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June 13, 2013, 12:36:33 AM
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How may publishers are there this round?

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June 13, 2013, 12:37:22 AM
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Block 93,300 just ticked over.

Can we get a final payout/contribution sheet?

I'm curious how many total shares we have now that round 24 is over.  TIA.

Awesome. I think shares will be bigger this time. Idk though, I haven;t been paying attention.

We had over 900 shares a week ago.  We're easily over 1,000 shares.  I'm thinking 1 share will be around 150,000 coins, down from 359,000 coins last round.

HOLY SHIT. I thought people were writing like 5,000 words each like last time. Lol.

No, we had many more writers and also much busier writers. 

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June 13, 2013, 12:38:41 AM
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Block 93,300 just ticked over.

Can we get a final payout/contribution sheet?

I'm curious how many total shares we have now that round 24 is over.  TIA.

Awesome. I think shares will be bigger this time. Idk though, I haven;t been paying attention.

We had over 900 shares a week ago.  We're easily over 1,000 shares.  I'm thinking 1 share will be around 150,000 coins, down from 359,000 coins last round.

HOLY SHIT. I thought people were writing like 5,000 words each like last time. Lol.

No, we had many more writers and also much busier writers. 

Seems like it. 2x the content, and I didn't even write half of what I wrote last time, because I wanted to give others a chance.

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June 13, 2013, 01:03:52 AM
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Block 93,300 just ticked over.

Can we get a final payout/contribution sheet?

I'm curious how many total shares we have now that round 24 is over.  TIA.

Awesome. I think shares will be bigger this time. Idk though, I haven;t been paying attention.

We had over 900 shares a week ago.  We're easily over 1,000 shares.  I'm thinking 1 share will be around 150,000 coins, down from 359,000 coins last round.

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I can see bitcoin going to $1,000 if it goes mainstream and I think it will.  There's such little supply that it wouldn't take much to cause it to spike to $1,000.  Definitely less effort than it took to make it go to $266 in under 60 days.

imo BTC going to trade to either to no bid or more likely up USD=$20,000 - $200,000 for one Bitcoin(BTC) >>at maturity date

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June 13, 2013, 02:12:55 AM
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Really hope so too, $20 trillion Bitcoin economy, no fiat countries would dare to ignore.
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June 13, 2013, 02:50:31 AM
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Have you guys tried asking BTC-e to start trading DVC yet? It would help ALTcointip bot to start showing DVC USD/EURO/RUR values next to DVC tips.

It is somewhere in this thread, but not sure how to easily find it, so a recap.

They did add trading in DVC,  they limited the number of decimal places prices could be set to.  This did not work with DVC as the price would have had to have been far above the the price on vircurex at the time. This did not work too well of course.  Rather then fix this, they then removed DVC as an option due to it having no trading volume.

I suggest  doing what http://dvcticker.appspot.com/ does  and using vircurex for dvc prices.


Agreed. Feel free to look at the code on my github, getting API data from Vircurex isn't much different from BTC-e.

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June 13, 2013, 03:31:36 AM
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Seems like Owsley is just bashing DevCoin because he doesn't want competition.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233065.msg2457266#msg2457266

In case he tries to delete his post:


why? lol maybe they could rethink their efforts into a real content based coin to compete with the one me and Yoshatoshi is about to launch! ;-)*WATCH!*
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June 13, 2013, 03:41:46 AM
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Have you guys tried asking BTC-e to start trading DVC yet? It would help ALTcointip bot to start showing DVC USD/EURO/RUR values next to DVC tips.

It is somewhere in this thread, but not sure how to easily find it, so a recap.

They did add trading in DVC,  they limited the number of decimal places prices could be set to.  This did not work with DVC as the price would have had to have been far above the the price on vircurex at the time. This did not work too well of course.  Rather then fix this, they then removed DVC as an option due to it having no trading volume.

I suggest  doing what http://dvcticker.appspot.com/ does  and using vircurex for dvc prices.


Agreed. Feel free to look at the code on my github, getting API data from Vircurex isn't much different from BTC-e.

DVC being delisted by Vircurex *MARK THIS POST!* anyone wanna bet?

