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[acuyaa]

Actually I am full confident about my account. Just happening this make me sick Because I did not wrong anything. The problem is they did not give me exact time of period.

From this I understand They can hold me maybe a month, maybe even a year.

They send me money also after 1st KYC. I thought Ok there is no problem anymore. But it still a problem.

I think I also won bets that interval They paused me or they want me to play and loose those money. Actually I played like 1-2 hours ago First it went bad then I won and there is addition 2000 USDT.

By the way I did not play casino only sportsbetting.

I did not broke their ToS. I can show to anyone my bets.

Also I did broke their ToS, They wouldnt let me take 30.000 USDT yesterday.

Those all things make me confused.

Is there anyone know that how much time they do investigation generally ?

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[fathafraink]

Welcome to Cloudbet,

A bit of a lag when I just opened the site in the post. Maybe because on the start page there are some videos, which makes my computer a bit laggy.

[acuyaa]

Hello again,

They informed me from live support that I can make a withdraw my money. I passed the investigation on my account like I thought I did not anything wrong.

Now I am waiting to receive my money.

Thanks for all answers

[logfiles]

A bit of a lag when I just opened the site in the post. Maybe because on the start page there are some videos, which makes my computer a bit laggy.

You mean this link?

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https://www.cloudbet.com/en/blog/posts/bet-small-dream-big-micro-stake-bitcoin-betting?utm_source=bitcointalk&utm_medium=community&utm_campaign=bitcointalk-meta&utm_content=low-stakes

I tried loading it on my Firefox, and it took less than 5 seconds to load. Maybe there's a problem with your device, internet provider or browser.

[xSkylarx]

A bit of a lag when I just opened the site in the post. Maybe because on the start page there are some videos, which makes my computer a bit laggy.

Maybe it's just your internet connection. Tried opening mine and the website interface showed quickly. I even tried it to access on my phone and it just works fine even if at mobile data.

Cloudbet's been running many years now. It's the first website I get to know way back 2018 in terms of sports booking. Their website improved a lot since then, they now offer some casino games unlike before that you can only bet on sports matches.

[decodx]

Now there are a lot of fraudulent casinos, so before playing at a casino you need to check its reputation, license, and how long the casino has been operating, as well as reviews about the casino.

It is useless to check casino reviews, since you can order any reviews, both positive reviews about the casino and that the casino deceives people. Negative reviews can be ordered by competitors.

I don't agree with this. There are many reputable sources where you can find honest, reliable reviews that can help guide you towards choosing the right casino games, without feeling like you're being duped by some phony review site. Since it's always best to be a smart player and read reviews before taking a chance on a particular casino, it's important to know where to look for helpful information. In other words, do an appropriate amount of analysis before deciding to trust a review source. Anyone could have a professional-looking site and print any kind of content that they want. You should consider how trustworthy the source is, how true or foul the content is, and whether or not anyone is being paid to provide biased information, so you can judge what you read using critical thinking. Once you know what to look for, it should be easier to pick those sites that are most likely to be helpful to your own analysis of online casinos.

[Beparanf]

You need to get used to the fact that cryptocurrency will soon be fully regulated and licenses will be needed for everything, both for exchanges and nos.

I strongly don't agree with this very statement of yours, because thou cryptocurrency is partly regulated today by big exchanges and online casinos, but i doubt if it can be fully regulated in time soon, coupled with the decentralized nature of Bitcoin and its anonymous inventor "Satoshi" who up till today never seen before, because with the help of decentralized exchanges "e.g Bisq" and cold wallets which enable us to buy, sell and trade cryptocurrency, people can equally use this while bypassing regulated centralized medium

Cryptocurrency is becoming more centralized and KYC is already becoming a permanent practice. There are DeFi projects where there is no KYC, but centralized projects with KYC retain high popularity and a large number of users.

This is because centralized casino still offer the best benefits and tournaments rewards compared to decentralized casino. Also there is only few decentralized casino that popular at this point that’s why crypto gambler still choose centralized casino since decentralized casino is not yet booming. Soon crypto user will decentralized casino once KYC becomes mandatory on all centralize casino. So far there are still some casino that doesn't require KYC which is why decentralize is still not the preferred choice of gamblers.

[nininyashka]

The casino is interested in new users, so it does everything possible so that the KYC procedure can be passed easily and quickly.

