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June 04, 2013, 04:23:30 PM
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The point is that if the quality of a submission leaves something to be desired it raises just a small red flag, but when that same submission would also account for a huge chunk of all shares it raises some more red flags, bigger ones this time.

It's the disparity of quality versus potential gain for the author that makes a submission at least worth to be checked and in this particular case the author was to gain a whole lot for - in my personal opinion - very little. Of course it's difficult to quantify that disparity or the quality of an article, the only easily identifiable factor is the profit for the author. That makes it nigh impossible to draw a clear cut-off line between worthy and unworthy articles and I think in the long run Devtome will require either staff moderation or community voting to keep things fair.

A separate blather section, as proposed by Unthinkingbit, and a share cap might be good additional tools to improve distribution fairness.
I don't follow all the logic there, but such a view appears to be the general consensus so I'll leave it at that. It's also quite straightforward to first contact the writer oneself in the event of such a contention; resolving it politely and without fanfare.

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June 04, 2013, 04:50:00 PM
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I don't follow all the logic there, but such a view appears to be the general consensus so I'll leave it at that. It's also quite straightforward to first contact the writer oneself in the event of such a contention; resolving it politely and without fanfare.

I voiced concerns about needed guidelines and pointed to the cause, there was nothing to resolve personally, especially since I'm neither calling the shots nor ever claimed to have a consensus on my side. Any kind of personal request to the author would have been inappropriate.

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June 04, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
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The most prolific author over the last month was Lawyer:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:lawyer

who wrote 76,832 words:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_10001.csv

so he gets the tablet:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,2702.msg19779.html#msg19779

the lotto ranges for the remaining writers are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/lotto.csv

the next megamillions draw:
http://www.megamillions.com/numbers/

will be on Tuesday night, so the lottery winner will be declared on Wednesday.


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wow, that's great, I had no idea there was a prize for 1st.  Anybody know how many shares were in round 24 - my gut feeling is around 900?  Looks like a lot of new writers and also much more writing than in round 23.  The word is getting out for sure.....and fast.  TIA

It was a separate contest I ran actually Cheesy

Apparently I missed out on a lot of things: shares increased from 60 to 80 max, rollover being added, a contest, lol.

I'd have had that if I knew about the changes, :p. I was told that posting more than 60k would not benefit because there would be no rollover into the next month, and 60 shares was the max.

Oh well, grats!

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June 04, 2013, 06:05:26 PM
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The most prolific author over the last month was Lawyer:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:lawyer

who wrote 76,832 words:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_10001.csv

so he gets the tablet:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,2702.msg19779.html#msg19779

the lotto ranges for the remaining writers are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/lotto.csv

the next megamillions draw:
http://www.megamillions.com/numbers/

will be on Tuesday night, so the lottery winner will be declared on Wednesday.


CONGRATS!  Please pm me your delivery address when you get a chance.


wow, that's great, I had no idea there was a prize for 1st.  Anybody know how many shares were in round 24 - my gut feeling is around 900?  Looks like a lot of new writers and also much more writing than in round 23.  The word is getting out for sure.....and fast.  TIA

It was a separate contest I ran actually Cheesy

Apparently I missed out on a lot of things: shares increased from 60 to 80 max, rollover being added, a contest, lol.

I'd have had that if I knew about the changes, :p. I was told that posting more than 60k would not benefit because there would be no rollover into the next month, and 60 shares was the max.

Oh well, grats!

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June 04, 2013, 06:07:27 PM
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The most prolific author over the last month was Lawyer:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:lawyer

who wrote 76,832 words:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_10001.csv

so he gets the tablet:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,2702.msg19779.html#msg19779

the lotto ranges for the remaining writers are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/lotto.csv

the next megamillions draw:
http://www.megamillions.com/numbers/

will be on Tuesday night, so the lottery winner will be declared on Wednesday.


CONGRATS!  Please pm me your delivery address when you get a chance.


wow, that's great, I had no idea there was a prize for 1st.  Anybody know how many shares were in round 24 - my gut feeling is around 900?  Looks like a lot of new writers and also much more writing than in round 23.  The word is getting out for sure.....and fast.  TIA

It was a separate contest I ran actually Cheesy

Apparently I missed out on a lot of things: shares increased from 60 to 80 max, rollover being added, a contest, lol.