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June 13, 2013, 03:43:59 AM
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Seems like Owsley is just bashing DevCoin because he doesn't want competition.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233065.msg2457266#msg2457266

In case he tries to delete his post:


why? lol maybe they could rethink their efforts into a real content based coin to compete with the one me and Yoshatoshi is about to launch! ;-)*WATCH!*

haha ya blast that everywhere!~ Yoshatoshi and me go wayyyy back! ;-) weeeeeee

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June 13, 2013, 04:23:53 AM
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One of the writers on devtome, Wiser, posted this article outlining their experience and ideas for the project. I think it's definitely worth a read and some thinking through:  http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces

I just realized I need to add a section about number of words rewarded per month.  I will post it once I do.

Also, I know I am missing details about how shares are divided up.  If anyone has an article which clarifies that and is more accurate, please pm me and I will link to it  Smiley

I think I have a solution to determine a pay structure. We should go with a meritocracy based around a badge system. These badges would act as rank and determine how much each writer gets paid.

This way you would have granularity, merit, reward for quality, and reward for work. This badge system could also apply to programmers, musicians, or anything else. In order to get a basic level badge an individual would have to pass an exam. This exam should cost some coins and this would prevent spammers. The exam process would make it easier for Fuzzybear or whomever to review works. Perhaps eventually let random community members or even pay individuals to review them. The initial badge would declare that the individual meets the minimum qualification to be recognized as a writer, a programmer, or whatever.

Then over time reward with different higher level badges. These different badges will act as rank and as long as the writer continues to write their pay grade will be a bit higher based on the quality of their previous work as recognized by their badge. There should be different sorts of badges passed around throughout the community which recognize different kinds of competency.

Integrity for example is very valuable no matter if you're a writer, programmer or anything else and a lot of us would rather see the rewards go to community members with proven integrity. This would act similar to ebay or amazon where people maintain a good reputation and can get business but scammers and cheats don't. The better the reputation and integrity of the artist, developer, etc, the greater the portion of shares they should get.

This would allow for the community to reward qualities not just of the work itself, but of the author or developer themselves and factor that into how much they get paid. For instance if Fin Shaggy is known to be a man of honor and integrity then he eventually will receive a badge and that badge will allow him to be recognized for that in pay rank. If Fin Shaggy is also known to be very competent at writing then he could get a badge for that and be recognized for that and get the $50 per share rate but the next person who does not have that badge or who isn't known as being a very competent writer, they'll have to focus more on earning the badge than on just pumping out low quality content. This will force them to actually care about the quality of their work for the badge.

The badge should be difficult to revoke if it's an integrity badge. If it's a competency badge then it should be permanent for writers because if a writer proves they can produce a good piece of art work or software that should be enough. The next step would be to create ranks which are even higher than badges which I'll call medals. Give the medals out to the truly exceptional people. It works very well in sports such as professional boxing or basketball where the champions and gold medalists are recognized as being the best and get the sponsorships.

This way established writers with good reputations for producing quality work will have badges, medals, and other qualifications and these should determine the worth of their shares. This way it's not marketing, it's not word count, it's not equally distributed like communism,  it's merit and competency and these badges could stay with the developer no matter what coin they use in the future. If Ethicoin, Devcoin, Bitcoin, Litecoin or Futurecoin becomes popular these badges will still have established the merit and rank and would persist throughout all of that.

This way I'll immediately know which among you are talented at whatever, which among you are knowledgeable or skilled, and which among you are honorable.

Luckybit's idea is great, I think, as per his usual... the system would benefit from some sort of metric just besides word counts. The exams idea is good... maybe works would be separated in the wiki in tiers, after that, which would also help folks see what articles are well-thought of by the community. A lot of work, but I think this is the right direction to go. Something is needed to separate folks who are competent writers and folks who are just spamming whatever articles they can excessively for more coins with no care for any quality.

Though I like Luckybit's general idea, it would also be great if there was some sort of automated system. It's tough to make a metric for a qualitative thing like this though... maybe exams would be better... page views are also easily faked, so they aren't effective. Maybe measure by outside links to the wiki articles made? The better the article or story is, the more likely it is to be linked elsewhere. This would also serve as good advertising for the community. 