If the user honestly works with the casino, he should have no problems with either passing KYC or withdrawing funds.

The fact that Cloudbet has been operating since 2013 already indicates that the casino is trying to work honestly and is doing everything possible to solve problems with customers.

[LUCKMCFLY]

That's right, almost all casinos already require KYC and this is something that will continue to be required, and the terms and conditions that will be made will be to see how authentic the person is and if they did not commit fraud with their documents or something, I think that is one of the reasons why KYC is required when a withdrawal will be made, which I find sometimes a bit annoying, but when looking at it from a point of view focused on player security, it is good, because If you enter your account, they hack it and make withdrawals only with the input data, it is something that can happen, it has happened to me that one day they did it because they did not have a 2FA security layer.

KYC is a protection for both the casino and its users. No one will cheat after passing KYC, since the casino knows his name. At the same time, regulation and KYC protect the players. If the casino deceives the player, then the player can complain to the regulator, specifying his personal data and the regulator can check everything whether the player is actually right.

Yes, I understand your point, it is logical to think like this, however, we must also take into account that despite the fact that KYC can have all these advantages in a possible attack and all the data that is available to a hacker is very dangerous, identifications would be obtained , exact locations of where each person lives, the amount of their operations is there, amount of money and crypto that is handled, and now criminals handle a lot of information, they are more intelligent and know a lot about computers, they make use of the tools technology for your good, then that is a problem and that is why there is so much discussion on the subject.

[decodx]

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Any reviews can be bought and sold, so first of all you need to study where these reviews are published. But even in a trusted source there may be purchased or paid reviews, it's just harder to make them. Therefore, there will be fewer such paid reviews.

That's true, but I was responding to Lunafox, specifically the part where he states that "it is useless to check casino reviews" which I strongly disagree with. While some reviews can be biased and/or poorly written, they're much better than no information at all. And in the very least, they give us a first impression of each online betting site before we do anything else. You should still be doing a lot of your own research, checking things like the overall reputation of the site in question, their licensing and regulation status and if they're offering games from reputable software providers.

[paxaman]

Does Cloudbet limit players?

Since last week some times it fails when I place a bet. Initialy there is an amount in the max bet field, and when tryiing to place a bet under that amount it fails, and the maxbet amount changes down a lot.
Never had this problem before.

Regards

[Slow death]

I don't agree with this. There are many reputable sources where you can find honest, reliable reviews that can help guide you towards choosing the right casino games, without feeling like you're being duped by some phony review site. Since it's always best to be a smart player and read reviews before taking a chance on a particular casino, it's important to know where to look for helpful information. In other words, do an appropriate amount of analysis before deciding to trust a review source. Anyone could have a professional-looking site and print any kind of content that they want. You should consider how trustworthy the source is, how true or foul the content is, and whether or not anyone is being paid to provide biased information, so you can judge what you read using critical thinking. Once you know what to look for, it should be easier to pick those sites that are most likely to be helpful to your own analysis of online casinos.

Any reviews can be bought and sold, so first of all you need to study where these reviews are published. But even in a trusted source there may be purchased or paid reviews, it's just harder to make them. Therefore, there will be fewer such paid reviews.

Because of this three paid reviews scheme, I just started to believe in the negative reviews that talk about the site, for example if I want to create an account on a certain site and I go to google to do research to use the site then I start to prioritize seeing negative comments about the site, if I can't find negative comments about the site, then the next step is to come here on the forum to search for the site and if I can't find the site here on the forum then I'll create a thread in the appropriate section where I'll ask if anyone has used the site, and if someone appears telling me that they have already used the site and that the site is safe then I create an account but I do not put much money on the site and I do not save money on the site, because I do not trust the site but as it is an emergency and the only site so I would be using the site with caution, people have to use reliable casinos

That's right, almost all casinos already require KYC and this is something that will continue to be required, and the terms and conditions that will be made will be to see how authentic the person is and if they did not commit fraud with their documents or something, I think that is one of the reasons why KYC is required when a withdrawal will be made, which I find sometimes a bit annoying, but when looking at it from a point of view focused on player security, it is good, because If you enter your account, they hack it and make withdrawals only with the input data, it is something that can happen, it has happened to me that one day they did it because they did not have a 2FA security layer.

