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May 23, 2013, 01:53:48 AM
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thanks but I didn't delete anything.  I only cut and pasted and what didn't transfer I clicked on skip so it left those files on C and I can see all the receiver files and dat files are still on C.  So it only transferred the bigger files from the devcoin client.  I guess those smaller files were opened even though I closed the client.

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May 23, 2013, 02:11:17 AM
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All right everyone, after some sweating I've added Devcoin to ALTcointip bot, so now you can go spread awareness among Redditors Wink

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May 23, 2013, 02:14:45 AM
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I had 1,000,000 devcoins on one of my computer's C drives and I wanted to transfer it to a different G drive so I could keep that drive unplugged (hot swappable) just for added security.  So I cut and paste my entire user file from C to G cause I wanted to make sure everything was copied over.

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Problem was some files would not transfer saying they were in use even though I closed everything that had to do with devcoin.  some of these files were log files and some dat files.  I think what happed was the wallet.dat file didn't transfer over cause when I tried to pull up the wallet in the G drive my entire 1 million coins were gone.  I paid $400 for these coins 2 weeks ago so this is costing more than that desktop is worth.

I would guess you did not actually close devcoin, but minimized it to the tray.  So locked files did not get copied over. When you ran it off of G it could not find a wallet.dat and so made a new one.

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so then I realized the mistake I made and saw that the wallet.dat file was still on the C drive because I did NOT delete anything.  So I then copied and pasted everything from G back to C hoping it would just combine everything missing with everything that got left over.

copy is not a combining operation, at this point the filesystem replaced your c wallet.dat with the one you just told it to copy from G that was newly made it seems.
 
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But no, when I open the devcoin wallet it's a totally new wallet with different address and my previous addresses are gone and so is the 1,000,000 devcoins 

I didn't delete anything so the coins have to be on there somewhere.  Can anybody help me out.  I really don't wanna lose this many coins.  Thanks.


you did both an attempted delete with the cut, and you overwrote any existing wallet.dat left if that failed when you copied back from G.  So yeah, you did delete and overwrite things.   At this point you should have turned off the computer and not let anything else be written to the drives.   Now, you would take them out and run a program that searched for bdb patterns and key patterns, in the hope that at the raw sector level the data was left, and it reallocated things.   If not and it is a magnetic drive you have a slim chance a consumer grade data recovery place can get to it, very slim.     If is is ssd there are some other tricks to try, but also pretty expensive to have done.

I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

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May 23, 2013, 02:59:14 AM
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I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone.

What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million.

If you agree to this, please message me a new address.

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May 23, 2013, 03:12:32 AM
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I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone.

What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million.

If you agree to this, please message me a new address.

I will kick in 100,000 DVC to your "I broke my wallet." fund also.

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May 23, 2013, 03:16:49 AM
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I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone.

What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million.

If you agree to this, please message me a new address.

I will kick in 100,000 DVC to your "I broke my wallet." fund also.

I'll kick in the 143,713 Unthinkingbit's proposal would have you sending to me in my capacity as a file administrator. (That is, don't bother sending me the 143,713.)

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May 23, 2013, 03:45:07 AM
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I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone.

What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million.

If you agree to this, please message me a new address.

I will kick in 100,000 DVC to your "I broke my wallet." Fund also.

No Worries,
whats the Address of the "I broke my wallet." Fund ?
Lets throw some DVC-Love at it Smiley

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May 23, 2013, 06:19:04 AM
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May 23, 2013, 08:55:52 AM
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Yeah I'll put some into the wallet if you give us your address. Vlad: ask questions if you're not sure before you play around with stuff. I know there was some moaning about your posts, but that was simply an issue of frequency and losing track of the thread; not a statement to keep quiet about something you feel excited/need help with.
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May 23, 2013, 09:32:53 AM
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Are you sure you don't have more addresses in the wallet?
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May 23, 2013, 09:40:37 AM
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@vlad have you tried to recover the wallet like twobits suggested, for example with recuva or something similar? I personally would at least try if it's about potentially a few hundred bucks

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May 23, 2013, 10:32:55 AM
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I think you are right.  Everything you just said adds up and details exactly what I did.  I'm out a fresh $400.  I should have left It at Vircurex but they got hacked twice in 2 months and I wanted to spread the risk by putting some coins on a cold drive.  Man, this hurts.  Thanks for you input.

