value. 

I also set the config file so it would pool mine because I was hoping to get some idea of I was actually mining.  lol

Any ideas?

Regarding some other things that don't look right.  My wallet was in sync but as I was waiting to see if something happened with the miners.  After a while the wallet showed out of sync and showed it was 3 blocks behind and seemed to get stuck there.  When I shut it down and restarted it again the wallet immediately showed it was sync'd again.

Edit:  After the restart it got out of sync again fairly quickly.

[Gridcoin]

TribalBob:  Try left clicking on the project in boinc and click Project Tasks | Update.  See if that helps; a new boinc timestamp exists; it should be honored in the newest version; also try adding or deleting and re-adding the project or new projects; let me know if you figure anything new out that we can add to the manual; For me, I clicked update on Malaria and deleted my gridcoin.dat file and it fixed it.

I have no gridcoin.dat file... I have a file called gridcoin with no extension in appdata\roaming\gridcoin\sql is that the one...?

***EDIT***
Did a complete re-install of the Gridcoin client which has my BOINC usage fluctuating between ~10% - ~50%

BOINC MD5 Hash is correct, BOINC Block Hash is correct, but still showing only "0" or "infinity" for BOINC KH/ps.

Remember to also try clicking Update on the boinc project.
Then kill c:\programdata\boinc\gridcoin.dat, then refresh.

Thanks,
Grid

[Gridcoin]

I think I'm making progress.  lol

I'm not running an external version of cgminer.  I'm trying to run it within the Gridcoin mining module.

However I have a message on the bottom left of my screen where it should say "mining", it is saying process has exited, so the requested information is not available.  There are no hashing showing so I don't think it is doing anything.

On the configuration screen it shows my GPU and I've enabled it.  I gave it values for worksize, intensity, and lookback.  I did not give it a concurrency value.  

I also set the config file so it would pool mine because I was hoping to get some idea of I was actually mining.  lol

Any ideas?

Regarding some other things that don't look right.  My wallet was in sync but as I was waiting to see if something happened with the miners.  After a while the wallet showed out of sync and showed it was 3 blocks behind and seemed to get stuck there.  When I shut it down and restarted it again the wallet immediately showed it was sync'd again.

Edit:  After the restart it got out of sync again fairly quickly.

Try doing the pool mining later after you get it all running;
One thing you can do is start with guiminer, place the whole guiminer directory in c:\users\appdata\yourfolder\gridcoin.

Later you can try adding a cgminer instance from gridcoin, if you do, copy the settings from guiminer (you have to have the thread concurrency set).

When cgminer is hidden, you can click unhide it to watch to see if its setup correctly.

Sometimes it takes 25 minutes to resync; once its synced it stays synced for a long period.  The issue occurs with competing forks.

Rob H.

[TribalBob]

TribalBob:  Try left clicking on the project in boinc and click Project Tasks | Update.  See if that helps; a new boinc timestamp exists; it should be honored in the newest version; also try adding or deleting and re-adding the project or new projects; let me know if you figure anything new out that we can add to the manual; For me, I clicked update on Malaria and deleted my gridcoin.dat file and it fixed it.

I have no gridcoin.dat file... I have a file called gridcoin with no extension in appdata\roaming\gridcoin\sql is that the one...?

***EDIT***
Did a complete re-install of the Gridcoin client which has my BOINC usage fluctuating between ~10% - ~50%

BOINC MD5 Hash is correct, BOINC Block Hash is correct, but still showing only "0" or "infinity" for BOINC KH/ps.

Remember to also try clicking Update on the boinc project.
Then kill c:\programdata\boinc\gridcoin.dat, then refresh.

Thanks,
Grid

When you say "click update on the BOINC project", which project should I be clicking update on...?

My problem is not with a specific BOINC project, my problem is that task manager says my BOINC projects are using 100% of my CPU, but Gridcoin is reporting only ~10% to ~50% BOINC usage and my BOINC KH/ps always displays as either "0" or "infinity".

I did delete programdata\boinc\gridcoin.dat and restarted gridcoin, still no change, BOINC usage fluctuates between ~10% to ~50% (57% is the highest I've seen it all day) and BOINC KH/ps is still showing as "0" or "infinity"

***EDIT***
I tried "UPDATE" on malariacontrol.net since you said that was the same you had done, deleted my gridcoin.dat and restarted, still no change...

[airtreb]

im having same problem boinc only up to 50%,

New PC

1. Install GRC client (run as administrator)
2. Sync.
3. Install Boinc
4. Restarted the Pc
5. Add boinc project
6. Run and Sync the Wallet
 and still getting 50% boinc only...how to make it 100% boinc utilization?

[aysyr]

It happened to me where it went down to 50% the next morning after upgrading to the latest version... never got it fixed. I've just been letting it go back up to 100% slowly - it's at 65% for me now. Well I guess this bug will just make Gridcoin rarer since there'll be less coins per block for a time

[Gridcoin]

For everyone having problems with 50% utilization, the newer versions of boinc were not compatible, here is the fix!

New Version Available:Release Notes: 1.1.5.1/58/7.1:  Install from RPC: Yes
* Dc7D: Made the Mining screen automatically shrink 30px smaller on small monitors.
* Sql Server: Verified databases are not being created for new users: Fixed.
* Persist the values for mining checkboxes.
* Added support for newest boinc versions.

Rob H.

[TribalBob]

For everyone having problems with 50% utilization, the newer versions of boinc were not compatible, here is the fix!

New Version Available:Release Notes: 1.1.5.1/58/7.1:  Install from RPC: Yes
* Dc7D: Made the Mining screen automatically shrink 30px smaller on small monitors.
* Sql Server: Verified databases are not being created for new users: Fixed.
* Persist the values for mining checkboxes.
* Added support for newest boinc versions.

Rob H.

My BOINC utilization still seems to be maxing out at 57% and BOINC KH/ps still stuck showing only "0" or "infinity"...