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June 01, 2013, 11:41:03 PM
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DVB Sponsor opportunity for round 23:

Since round 22 the DVB project offers a sponsoring opportunity for projects and websites:

The sponsor gets a exclusive display on https://devda.ch frontpage douring dividend round 23 and will be meantioned with link on https:/cryptostocks.com news.

All sponsored funds will be used 100% as a addition to the regular weekly dividend.

If you like to become a DVB sponsor please write to sponsoring @ devda.ch.

Minimum sponsoring amount for round 23 is 100 000 DVC.

Thank you all, for helping to make artificial scarcity obsolete.

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June 02, 2013, 01:21:00 AM
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Welcome!My p2pdvc bond is in cryptostocks.com. Kiss

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June 02, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
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the first thing devcoin needs is a liquid dvc/FIAT exchange market

Doesn't Vircurex already do that?





Also, I had a brainwave on the train ride home yesterday. DVC is designed to help out "makers" - the types of people who create things - right? Why not establish a site that sells raw materials and/or contracts between these makers...if and when they have a final product, it could even help them with selling it for fiat for additional income on top of whatever DVC income they receive from bounty and contracts.

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June 02, 2013, 02:54:09 AM
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Now this thread has got lots of pages... Hard to keep track when its all in one thread. Good thing theres www.devcointalk.org to discuss the possibilities to do with devcoin. I'd recommend to make new devcoin related threads and posts there.

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June 02, 2013, 02:42:05 PM
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how to write an article for devtome?
it's possible to write it directly on the site, or i need another site?

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June 02, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
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You upload it to an image hosting site like imgur or tinypic, then it will give you a link for image boards and forums. It will look like this without the **'s

[*IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/2uyj7lz.png[/*IMG]

And when pasted without the stars will work like this.



That is a HORRIBLE idea! We need to own the image, that is, have a copy of it ourselves, not depend on some third party site.

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June 02, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
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I upoaded an image to the root of the images galleries, but cannot find any working syntax for causing it to actually get displayed on a wiki page.

Anyone know how? Hopefully in a portable way that does not rely on directory structure but, rather, the namespace structure?
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I added the syntax description to:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing#earnings_per_image

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Because of a bug, images have to be part of a link to be displayed, the link can be to anything. An image link looks like:

[[link to anywhere|{{image file name}}]]

[[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg2084348#msg2084348|{{devcoin_button_fheenix.jpg}}]]

Many images can be seen in the devcoin gallery:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_gallery


Is there an info page about each image, so you can use as link the image's own page, like on wikipedia?

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June 02, 2013, 03:00:44 PM
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The Digitalis Open Transactions server has issued 220 million dDVC (digiDeVCoins) so far, corresponding to 220 million actual devcoins secured in cold wallet vaults.

Of those digiDeVCoins how many are in what account gets somewhat more political. I think Martian regulations only require corps to show any kind of balance sheets and such to shareholders who own 10% of the corp, so its not like you could buy one share of a corp to get a list of all the assets it holds...

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Thanks. Been doing some reading on open transactions and had a listen to an oldish cypherpunkd interview with fellow traveller. Appreciate you don’t speak for him and vice-versa, but have a few basic questions if you have a mo to entertain them:

(1) OT combines some digital cash concepts. It creates an untraceable, anonymising exchange for say btc, into any other currency type/basket etc. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, what's the basis for it's ability to legitimately do this but not exchange other (fiat?) into btc as a starting point?

(2) Following from (1), if it can't serve a role as a starting fiat exchange point does that infer that OT is treating all assets as virtual from the point of its involvement in a process, such that transactions/exchanges incorporating OT are dependant solely on the self-verifying nature of contracts created (i.e. all good so long as you know another party will accept your contract – e.g. an OT ‘US dollar’ as a US dollar etc?).

(3) A large part of what I’m reading seems to build upon the example of btc as the backing asset/currency, facilitating transactions rather than necessarily acting as the medium of exchange itself. Is the choice of Bitcoin purely circumstantial i.e. it could be any crypto really, or does this perhaps add weight to the idea of Bitcoin in its limited numbers serving a different monetary role to any actual medium of exchange proposition; rather as the backing medium or commodity.

(4) Following from (2), I’m left with a better appreciation of the growing blur between ‘real’ and ‘virtual’ assets. Frankly, what is a financial asset anyway, it seems a moot point which future cash flows are more imagined or real.