KYC is a protection for both the casino and its users. No one will cheat after passing KYC, since the casino knows his name. At the same time, regulation and KYC protect the players. If the casino deceives the player, then the player can complain to the regulator, specifying his personal data and the regulator can check everything whether the player is actually right.

Yes, I understand your point, it is logical to think like this, however, we must also take into account that despite the fact that KYC can have all these advantages in a possible attack and all the data that is available to a hacker is very dangerous, identifications would be obtained , exact locations of where each person lives, the amount of their operations is there, amount of money and crypto that is handled, and now criminals handle a lot of information, they are more intelligent and know a lot about computers, they make use of the tools technology for your good, then that is a problem and that is why there is so much discussion on the subject.

the worst part is when the criminal takes people's documents and sells it on the black market and on the black market another criminal buys the document and commits a crime on behalf of the person who is in the document, then the police when investigating starts looking for the person in the document and it is difficult for the person with the document to prove that he was not the author of the crime

[logfiles]

Does Cloudbet limit players?

Since last week some times it fails when I place a bet. Initialy there is an amount in the max bet field, and when tryiing to place a bet under that amount it fails, and the maxbet amount changes down a lot.
Never had this problem before.

Regards

Hey mate,

I suggest you write to them a message to this email address (support@cloudbet.com). Their support is is no longer active here, and you probably won't get the answers you want in time from here.

[Slow death]

the worst part is when the criminal takes people's documents and sells it on the black market and on the black market another criminal buys the document and commits a crime on behalf of the person who is in the document, then the police when investigating starts looking for the person in the document and it is difficult for the person with the document to prove that he was not the author of the crime

The person whose personal data is stolen does not know for what purposes his personal data will be used. This is the main problem of personal data leakage.

Therefore, the security of the cryptocurrency platform is important, whether it is an exchange or a casino. After all, not only money is stolen, but also personal data.

even if the casino says they are safe, there is the problem that no one knows the identity of the casino owner, casino headquarters, so it is difficult to trust your documents to a completely anonymous person, this is sincerely unfair, as the casino owner is anonymous but customers can't be anonymous? when did curacao or someone government inspect a casino to check if they are compliant with KYC and if all people's documents are safe or not? I have never heard that curacao or any government has done inspections to see if the casino complies with KYC and if people's documents are safe or not. That's why I don't even understand why they ask for KYC

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I deposited Doge yesterday but I decided not to bet anymore and when I try to withdraw the withdraw address is disabled, whats wrong with the withdrawal function, Is it working or not?

Actually, most of the casinos & sportsbooks will not allow you to just deposit and withdraw. I have been in such a situation and it feels terrible but you need to probably rollover once the deposited amount before withdrawing. I shouted at a casino's support initially because I was like, dude I am paying the transaction/withdrawal fees so just send it. But the support person informed me that due to money laundering and mixing issues they have to put such limitations in place.

I don't your exact problem but mostly that is it. Cloudbet has a live support option on-site so they might also help you out. I wish to see you get back your coins asap.

Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.

[Mahdirakib]

Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.

You will face difficulties to make a withdrawal at 99% betting sites if you try to withdraw your deposited funds without placing any bets. You can't blame Cloudbet or any other casino for this. Casinos are really strict when it comes to money laundering activity. It just takes a few minutes to get the deposited funds in crypto casino account. You shouldn't access online casino if your decision changes within a few minutes gap. Your signature casino also has rollover requirements on deposit.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yeah, This is dangerous for those user that selling there verified gambling account in the market. I saw many users before that selling this kind of accounts and most probably it was hacked account. Worst scenario was your KYC account got hacked and used to cheat in the casino while you have the ID for the casino to trace and sue you for the violations that scammer did. This is what I’m avoiding too on submitting my KYC on casino.

Due to hacked accounts and fraudulent users, the casinos themselves suffer. After all, if a player has conceived fraud, then even despite the presence of KYC, he will use a fraudulent or hacked account.

On any forms of business, there will always be abusers like that but business owners can do something to stop them. If it's an online casino then they can increase their website's security and they can also enforce a KYC to intimidate those who will try to abuse their sites but if ever the abusers insist to and they are caught out, it will be easier for the casino to trace them.

Some criminals will just hack someone's account that are verified already by a KYC and they will use it for their exploits. Problems like this will be solved out easily if a user who got hacked will cooperate on the casinos immediately and then the casino will freeze their accounts.

