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May 20, 2013, 12:46:47 PM
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Mods, let me know if it's best to open a new thread and link this portion to that thread so we don't get however many posts with people's account on this thread.  I'm still learning all this stuff and didn't realize some people get upset at non-relevant posts which I think giving away devcoins is.

I have to step out but I'll check back later. 

Some feedback please, would it be best to do just the first 25 new accounts as 100 is to many or is 100 better to reach more people.  There's 100,000 devcoins total.

I wasn't attacking you in any sort of way, you didn't accuse me of such but I am just clarifying. I get on here after school/work so reading through long posts like that before writing or trading or firing up the miner takes precious time away from those things. Giving away DVC is relevant in my opinions because it is helping to boost the economy. I too plan on starting a faucet when I get paid next month, after I invest in a decent mining rig. It's good to see someone new who is so enthused about the whole thing, just try to keep your posts short, concise, and to the point if you don't mind.


Absolutely, no offense taken.  I just wanted to let you know I get it and I'll be more aware of it.  If you felt that way I'm sure others do too so I wanna add value not piss people off.

What rig do you wanna get.  Just and FYI, and this is relevant, lol, I bought a $1700 computer with an 8 core FX 8350, dual ATI 7850 GPUs (it's all about the GPUs for now), the works and it didn't do anything mining wise. per 24 hours running nonstop I got .27 or so litecoins.  Mining is done for unless difficulty drops which I doubt, it's only gonna get worse. 

Asics is the way to go but that's gonna take a while.  I already ordered and paid for 2 5GH butterfly labs rigs and even those probably won't do much and supposedly they're only good for mining bitcoin.  I'm still keeping and open eye on some way to mine so let me know if and what you find and what you plan to mine cause I'll mine any coin as long as I can find it in good quantity.

Thanks and good luck.

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May 20, 2013, 12:55:01 PM
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I have 64 bit OS and devcoin wallet runs fine on my machine... all the downloads u will need are here http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=how_to_get_setup_earning_devcoins_by_writing

Twobit did a real good job with these so you really should not have any problems

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Oh that's great.


I just checked your link and those are the same links I downloaded from last time, but now the "32" is missing so I can't tell which one to download as none are listed as 64 either. 

Can somebody edit those 3 windows links and add 32 for the 32 bit and 64 for the 64bit so people don't download the wrong ones, unless the 32 bit info is in the link itself and I'm missing it?

Also, can I just download it on this same laptop on which I loaded the last one (which was probably 32 bit which may be causing the problem) or do I have to first delete everything on this laptop with the old client?  Problem is the wallet ID unthinkingbit has for the last round payout is from this wallet so I don't know if I can delete it.  IF not can I just download this new 64 bit version and just ignore the other one?

I'll wait and check back on it later, I'm really glad it's done though.  Thanks a lot.

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May 20, 2013, 01:01:18 PM
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Mods, let me know if it's best to open a new thread and link this portion to that thread so we don't get however many posts with people's account on this thread.  I'm still learning all this stuff and didn't realize some people get upset at non-relevant posts which I think giving away devcoins is.

I have to step out but I'll check back later.  

Some feedback please, would it be best to do just the first 25 new accounts as 100 is to many or is 100 better to reach more people.  There's 100,000 devcoins total.
yes separate threads would be better I think. On the coin, unless you designed all that artistry yourself you may as well stop now. You can't take likely copied work/images and then utilise as open-source. Also, this is of course just my opinion, but I'd rather be blunt and save you some time and effort to expend on other things - but I don't like the design and I doubt many others will. It's too busy. At this point devcoin just needs to get the ball rolling on a simple recognisable logo/coin design.


Yeah, it's all 100% original, I designed the whole thing, so no copyright issues.

I thought it was kind of busy which is why I wanted feedback and also why I removed the 3 circles to clear the entire upper half of the coin.  And devoin may just be interested in part of the coin, that's why they're rewarding the top 3 spots.  they're basically buying all the rights for the top 3 coins and then they're probably gonna mix them up and add their own ideas and create one bad ass coin.

 That's what I would do and that's why I wanted to post them even though they're unfinished.  They haven't gotten even 15 images yet so they really need something different and unique to work with and that's what I tried to do.  Whatever comes of it - It was fun as I've never designed anything before.  Thanks again for the feedback.

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May 20, 2013, 01:06:04 PM
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Mods, let me know if it's best to open a new thread and link this portion to that thread so we don't get however many posts with people's account on this thread.  I'm still learning all this stuff and didn't realize some people get upset at non-relevant posts which I think giving away devcoins is.

I have to step out but I'll check back later. 

Some feedback please, would it be best to do just the first 25 new accounts as 100 is to many or is 100 better to reach more people.  There's 100,000 devcoins total.