I'd have had that if I knew about the changes, :p. I was told that posting more than 60k would not benefit because there would be no rollover into the next month, and 60 shares was the max.

Oh well, grats!

I Ran it independently. Had nothing to do with dvc directly.

Oh, it's fine! I haven't kept up so much lately as I've been working on a dvc-related project myself, ^_^. More info will be shared "soon." I think in a couple days, assuming everything works as I hope.

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June 04, 2013, 08:02:31 PM
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I don't follow all the logic there, but such a view appears to be the general consensus so I'll leave it at that. It's also quite straightforward to first contact the writer oneself in the event of such a contention; resolving it politely and without fanfare.

I voiced concerns about needed guidelines and pointed to the cause, there was nothing to resolve personally, especially since I'm neither calling the shots nor ever claimed to have a consensus on my side. Any kind of personal request to the author would have been inappropriate.

Up-to-date data about shares etc.:
http://d.evco.in/charity/

That's really hard to read so I'm gonna go with Weisoq's number of roughly 900.  That's to be expected given the quickly growing popularity of devcoin and devtome.

I personally wonder what will happen to the quality of writers, artists, programmers, etc as shares go down in value.  Not many educated or talented people will work for $20 per day, at least not in the western world.  But it is a good sign for devcoin in general and I did expect exponential growth followed by logarithmic growth in the coming months.

One last thing - I thought the 24th round wasn't over until block 93,300?  Is that not the case or are new submissions not expected this late in the round.  Cause there were a few close runner ups to "Lawyer", and if there's a few days left we may indeed have a new (final) winner.


Edit:  I just noticed there's a feature built in which allows a rollover for people who may have gone over the max cap of 80 shares.  Although I burned out long before 80 shares - That's really nice, I had no idea.

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June 04, 2013, 08:12:51 PM
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Coinzen was bought for an all crypto forum. The first person who makes an all crypto forum which can send and receive email:

1) To be able to send a message to an email address, and receive email in the forum inbox. In other words, a forum message to unthinkingbit would go to my forum account, and a message to unthinkingbit@gmail.com would go to my gmail account.

will get twelve shares, plus two million devcoins, and the domain holders will direct their domain to the forum. Mark, Jasin and Emfox hold the .org, .com, and .net domains in trust for the forum. There are few short, pronounceable, completely available coin domains remaining. Jasin and I searched through many domain names to find coinzen.

There will also be smaller bounties, probably around six shares, for founders and admins of existing forums, like devcointalk.org, coinversation.org, and cryptocointalk.com, to join as admins. People want to build their own forums and hope that their forum will take off, but having several forums weakens threads, and makes big projects harder to accomplish. In the normal course of events, eventually one forum would get most of the posters, but in the meantime, people will be wasting a lot of time posting on several forums, instead of getting things done.

Since we use cryptocoins, we're also the best group to finally stop email spam by making spammers pay:

2) When an email comes in which is from an address not on my whitelist (which would include contacts and people I've emailed before), the sender would get a message saying they could pay say 30 cents in a cryptocurrency to send an email to me. This would stop spam, and part of the money would go to maintaining the forum.

It'll take a lot of effort to make another coin forum with email, but in the end we'll have a popular all crypto forum with spam proof email.

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June 04, 2013, 08:23:10 PM
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That's really hard to read...
receiver_summary.txt is the summary for everything - currently 955
devtome_24.csv gives running totals for previous and current round

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June 05, 2013, 04:33:15 AM
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Hi,
Is there anybody helping me to understand what is this lottery thing, how frequent it is, how the numbers are chosen, what prize (apart from the tablet) you are talking about?
Sorry for the dumb question.  Grin
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June 05, 2013, 04:36:58 AM
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Hi,
Is there anybody helping me to understand what is this lottery thing, how frequent it is, how the numbers are chosen, what prize (apart from the tablet) you are talking about?
Sorry for the dumb question.  Grin


Its over a few days ago, I setup the contest alone. Unthinkingbit is acting as referee here and being the impartial outsider choosing the winning person. Cheesy

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June 05, 2013, 04:39:53 AM
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Thank you jasenlee,
It was for sure a nice idea.
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June 05, 2013, 04:41:56 AM
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Thank you jasenlee,
It was for sure a nice idea.