Hope that makes sense (posted here as the OT threads are more technical). Cheers

Open Transactions markets trade tokens, such as digiBiTCoins, digiDeVCoins and so on.

The issuer of the tokens creates a contract, and the hash of the contract is the ID of the asset, so changing the contract in any way would result in an entirely new different distinct separate asset.

In the case of dBTC, dDVC etc the contract pretty much is about there being real BTC, real DVC in cold storage that each token represents.

The problem with using fiat at all is all the laws about fiat that make fiat pretty much impractical to use.

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June 02, 2013, 03:45:10 PM
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Open Transactions markets trade tokens, such as digiBiTCoins, didiDeVCoins and so on.

The issuer of the tokens creates a contract, and the hash of the contract is the ID of the asset, so changing the contract in any way would result in an entirely new different distinct separate asset.

In the case of dBTC, dDVC etc the contract pretty much is about there being real BTC, real DVC in cold storage that each token represents.

The problem with using fiat at all is all the laws about fiat that make fiat pretty much impractical to use.

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Cheers. Re-reading my post not sure I made much sense, so the point I'm trying to make (from reading and listening to stuff from fellow traveller where he refers to fiat - so perhaps my conceptual misunderstanding):

If OT trades tokens how can it exchange tokens into fiat? Or is he then also referring to dUSD dJPY etc and it's a matter of agreement between buyer and seller whether thay perceive that dUSD or dJPYto have equal exchange value against something as a USD would have?

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June 02, 2013, 03:49:46 PM
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how to write an article for devtome?
it's possible to write it directly on the site, or i need another site?
Have a read through these:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

Create an account on devtome, then send a pm to me or fuzzybear with a short sample (just 50-100 words) to ensure it's not a duplicate/bot account and we will activate it. Feel free to post more questions or pm me if you have more questions.

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June 02, 2013, 04:07:47 PM
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I did some digging into why devcoin's difficulty is increasing so much. Vircurex says the hash rate is around 6thash. A list of recent devcoin coinbase are:
Code:
"5b323031332d30362d30325431333a33313a33362e3436323531375a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"04c02d151a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431333a34313a35382e3432353934345a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"04ca0f151a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431343a31363a32332e3439373238385a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431343a33313a32332e3533303138385a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"049aec141a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431343a35383a34352e3234303439385a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"044cee141a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a30363a34392e3439373934395a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a31313a35362e3631323439335a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a32303a35372e3139303232355a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a32323a31352e3234383030325a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a33303a34382e3435303432395a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a33353a30342e3630353339305a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
Eleven out of those 15 are the long coinbase which contains the string "Made in China" when translated to ASCII. This appears to be a bitcoin pool that is currently only identified by the string in the coinbase. An example of a bitcoin block of theirs. I assume from the coinbase string these are the same miners. Looks like they have a substantial hash rate! They could also be the ones dumping coins.
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June 02, 2013, 04:12:09 PM
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Reposted from another thread...

Is it possible to get devcoins for original art? While I like to write, my primary creative skill is photography.

I can see that there might be problems with accepting photos. While even the lowest quality writing takes time and effort, it takes no effort to snap a random picture. Maybe the photos could be curated. Also, plagiarism is easy. Tineye might cut down on that problem.

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June 02, 2013, 04:15:49 PM
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If OT trades tokens how can it exchange tokens into fiat? Or is he then also referring to dUSD dJPY etc and it's a matter of agreement between buyer and seller whether thay perceive that dUSD or dJPYto have equal exchange value against something as a USD would have?

Take that up with the fiat authorities, me I don't touch the stuff as I said it is impractical to even try.

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June 02, 2013, 04:18:03 PM
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I did some digging into why devcoin's difficulty is increasing so much. Vircurex says the hash rate is around 6thash. A list of recent devcoin coinbase are:
Code:
"5b323031332d30362d30325431333a33313a33362e3436323531375a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"04c02d151a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431333a34313a35382e3432353934345a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"04ca0f151a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431343a31363a32332e3439373238385a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431343a33313a32332e3533303138385a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"049aec141a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431343a35383a34352e3234303439385a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"044cee141a010152"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a30363a34392e3439373934395a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a31313a35362e3631323439335a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a32303a35372e3139303232355a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a32323a31352e3234383030325a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a33303a34382e3435303432395a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
"5b323031332d30362d30325431353a33353a30342e3630353339305a5d20e4b8ade59c8be8a3bde980a0204d61646520696e204368696e61"
Eleven out of those 15 are the long coinbase which contains the string "Made in China" when translated to ASCII. This appears to be a bitcoin pool that is currently only identified by the string in the coinbase. An example of a bitcoin block of theirs. I assume from the coinbase string these are the same miners. Looks like they have a substantial hash rate! They could also be the ones dumping coins.