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May 23, 2013, 10:43:20 AM
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I think you may have wiped out your file past your abilities to recover it if I read what you did accurately.

I agree with Twobits' excellent analysis. Unless a miracle happens, it's gone.

What can be done, is get a new address from your new wallet, then a test transaction will be sent to it. After it works, I'll change the file addresses and ask Mark to generate a new receiver, and all the other file administrators to upload it. This will give you 8,235,000 devcoins for your round 23 work. In return, as soon as you get about 1.1 million of them, you'll pay all the file administrators their typical salary of 2/5 of a share, which is 143,713 each this round. You'll also pay the people who helped on this thread, 143,713 for Twobits who wrote an informative post, and half that to FinShaggy and Jasinlee who wrote small posts. You'd end up with around 7 million.

If you agree to this, please message me a new address.


There's no need to do any of that since this was on my desktop.  Remember a few days ago I loaded a new wallet on there to see why the one on my laptop wasn't working?  And it turned out that the desktop wallet, which was the new client, wasn't working either so then I concluded it was the firewall and it was.  

Well, right after that I decided to transfer some devcoins, 1,000,000 from vircurex to that desktop (it's actually an old dell 1U server) because it has 4 scsi drives and I was planning to use one of them as a cold drive after reading that's what vircurex does to keep hackers from getting to the wallets.  

The problem was this new wallet (with the 1,000,000 in it) was on my C drive so I was at risk everytime I got on the net so I decided to cut the entire user file so I wouldn't make the mistake of transferring just a few files, to the 4th, G drive and that's when I messed up.  So now that wallet is gone and there's a new one running.

But the wallet I gave you is off my laptop and that one is ok.  So nothing has to be done on your end, I was just trying to see if anybody knew an easy way to restore that older wallet but that doesn't look possible.  But thanks for the advice, I hope other newbies can learn from my $400 mistake.

So no worries,  I'm good to go with my old, 1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9, wallet number.  Thanks.

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May 23, 2013, 10:50:09 AM
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@vlad have you tried to recover the wallet like twobits suggested, for example with recuva or something similar? I personally would at least try if it's about potentially a few hundred bucks


I didn't try that cause I didn't know where or how to begin.  but now that you gave me a name I'll look into it.  The main reason is that this $400 today may be worth much more next year so I might as well try now.  

This is a good example of what can go wrong with wallets so hopefully new people playing around with their computers will see this and get something out of it.  If this had happened after I got paid there would have been closer to 10 million coins on there as that cold drive was going to be my main holder of my devcoins.  Good lesson to learn on someone else's skin and for $400 instead of $4,000.

Thanks for the advice.  I don't want to take more time from relevant conversations.


And thanks to MarkM, Weisoq, finshaggy and the rest who so willingly offered to help with coins.  Very unexpected.  Thanks a lot.

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... So no worries,  I'm good to go with my old, 1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9, wallet number.  Thanks.
I've just sent a test (10 dvc) to that address. Can you let us know if you do/don't get it on your machine.
edit: ok I sent you some more. I can't afford 100k but something to get your wallet and maybe your zest going again, and only about 10 days until the devtome earnings.
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... So no worries,  I'm good to go with my old, 1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9, wallet number.  Thanks.
I've just sent a test (10 dvc) to that address. Can you let us know if you do/don't get it on your machine.


There it is!  I really appreciate it, man.  


Edit:  there's 27,394 now in there.  Anonymous or.....?  Thanks all the same.  I really didn't expect this.  

And if I ever recover the deleted coins I promise to return everyone's coins.  


Edit 2:  Thanks Weisoq...appreciate it.

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Is there qt wallet for mac? I've found the daemon but would love an app!
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Is there qt wallet for mac? I've found the daemon but would love an app!

Actually if you found https://www.box.com/s/ntna8dibxek351s42fxu , it has both the daemon and a gui version.  However the gui version is not packaged up into an App format yet.  That is next on the list,  just was waiting for a reason to need to do new builds.  However,  if you go to where you unpacked it and run the file devcoin instead of devcoind you should get a gui version popping up.


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May 23, 2013, 03:09:01 PM
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Oh thank you, I will give that another look, didnt realize one was a GUI!
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May 23, 2013, 03:15:08 PM
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Oh thank you, I will give that another look, didnt realize one was a GUI!

I saw you looking for ixcoin earlier as well, did you find that and my namecoin builds yet?

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