NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[timmyd]

Still no sign of NXT trading on vircurex.com 

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Has there been a delay or are you guessing lol

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[pinarello]

please tweet and retweet!

http://www.cryptmarketcap.com/

[Damelon]

I am looking into my options of making my NXT Solaris client open-source and multi-platform. Since there are trade-offs, I would like to get an idea which operation systems you are most interested in, so I set up a vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430593.0

Thanks for voting!

The results are what I had expected.

I've made a 1400 US$ investment and upgraded my development environment to Delphi XE5 and the compatible version of the commercial Developer Express components.

The roadmap for NXT Solaris now looks like this:

1.) Move current version of my code to XE5 and release closed source 32-bit and 64-bit versions for Windows (only trivial changes).
2.) Refactor my code to a MVC architecture, so that I can create separate GUIs while using the same version of the business logic code.
3.) Create new GUIs for Windows and OS X using the same business logic, but based on the cross-platform Firemonkey libraries (technically possible targets are Windows, Android, OSX, iOS). The GUIs will not be as sexy and powerful as the closed-source Windows version, though (no Ribbon interface, no filtering, sorting, grouping in data grids, not so many icons etc..), but will still very much resemble what is in the closed-source client.
4.) Release open-source Windows version (32 and 64 bit) based on FireMonkey.
5.) Release open-source OSX version based on FireMonkey.

=> At this point you could decide if you want to use the open-source Windows and OSX version or the closed-source, slightly more sexy and powerfull Windows version.

I will reevaluate if I do versions for Android and iOS at a later point, however I will keep this option in my mind when refactoring the code in step 2. The poll shows that 25% of all voters would use it, but it also depends on which alternatives are available at that point. I would also need to invest another 500 US$ to go mobile and I don't want to do this now.

I will not target Linux, since I technically can't. Someone else might want to jump on this.

I don't know the timeline for the roadmap, so don't ask. ;-) I'll take a week of from my day job next month to get a bit of this done.

Can I just say that you are amazing.
You got some pretty harsh criticism after a lot of hard work and instead of saying "f*ck you all, I'm off", you decide to look at the criticism and invest in a solution.

That is cool on so many levels!

Big respect and a thank you from me.

[Dps23]

If I have $10 and Bill Gates has 50 billion, does this mean he's 5 billion times smarter than me?

Yes 

Of course not
I think cryptocoins should serve better to people and if someone is hoarding the money its sad.
If Bill Gates loose 99% of his wealth he even dont recognize it and still can live comfortable life. But if someone poor in China or elsewhere gets just a fraction of bitcoin or NXT it could change their lives.
Should not we try to invent better distribution of coins? and not just saying that distribution of NXT is 10x better than BTC and thus we are proud of it?

People should bear in mind that it is forbidden to take anything with them to grave. What they would do with all that money after they die??? I cannot understand them.

[swartzfeger]

Hey,

First time posting in this forum

First of all great thanks to all the contributors of this great project! I've been following the threads in this forum and the one at nextcoin.org for a couple of weeks now... impressive comunity

Do we have any news of the Miami conference attendees?

And what about nexern's client, is the ETA still jan 27?

Best,
google

ETA for testing was 26th nothing was said about release date.

Someone will probably hit me over the head for not paying attention; apologies in advance.

Is Nexern's client supporting asset exchange and/or alias trading?

[timmyd]

Just sent vircurex.com a quick mail requesting an update regarding nxt trading. Ill post there reply if i get one.

[Dps23]

Just sent vircurex.com a quick mail requesting an update regarding nxt trading. Ill post there reply if i get one.

It is the high time, Dgex has still high fees for withdrawals
2.8% on BTC -  I have not seen such high fees anywhere else
and Bter volume dropped down.

[superresistant]

I wasn't so sold on the first draft of the letter to Mark Cuban. Here is an alternative:
...
Unlike other currencies with PoS mining PoW mining,
...

FIFY

[GCInc.]

2.8% on BTC -  I have not seen such high fees anywhere else
and Bter volume dropped down.

Do you always opt for the highest cost in all your endeavours and close your eyes for the more affordable options?

DGEX bitcoin withdrawal fee is 1.4% for normal <24 hours withdrawals.

[punkrock]

Short question: Do API calls work with SSL? Eg. https://localhost:7875/nxt?requestType=sendMoney&secretPhrase=SECRET&recipient=...

[dzarmush]

If I have $10 and Bill Gates has 50 billion, does this mean he's 5 billion times smarter than me?

Yes 

Of course not
I think cryptocoins should serve better to people and if someone is hoarding the money its sad.
If Bill Gates loose 99% of his wealth he even dont recognize it and still can live comfortable life. But if someone poor in China or elsewhere gets just a fraction of bitcoin or NXT it could change their lives.
Should not we try to invent better distribution of coins? and not just saying that distribution of NXT is 10x better than BTC and thus we are proud of it?