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June 13, 2013, 04:27:49 AM
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Seems like Owsley is just bashing DevCoin because he doesn't want competition.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233065.msg2457266#msg2457266

In case he tries to delete his post:


why? lol maybe they could rethink their efforts into a real content based coin to compete with the one me and Yoshatoshi is about to launch! ;-)*WATCH!*

haha ya blast that everywhere!~ Yoshatoshi and me go wayyyy back! ;-) weeeeeee

>Blast that everywhere
>Only quoted it on here.

What does going back have to do with the previous statement? Are you refusing to answer, because you know it's correct? Please try and troll me harder bro. We already have caps, arrows in almost every post, what do you have left bro, you already did the SpyWare card.
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June 13, 2013, 04:31:47 AM
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Sheer number of posts is the goal, maybe? hundreds of posts on some obscure thread no-one in the investments section reads then show up there with a scam as a "hero member" ?

When DeVCoins are over $10, BiTCoins should be over $10,000 ...

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June 13, 2013, 04:43:26 AM
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The round 24 devtome word earnings are pasted below and at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_earnings_24.csv

Acs26,1pK5e7YxixmERU617STiXgiGdnactBQrT,2-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Acs26)
Alex0909,1Mgvwf4B1VFWKyT91tYnRVPqpTv4ddrfVT,55-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Alex0909)
Alyssa85,1ERn5JRTm5P47LzhiLCbKtduwj9M3cPE81,7-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Alyssa85)
Ashleysly,1Mdu9MbAEsUm81NzEPQR7GCkUxbG39pWMy,9-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Ashleysly)
Atruk,1x1yenCV3GxoiGPjpE1iykCH9kcmS8fsr,3-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Atruk)
Balthozar,1kFhM8vtEzbZ43Z5wcadPvNrb4xFXbgze,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Balthozar)
Barnacle_Ed,16xxKVrtDxTuEJhADUxVmZK94im43RXi45,33-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Barnacle_Ed)
BitcoinAlchemist,1JBmwfJ4HmxTDDYwZY1rC63xR9h8Usqtat,16-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:BitcoinAlchemist)
Bmlzootown,1Dx6QsUh2BjcYSkFdFtrCRC9Xx5fDJWeHp,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Bmlzootown)
Boelens,1PZ4yQmyi4JsfhUUHJiNs15gt98MreQXw1,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Boelens)
Ceebizcut,1M5haKYJ8PJ43kHTs6okSBLj5gUhLRQiUJ,7-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Ceebizcut)
Cryptobyte,1HwxMzbFqZfyE6HaR2D3keJQ1ync1V5UQR,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Cryptobyte)
Cryptopi,19GkNDjmTiGsmyCijGx6tpXdT67W3rNPHE,38-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Cryptopi)
DeadSea33,1A9qwtctYmYrCKSegy7RrNCUJxuohwFQmD,60-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:DeadSea33)
Devtome_Writer,17wwzTrWrk1buS9bxEFdgTsvhiyrDakBZe,10-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Devtome_Writer)
Dexter,18jMxk8jqwvgpx4wT48VAb6jGbYNazz4b7,59-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Dexter)
Diamondcardz,18q45dAKGakQdPkjrg17NrfdiFGKWULwSJ,2-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Diamondcardz)
Eammy,1EPRS5bUm6USqLWZf5faBzZF2dXhHdyfgc,8-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Eammy)
Eeharris,1CfWWyDNUeioJc7TBnqDBDyQKJUYwT7S2Z,80-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Eeharris)
Emilianoz,1EykDePNj9311jvwcUaZczCjNFQ6Ep1zmi,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Emilianoz)
Estera,14VRNYCwocTSAyPprHnKx12Eim6jDBHYZq,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Estera)
Fheenix,1JvdsgxiJQYAJSE4Tjs3BWbXZk6Kw9mxnB,57-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Fheenix)
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,7-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)
Glongsword,1CRfD8qjUd8uKnYX35oxz8qAYrCnn2Zryc,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Glongsword)
Grantbills,1Dz6fEZma7bUwnGo44yRjgduP71cWtkgS4,27-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Grantbills)
Heliumbm,1Fm4p5nVbKxaYaQz4kuANQG2scDBLRvECJ,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Heliumbm)
Hellinoos,19xyjSda5tHdkdyYCSsEp9Psq9ELgKJrJd,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Hellinoos)
Hemingway,1Mrin7GnKsBPJ78mqZiChKzNtY5WC84WFZ,25-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Hemingway)
JackRussell,1CcWpm9HSqZwE96H3SeB7V1QGUhGHfxJh,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:JackRussell)
Lawyer,13B9eDYgwTdhfWHgQXYT8EWNpL3uV4Ffie,77-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Lawyer)
Matt2416,19wkReFDngXWYvqrC7g96SD3uuqR5P8ahX,15-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Matt2416)
Maximilian_Wilhelm,1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9,50-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Maximilian_Wilhelm)
Metazilla,1CJSRunQtPQsiZRK7vznyeCfyDTb2kxGA8,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Metazilla)
Moxy_Jane,184yBE6BY5WRpUvj7pzXjdRaemUByHvgx3,14-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Moxy_Jane)
Odolvlobo,1dmnkVoTBRLvJMSpRGnVMvFR7ygsKz3s4,6-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Odolvlobo)
Operaficionado,19FLaursDZbNyB7Fvj4wjKXYcX8GrZkkGr,15-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Operaficionado)
Osoverflow,1AzAEfFAcctucZB9H2P5d8TRJQFLWyBJPf,2-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Osoverflow)
Raptorak,1ASdsZ1JUwtVXDfYBx7MRNMeHQ8J51pSRw,80-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Raptorak)
Shakezula,1AyjX2QpTYFnmMFnzD3A2sqosfrrMuKbcz,37-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Shakezula)
Shortstain,1NNRTWBA5PLVUwHsgCwQ6XTerak59VQCjL,68-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Shortstain)
Stealtheh,1KZBFKD7NpV7ndufLZfKDdQgRz8nfXEBDm,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Stealtheh)
The_Goat_Master,1KGxe5my4BWjt9CExxPTWBRLVfdfeB6Ery,8-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:The_Goat_Master)
Veruminnumeris,1KZZaLCMPTh9tiNZ7JDXeZUjr6yPYYwtGD,48-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Veruminnumeris)
Vilmanoella,14wvMyGUXvJpdW2GbKWCEsMDw5s5Ay2F4r,41-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Vilmanoella)
Wardsmith,1SbC9Y3b5eZkYtEd7dbtzD7eP6rtEMfj5,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Wardsmith)
Weisoq,1Cy9e1Yuwboj63XRkMkT6W6YsGDtYDrsUp,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Weisoq)
Wiser,1LpoMowMPEVWk2LaJUdAUNaK7gBDRA1r7F,34-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Wiser)
Xenophaux,1H5qJrnYG9pPzFZ2zbmKihymnB23ViEbXz,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Xenophaux)
Yungbull,1NgSfubWAAYrApH5rAe8RYcfdtQTNbWxbo,21-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Yungbull)