Lawyer got the first one, we will see soon who gets the next Cheesy

If I can afford it I will do more in the future also.

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June 05, 2013, 04:57:06 AM
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That's really hard to read...
receiver_summary.txt is the summary for everything - currently 955
devtome_24.csv gives running totals for previous and current round

Lol.  Thanks.  I didn't even see that when I scanned that entire thing.  It looked like 20 pages of words mixed together with no breaks.  955.  Man, my gut instinct was almost right on.

Round 25 is harder to call though.  The coin value has gone down quite a bit and many of the existing writers are probably a bit worn out.  The wild card is new writers and more importantly new members from abroad, namely Eastern Europe and Asia, where at even $20-$30 per day, it's not a bad deal.  

So round 25 could end up being a total sleeper (like round 22) or it could end up having closer to 1100 shares.  Really difficult to gauge at this point.

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June 05, 2013, 04:57:50 AM
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I like your attitude.

I hope your efforts will achieve results in the right direction, really helping this community to grow.

"May the Strength of mining be with you" ... I'm not sure, did you see any use of cryptocurrency in star wars? Just kidding.  Grin
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June 05, 2013, 04:59:27 AM
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Thank you jasenlee,
It was for sure a nice idea.


Lawyer got the first one, we will see soon who gets the next Cheesy

If I can afford it I will do more in the future also.

Man, a tablet, that was really nice.  I wish I had known about it.  Thanks for the financial effort, really good idea.

Edit:  I'm curious, Jaison, what would you have done if 2 or 3 guys hit the max cap of 80K?  I mean, right now there's at least 2 other guys besides lawyer at around 70K so it was really close.  Just curious cause a tablet is not exactly cheap. 

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June 05, 2013, 05:01:03 AM
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Thank you jasenlee,
It was for sure a nice idea.


Lawyer got the first one, we will see soon who gets the next Cheesy

If I can afford it I will do more in the future also.

Man, a tablet, that was really nice.  I wish I had known about it.  Thanks for the financial effort, really good idea.

Same. Found out why I didn't know, too... it was posted on an LTC forum. I don't follow that at all, :p.

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June 05, 2013, 05:04:37 AM
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This is my DVC logo, made a few days ago.
If you think it was a nice idea, maybe you can work on it. There is always room for improvement.





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June 05, 2013, 05:05:34 AM
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Thank you jasenlee,
It was for sure a nice idea.


Lawyer got the first one, we will see soon who gets the next Cheesy

If I can afford it I will do more in the future also.

Man, a tablet, that was really nice.  I wish I had known about it.  Thanks for the financial effort, really good idea.

Same. Found out why I didn't know, too... it was posted on an LTC forum. I don't follow that at all, :p.


Lol, I saw that too.   Maybe Jaisn is trying to tell us something - time to venture out of the nest a bit.  I've been out on the Romanian forum, ixCoin, and a couple other ones.  Devcoin is only one of my favorite coins - I'm trying to cover my bases for when Bitcoin 2.0 strikes again.

Good luck!

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This is my DVC logo, made a few days ago.
If you think it was a nice idea, maybe you can work on it. There is always room for improvement.





It's one of my favorite designs - definitely in the top 3.  How much longer before a winner is chosen?  There has to be 15 submissions by now.

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Thank you jasenlee,
It was for sure a nice idea.


Lawyer got the first one, we will see soon who gets the next Cheesy

If I can afford it I will do more in the future also.

Man, a tablet, that was really nice.  I wish I had known about it.  Thanks for the financial effort, really good idea.

Same. Found out why I didn't know, too... it was posted on an LTC forum. I don't follow that at all, :p.


Lol, I saw that too.   Maybe Jaisn is trying to tell us something - time to venture out of the nest a bit.  I've been out on the Romanian forum, ixCoin, and a couple other ones.  Devcoin is only one of my favorite coins - I'm trying to cover my bases for when Bitcoin 2.0 strikes again.

Good luck!

Well the ltc forum, I think I cross posted it here. But on ltc forum I have my fpga project which has lots of followers so though it a good spot to start it out.

And no one ever told me if the QR worked ok for them too!

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