Maybe some of the ASIC makers are finally using p2pool to set up merged mining instead of wasting all their ASICs on bitcoin alone?

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June 02, 2013, 04:20:57 PM
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Does payout start in 80 blocks? or was that backed up to 93300 with the script?

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June 02, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
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Is it possible to get devcoins for original art? While I like to write, my primary creative skill is photography.

I can see that there might be problems with accepting photos. While even the lowest quality writing takes time and effort, it takes no effort to snap a random picture. Maybe the photos could be curated. Also, plagiarism is easy. Tineye might cut down on that problem.


Another solution might be to set up some kind of presence on sites like Flickr or DeviantArt, or maybe scan the sites for images with devcoin tags and addresses. This kind of solution could be extended to music and video, too.

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June 02, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
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https://devda.ch is proud to announce that http://lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/ is accepting DEVCOIN

https://devda.ch/content/lpp-accepting-devcoins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49p0cZEisTA

LPP DVC Address: 1JJLXvZ9FX8zA8vvBNFtpAr8KBD2mRGi5G

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Lawrenceville Plasma Physics has published peer-reviewed results in Physics of Plasmas confirming that the firm's Focus Fusion-1 machine has achieved the highest energy magnetic confinement of a fusion fuel ever, for any device, representing two of three criteria for net fusion energy.  Translation: Garage-sized fusion generators could be possible in as few as five years.

@Unthinkingbit, since that address is generation share capable, i suggest to put that address on the Generation Share list.

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https://devda.ch is proud to announce that http://lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/ is accepting DEVCOIN

https://devda.ch/content/lpp-accepting-devcoins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49p0cZEisTA

LPP DVC Address: 1JJLXvZ9FX8zA8vvBNFtpAr8KBD2mRGi5G

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Lawrenceville Plasma Physics has published peer-reviewed results in Physics of Plasmas confirming that the firm's Focus Fusion-1 machine has achieved the highest energy magnetic confinement of a fusion fuel ever, for any device, representing two of three criteria for net fusion energy.  Translation: Garage-sized fusion generators could be possible in as few as five years.

@Unthinkingbit, since that address is generation share capable, i suggest to put that address on the Generation Share list.


It is nice to know that another site is contributing to devcoin. +1 for the economy!

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June 02, 2013, 11:44:19 PM
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https://devda.ch is proud to announce that http://lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/ is accepting DEVCOIN

https://devda.ch/content/lpp-accepting-devcoins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49p0cZEisTA

LPP DVC Address: 1JJLXvZ9FX8zA8vvBNFtpAr8KBD2mRGi5G

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Lawrenceville Plasma Physics has published peer-reviewed results in Physics of Plasmas confirming that the firm's Focus Fusion-1 machine has achieved the highest energy magnetic confinement of a fusion fuel ever, for any device, representing two of three criteria for net fusion energy.  Translation: Garage-sized fusion generators could be possible in as few as five years.

@Unthinkingbit, since that address is generation share capable, i suggest to put that address on the Generation Share list.


It is nice to know that another site is contributing to devcoin. +1 for the economy!

Thank you ashleysly!
I just got this from LPP:

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On the open source, I think if there was Kickstarter or similar around when we were looking at pursuing the research as a nonprofit, it would have been a very good route.  Now we're a bit locked in with our investors, but the company intends to make licenses available to nonprofits that would distribute the tech where it otherwise would be out of reach.

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https://devda.ch is proud to announce that http://lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/ is accepting DEVCOIN

https://devda.ch/content/lpp-accepting-devcoins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49p0cZEisTA

LPP DVC Address: 1JJLXvZ9FX8zA8vvBNFtpAr8KBD2mRGi5G

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Lawrenceville Plasma Physics has published peer-reviewed results in Physics of Plasmas confirming that the firm's Focus Fusion-1 machine has achieved the highest energy magnetic confinement of a fusion fuel ever, for any device, representing two of three criteria for net fusion energy.  Translation: Garage-sized fusion generators could be possible in as few as five years.

@Unthinkingbit, since that address is generation share capable, i suggest to put that address on the Generation Share list.


Wow nice work this is just amazing Grin

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