They are generated by devtome.py:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome.py

The word counts for each writer are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_24.csv

The word earnings were generated on 2013-06-12, and the total word counts follow below.

Collated Word Count: 133,628
Collated Weighted Word Count: 40,083
Images: 5
Original Word Count: 1,623,443
Total Word Count: 1,757,071
Total Weighted Word Count: 1,663,576

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June 13, 2013, 04:49:36 AM
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Everyone please check that your earnings are in the list at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/account_24.csv

The devtome earnings will be up for a day, in case someone did not get earnings because their invoice is badly formatted. If that is the case, I will run devtome.py again for only that person. In one day, the receiver files will be made.

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June 13, 2013, 04:50:36 AM
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Seems like Owsley is just bashing DevCoin because he doesn't want competition.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233065.msg2457266#msg2457266

In case he tries to delete his post:


why? lol maybe they could rethink their efforts into a real content based coin to compete with the one me and Yoshatoshi is about to launch! ;-)*WATCH!*

haha ya blast that everywhere!~ Yoshatoshi and me go wayyyy back! ;-) weeeeeee

>Blast that everywhere
>Only quoted it on here.

What does going back have to do with the previous statement? Are you refusing to answer, because you know it's correct? Please try and troll me harder bro. We already have caps, arrows in almost every post, what do you have left bro, you already did the SpyWare card.