People should bear in mind that it is forbidden to take anything with them to grave. What they would do with all that money after they die??? I cannot understand them.

I'm sorry, I don't get you point.

[punkrock]

The GUIs will not be as sexy and powerful as the closed-source Windows version, though (no Ribbon interface, no filtering, sorting, grouping in data grids, not so many icons etc..)

Open source beats eye-candy for sure. Really great news, that you'll release it open source for Win and OSX. NXTclient.net can't wait for it.

[Zahlen]

I've made a wiki article about generating strong passphrases, and why Nxt requires longer passphrases than what folks are usually accustomed to: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:GenerateStrongPassword.
This is important, so I'll try to keep improving it. Feel free to post comments and criticisms in the discussion page, or jump right in and edit.

IMO, we need clients to make all this clear (linking to a wiki article that people may not read through isn't sufficient). Maybe have them enforce password length, or some kind of minimum complexity threshold.

I'm all for helping users understand the choices available to them and the consequences of their choices. I'm not for using password generators, whether in-built into the client or third party, which avoids all this understanding (not to mention the attack vectors that they can open up). Aids like KeePass are good, but only after folks understand the basics.

[Passion_ltc]

Is there a lock in 5.10 in editing any *.html files in webapps? I always add a new title for the wallet (address of my site) and it wasn't possible to launch the client after this.

[wesleyh]

Is there a lock in 5.10 in editing any *.html files in webapps? I always add a new title for the wallet (address of my site) and it wasn't possible to launch the client after this.

If there is, it's pretty smart of them!

[barbierir]

I've made a wiki article about generating strong passphrases, and why Nxt requires longer passphrases than what folks are usually accustomed to: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:GenerateStrongPassword.
This is important, so I'll try to keep improving it. Feel free to post comments and criticisms in the discussion page, or jump right in and edit.

IMO, we need clients to make all this clear (linking to a wiki article that people may not read through isn't sufficient). Maybe have them enforce password length, or some kind of minimum complexity threshold.

I'm all for helping users understand the choices available to them and the consequences of their choices. I'm not for using password generators, whether in-built into the client or third party, which avoids all this understanding (not to mention the attack vectors that they can open up). Aids like KeePass are good, but only after folks understand the basics.

Hi Zahlen, the passphrase issue is very important but the lenght is probably more important  than using special characters

I reccomend the Diceware system: http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html,

A 16 words passphrase with diceware has 7776^16 combinations and cannot be brute-forced, it is also easier to write and memorize

From my reading it seems Keepass has a good random password generator too

[Coinonaer]

I've wrote die existing information about the POW-Coin which Come-from-Beyond created on top of Nxt - Lakshmi [LAK] - in my Blog today (sorry German):
http://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/lakshmi-lak-pow-coin-auf-basis-von-nxt/

[ZeroTheGreat]

Should not we try to invent better distribution of coins?

Sure, go for it. There're already some intresting topics to watch.

And any organized total redistribution of NXTs just impossible. Deal with it.

Yes I think genesis block could have been generated later, perhaps in December, perhaps on Jan 3rd and source code could be revealed also later in February or so.

U know what is means, right? No working system, still just an idea. For months. Just wait until less honest man try to implement same thing?   Well, IMO BCNext's timing was at least good, if not one of the best ones.

[PeercoinEnthusiast]

Craziest flight experience of my life. Made into Miami about 5:30am.. oh well, showtime.

[Zahlen]

I've made a wiki article about generating strong passphrases, and why Nxt requires longer passphrases than what folks are usually accustomed to: http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:GenerateStrongPassword.
This is important, so I'll try to keep improving it. Feel free to post comments and criticisms in the discussion page, or jump right in and edit.

IMO, we need clients to make all this clear (linking to a wiki article that people may not read through isn't sufficient). Maybe have them enforce password length, or some kind of minimum complexity threshold.

I'm all for helping users understand the choices available to them and the consequences of their choices. I'm not for using password generators, whether in-built into the client or third party, which avoids all this understanding (not to mention the attack vectors that they can open up). Aids like KeePass are good, but only after folks understand the basics.

Hi Zahlen, the passphrase issue is very important but the lenght is probably more important  than using special characters

I reccomend the Diceware system: http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html,

A 16 words passphrase with diceware has 7776^16 combinations and cannot be brute-forced, it is also easier to write and memorize

From my reading it seems Keepass has a good random password generator too

I've covered length in the section http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:GenerateStrongPassword#How_do_I_make_a_strong.2C_yet_easy_to_remember_password.3F. How does this compare to Diceware?

Ultimately KeePass is a storage aid (A lot of tools can generate, it specifically gives a way to store securely on your comp, rather than on a piece of paper). Will include it in "Advanced Considerations", or a similar section.