What happens is that in these things many scenarios can occur, the first is that they can be hacked accounts and the person who was hacked has no reason to report it and leaves it like that, the other is that they sell their account to another person, and Obviously you do your misdeeds with all your apparent KYC, but this can be avoided in the case of a very large withdrawal, you can do as some protocols do in Binance, a quick KYC, that is, it can be a photo or a small video of verification that the person in front is actually the owner of that account, I think that is how they can protect an account, and unfortunately it is through KYC.

I deposited Doge yesterday but I decided not to bet anymore and when I try to withdraw the withdraw address is disabled, whats wrong with the withdrawal function, Is it working or not?

Actually, most of the casinos & sportsbooks will not allow you to just deposit and withdraw. I have been in such a situation and it feels terrible but you need to probably rollover once the deposited amount before withdrawing. I shouted at a casino's support initially because I was like, dude I am paying the transaction/withdrawal fees so just send it. But the support person informed me that due to money laundering and mixing issues they have to put such limitations in place.

I don't your exact problem but mostly that is it. Cloudbet has a live support option on-site so they might also help you out. I wish to see you get back your coins asap.

Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.

Uff, I mean, if I deposit, play and win, they don't allow me to withdraw my money? or if I deposit let's say 500usd and win 200usd they won't let me withdraw the 700usd? I am not against the lyeyes so that they catch the rogues, but come on, the big ones do not use the casinos to launder money, they do it in other ways, it will be for an apprentice who wants to do something like that, however I would not like to have one situation like this, because it is obvious that if I enter a casino and deposit, if I get my winnings and want to withdraw everything, that should not be considered money laundering and less with little money, if I would consider that a person deposits $1M and wants to withdraw it at once, but with not so high monotons it doesn't apply, or well it shouldn't.

[Coin_trader]

In any case, before registering at the casino, you need to read the terms of use to know what you can do and what is forbidden to do at the casino.

Almost all casinos have the same terms of use. The same things are prohibited everywhere, such as the creation of multiaccounts and all sorts of frauds and manipulations with the account.

The players want to earn more, so they use all sorts of manipulations. In casinos, people are willing to take risks, including the risk of violating the rules of the casino.

Abusers is not taking risk at all because they are just abusing the bonus and hope that they will not caught. In the event that they are caught, There original funds will be refund by the casino and just ban there account. They are just risking there KYC since it’s a requirements to recover there funds but since there’s many people especially on 3rd world country that willing to sell there KYC details in exchange for a penny. This scammer/abuser keeps coming back since they have unlimited source of ID for KYC verification.

This is the risk on the casino side by providing bonus to all new registered player. This is the reason too why KYC requirements is starting to become a mandatory on some casino.

[Slow death]

The players want to earn more, so they use all sorts of manipulations. In casinos, people are willing to take risks, including the risk of violating the rules of the casino.

The casino does everything possible to stop various manipulations, so all suspicious accounts are blocked and users who are suspected of manipulations are not allowed to withdraw money.

I understand that dealing with cheaters is something very difficult because they create new accounts every day and try to cheat, but certain casinos have used their TOS as an argument for not allowing people to withdraw money that is on the site and when questioning the casino: why don't you post evidence that the user who was blocked and who is being accused of having too many accounts has too many accounts? the casino always says they can't show evidence because cheaters can see the security measures casinos use to catch cheaters

Before playing at the casino, you need to carefully read the terms of use of the casino and then there will be no problems, including there will be no problems with money laundering.

almost all people do this, the problem arises when the casino itself is a scam and they don't want to pay and they keep using arguments like using many accounts and then asking for KYC and then blocking the person, even here on the forum I saw many of these types of cases and they were few cases where the customer received the money

Well, what's the sense of making a deposit in a casino and immediately withdrawing money? People come to the casino to play and enjoy the game, not to withdraw money after making a deposit.

there are cases where the person deposits and then bets on a game and loses and gets frustrated and sad and decides to withdraw all the rest of the money that is in the casino, I believe that this happens to many people, so we cannot say that all people who make deposits and withdraw without making a lot of bets are laundering money, what you have to watch out for is if the person gambles regularly or does this kind of thing regularly and what are the deposit amounts

[Solosanz]

What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.