Devcoin client designed to compromise your hard drive via keystroke logger thingy~it watches u

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June 13, 2013, 04:55:05 AM
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One of the writers on devtome, Wiser, posted this article outlining their experience and ideas for the project. I think it's definitely worth a read and some thinking through:  http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces

I just realized I need to add a section about number of words rewarded per month.  I will post it once I do.

Also, I know I am missing details about how shares are divided up.  If anyone has an article which clarifies that and is more accurate, please pm me and I will link to it  Smiley

I think I have a solution to determine a pay structure. We should go with a meritocracy based around a badge system. These badges would act as rank and determine how much each writer gets paid.

This way you would have granularity, merit, reward for quality, and reward for work. This badge system could also apply to programmers, musicians, or anything else. In order to get a basic level badge an individual would have to pass an exam. This exam should cost some coins and this would prevent spammers. The exam process would make it easier for Fuzzybear or whomever to review works. Perhaps eventually let random community members or even pay individuals to review them. The initial badge would declare that the individual meets the minimum qualification to be recognized as a writer, a programmer, or whatever.

Then over time reward with different higher level badges. These different badges will act as rank and as long as the writer continues to write their pay grade will be a bit higher based on the quality of their previous work as recognized by their badge. There should be different sorts of badges passed around throughout the community which recognize different kinds of competency.

Integrity for example is very valuable no matter if you're a writer, programmer or anything else and a lot of us would rather see the rewards go to community members with proven integrity. This would act similar to ebay or amazon where people maintain a good reputation and can get business but scammers and cheats don't. The better the reputation and integrity of the artist, developer, etc, the greater the portion of shares they should get.

This would allow for the community to reward qualities not just of the work itself, but of the author or developer themselves and factor that into how much they get paid. For instance if Fin Shaggy is known to be a man of honor and integrity then he eventually will receive a badge and that badge will allow him to be recognized for that in pay rank. If Fin Shaggy is also known to be very competent at writing then he could get a badge for that and be recognized for that and get the $50 per share rate but the next person who does not have that badge or who isn't known as being a very competent writer, they'll have to focus more on earning the badge than on just pumping out low quality content. This will force them to actually care about the quality of their work for the badge.

The badge should be difficult to revoke if it's an integrity badge. If it's a competency badge then it should be permanent for writers because if a writer proves they can produce a good piece of art work or software that should be enough. The next step would be to create ranks which are even higher than badges which I'll call medals. Give the medals out to the truly exceptional people. It works very well in sports such as professional boxing or basketball where the champions and gold medalists are recognized as being the best and get the sponsorships.

This way established writers with good reputations for producing quality work will have badges, medals, and other qualifications and these should determine the worth of their shares. This way it's not marketing, it's not word count, it's not equally distributed like communism,  it's merit and competency and these badges could stay with the developer no matter what coin they use in the future. If Ethicoin, Devcoin, Bitcoin, Litecoin or Futurecoin becomes popular these badges will still have established the merit and rank and would persist throughout all of that.

This way I'll immediately know which among you are talented at whatever, which among you are knowledgeable or skilled, and which among you are honorable.

Here's the section I added to my article:  I added a section to my above article dealing with capping the number of shares per writer per month.  

Here it is:  http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces&#capping_the_number_of_shares_per_round

I like what LuckyBit wrote about badges and medals--it has a lot of merit and should be considered in light of the larger vision of Devcoin and Devtome.  LuckyBit, do you write for Devtome?  If so, maybe you could put the above in an article and I can add a link to it in my article.  If you get an article on the Devtome, please PM me and I'll link to it.

Okay anyone who supports my idea should show my idea to unthinkingbit, I believe that is the lead developer. Also Wiser you should write about my idea because you're good at explaining stuff, just give credit to me by citing the source.
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June 13, 2013, 05:01:15 AM
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DVC has becoming less and less valuable, is nobody buying this coin anymore?

I'm still accumulating it but I'm gonna wait a couple weeks for it to bottom. So far I bought at .00041 and at $.00021.

Now is actually prime time to buy, since people are getting paid the price is just dropping and dropping.

It's funny that it is just limited number of people who are writing that actually are doing the dumping, yet those are the same ones who believe in the project enough to write.. they certainly love that price is above 0 so they can recieve something for their writing however we need to show them that there is a reason to HOLD instead of dumping and they will get far more $$ in the future than what you would get today. In that way DVC is more of an investment tool aswell as a means to get paid for work. When this happens you shoudl see price will only go up, as there are more and more people willing to chip in minor amounts to buy... it adds up over time.

The miners who do shared mining and dump as soon as they get any DVC are another story, I'm not sure how to give them incentive to hold the dvc, but I suspect that unless your using an ASIC right now you won't be moving the market much with your mined DVC so they are really a small part of the problem.

I completely agree. As one of the writers, I am against the dumping mentality. It's only going to hurt things. If everyone is dumping, that's a sign that nobody wants the currency. If nobody wants it, there's no value. If there's no value... it's worthless.

We have to get demand up while decreasing the supply (less selling!).

Dumping isn't the problem. Uncoordinated dumping is. Perhaps it should be coordinated so the buying and dumping happens at once. Perhaps offer a service to automatically pay writers dividends in Bitcoin on a regular basis instead of giving them all of their Devcoins at once. This way the dumping is coordinated.

ASICminer Devcoin passthrough is an example of how you can make people hold onto Devcoins. Honestly I don't think it will be enough but I do think if I had a lot of Devcoins I would want to invest with it.
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Sheer number of posts is the goal, maybe? hundreds of posts on some obscure thread no-one in the investments section reads then show up there with a scam as a "hero member" ?

When DeVCoins are over $10, BiTCoins should be over $10,000 ...

-MarkM-

never speculate on correlated figures they dont apply linearly. Luckybit has a good idea but only problem hownis it different than out current financial structure? We rely on someone to promote to have power to approve.. needs to be automated way even then it is flawed... im not sure what the solution is my friend but it has to be more thought out and subtle so easy rhat a dummy would apply and recieve dvc for work u know what im sayin?
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The round 24 devtome word earnings are pasted below and at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_earnings_24.csv

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Alyssa85,1ERn5JRTm5P47LzhiLCbKtduwj9M3cPE81,7-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Alyssa85)
Ashleysly,1Mdu9MbAEsUm81NzEPQR7GCkUxbG39pWMy,9-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Ashleysly)
Atruk,1x1yenCV3GxoiGPjpE1iykCH9kcmS8fsr,3-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Atruk)
Balthozar,1kFhM8vtEzbZ43Z5wcadPvNrb4xFXbgze,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Balthozar)
Barnacle_Ed,16xxKVrtDxTuEJhADUxVmZK94im43RXi45,33-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Barnacle_Ed)
BitcoinAlchemist,1JBmwfJ4HmxTDDYwZY1rC63xR9h8Usqtat,16-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:BitcoinAlchemist)
Bmlzootown,1Dx6QsUh2BjcYSkFdFtrCRC9Xx5fDJWeHp,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Bmlzootown)
Boelens,1PZ4yQmyi4JsfhUUHJiNs15gt98MreQXw1,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Boelens)
Ceebizcut,1M5haKYJ8PJ43kHTs6okSBLj5gUhLRQiUJ,7-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Ceebizcut)
Cryptobyte,1HwxMzbFqZfyE6HaR2D3keJQ1ync1V5UQR,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Cryptobyte)
Cryptopi,19GkNDjmTiGsmyCijGx6tpXdT67W3rNPHE,38-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Cryptopi)
DeadSea33,1A9qwtctYmYrCKSegy7RrNCUJxuohwFQmD,60-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:DeadSea33)
Devtome_Writer,17wwzTrWrk1buS9bxEFdgTsvhiyrDakBZe,10-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Devtome_Writer)
Dexter,18jMxk8jqwvgpx4wT48VAb6jGbYNazz4b7,59-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Dexter)
Diamondcardz,18q45dAKGakQdPkjrg17NrfdiFGKWULwSJ,2-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Diamondcardz)
Eammy,1EPRS5bUm6USqLWZf5faBzZF2dXhHdyfgc,8-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Eammy)
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Emilianoz,1EykDePNj9311jvwcUaZczCjNFQ6Ep1zmi,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Emilianoz)
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Fheenix,1JvdsgxiJQYAJSE4Tjs3BWbXZk6Kw9mxnB,57-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Fheenix)
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Hellinoos,19xyjSda5tHdkdyYCSsEp9Psq9ELgKJrJd,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Hellinoos)
Hemingway,1Mrin7GnKsBPJ78mqZiChKzNtY5WC84WFZ,25-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Hemingway)
JackRussell,1CcWpm9HSqZwE96H3SeB7V1QGUhGHfxJh,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:JackRussell)
Lawyer,13B9eDYgwTdhfWHgQXYT8EWNpL3uV4Ffie,77-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Lawyer)
Matt2416,19wkReFDngXWYvqrC7g96SD3uuqR5P8ahX,15-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Matt2416)
Maximilian_Wilhelm,1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9,50-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Maximilian_Wilhelm)
Metazilla,1CJSRunQtPQsiZRK7vznyeCfyDTb2kxGA8,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Metazilla)
Moxy_Jane,184yBE6BY5WRpUvj7pzXjdRaemUByHvgx3,14-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Moxy_Jane)
Odolvlobo,1dmnkVoTBRLvJMSpRGnVMvFR7ygsKz3s4,6-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Odolvlobo)
Operaficionado,19FLaursDZbNyB7Fvj4wjKXYcX8GrZkkGr,15-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Operaficionado)
Osoverflow,1AzAEfFAcctucZB9H2P5d8TRJQFLWyBJPf,2-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Osoverflow)
Raptorak,1ASdsZ1JUwtVXDfYBx7MRNMeHQ8J51pSRw,80-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Raptorak)
Shakezula,1AyjX2QpTYFnmMFnzD3A2sqosfrrMuKbcz,37-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Shakezula)
Shortstain,1NNRTWBA5PLVUwHsgCwQ6XTerak59VQCjL,68-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Shortstain)
Stealtheh,1KZBFKD7NpV7ndufLZfKDdQgRz8nfXEBDm,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Stealtheh)
The_Goat_Master,1KGxe5my4BWjt9CExxPTWBRLVfdfeB6Ery,8-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:The_Goat_Master)
Veruminnumeris,1KZZaLCMPTh9tiNZ7JDXeZUjr6yPYYwtGD,48-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Veruminnumeris)
Vilmanoella,14wvMyGUXvJpdW2GbKWCEsMDw5s5Ay2F4r,41-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Vilmanoella)
Wardsmith,1SbC9Y3b5eZkYtEd7dbtzD7eP6rtEMfj5,4-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Wardsmith)
Weisoq,1Cy9e1Yuwboj63XRkMkT6W6YsGDtYDrsUp,1-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Weisoq)
Wiser,1LpoMowMPEVWk2LaJUdAUNaK7gBDRA1r7F,34-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Wiser)
Xenophaux,1H5qJrnYG9pPzFZ2zbmKihymnB23ViEbXz,5-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Xenophaux)
Yungbull,1NgSfubWAAYrApH5rAe8RYcfdtQTNbWxbo,21-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:Yungbull)

They are generated by devtome.py:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome.py

The word counts for each writer are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_24.csv

The word earnings were generated on 2013-06-12, and the total word counts follow below.

Collated Word Count: 133,628
Collated Weighted Word Count: 40,083
Images: 5
Original Word Count: 1,623,443
Total Word Count: 1,757,071
Total Weighted Word Count: 1,663,576



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June 13, 2013, 05:05:39 AM
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Sheer number of posts is the goal, maybe? hundreds of posts on some obscure thread no-one in the investments section reads then show up there with a scam as a "hero member" ?

When DeVCoins are over $10, BiTCoins should be over $10,000 ...

-MarkM-

never speculate on correlated figures they dont apply linearly. Luckybit has a good idea but only problem hownis it different than out current financial structure? We rely on someone to promote to have power to approve.. needs to be automated way even then it is flawed... im not sure what the solution is my friend but it has to be more thought out and subtle so easy rhat a dummy would apply and recieve dvc for work u know what im sayin?

BBanker zombies vs. Robotzzz lol

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