I wasn't attacking you in any sort of way, you didn't accuse me of such but I am just clarifying. I get on here after school/work so reading through long posts like that before writing or trading or firing up the miner takes precious time away from those things. Giving away DVC is relevant in my opinions because it is helping to boost the economy. I too plan on starting a faucet when I get paid next month, after I invest in a decent mining rig. It's good to see someone new who is so enthused about the whole thing, just try to keep your posts short, concise, and to the point if you don't mind.

Oh, one more thing which may save you a lot of money.

I just found this out so before you mine anything look at the price of the coin and do the math after you find out how much time will take to mine just 1 block. 

For example, it would cost you more for just the electricity, let alone the cost of the new rig, to mine coins like namecoin, devcoin and IXcoin.  Probably a few others as well but these 3 which interest me the most, so I did the math, It's just not worth it which is why I just bought them and right now vircurex is probably the best exchange, if you're planning to buy digital coins, and if you don't trust their security just buy and transfer to your home computer.

Good luck.

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May 20, 2013, 01:12:13 PM
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...Oh, by the way, which designs did you mean were interesting, mine or my friends?  which ones in particular.  He's trying to narrow it down to just one.  Thanks
Ok yeah unthinkingbit's you man then. The designs - honestly I meant those of your friend. I think your design is interesting and orginal, but to incorporate it into anything digital it needs to be digital. That means every aspect of the design, the layering, the colours. How is anyone going to take the design and achieve that if you can't. Don't assume anyone here is a graphic artist, I think we all have to play on our own strengths as well as collaborate. The concepts you describe; they do mean something, which is great, but now imagine your design in the corner of a screen - a 5mm image visibility. I'm not sure it could represent mass recognition as a logo for devcoin in particular. It's more representative of, say, digital currency generally. I think the logo is about recognition foremost, real originality is not the thing, in fact as you've pointed out here there could be 1000s of cryto-currencies coming. Devcoin stands out for many reasons that others can't easily compete with, the logo isn't and doesn't have to be its wherewithall (but then I'm not a designer or marketer).

Your friend's designs, again yes they're interesting (and I think I mean primarily the top-left and bottom of the three posted). But again in the absence of somebody who wants to take up the idea it requires a digital solution. Today I imagine somebody looking at a design, a logo, and needing to convey immediately and perhaps differentiate between different designs. His designs, while in my opinion fantastically thought through and original, assumes somebody already knows a D and a C are represented and that a D and C means devcoin (not DC comics , or D&G etc). I had to look for a bit, then turn my head and aha, and I know all about devcoin. The bitcoin logo has evolved so without putting something formal togther now, perhaps his concepts could be part of the evolution of devcoin when he or somebody can take the designs and work with them once there's greater take up and likely recognition. The point is I like them, but will they mean anything to others.

Anyhow this all just my opinion though, because you asked, and I'm a newbie here too.

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May 20, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
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Oh that's great.


I just checked your link and those are the same links I downloaded from last time, but now the "32" is missing so I can't tell which one to download as none are listed as 64 either. 

Can somebody edit those 3 windows links and add 32 for the 32 bit and 64 for the 64bit so people don't download the wrong ones, unless the 32 bit info is in the link itself and I'm missing it?

Also, can I just download it on this same laptop on which I loaded the last one (which was probably 32 bit which may be causing the problem) or do I have to first delete everything on this laptop with the old client?  Problem is the wallet ID unthinkingbit has for the last round payout is from this wallet so I don't know if I can delete it.  IF not can I just download this new 64 bit version and just ignore the other one?

I'll wait and check back on it later, I'm really glad it's done though.  Thanks a lot.
Please read through what psybits wrote in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129563.msg2156249
If you've done this and the address you've given unthinkingbit still doesn't work, all I can think is that you've written it out wrong. Go into your wallet - right click on the box where your address is (this will highlight it) - copy - paste (ctrl v) this in a msg rather than manually typing it out.

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May 20, 2013, 02:25:13 PM
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@ Vlad2Vlad: STOP SPAMMING IN THIS THREAD!
Think before you write something, your trolling is extreme!
Cause otherwise you simply end up on the ignore list.

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@ Vlad2Vlad: STOP SPAMMING IN THIS THREAD!
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Cause you otherwise simply end up on the ignore list.

You are classless.

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Please read through what psybits wrote in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129563.msg2156249
If you've done this and the address you've given unthinkingbit still doesn't work, all I can think is that you've written it out wrong. Go into your wallet - right click on the box where your address is (this will highlight it) - copy - paste (ctrl v) this in a msg rather than manually typing it out.

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I tried that.

And tell me this then.

I transferred money from vircurex into my wallet at home and that worked fine.  So why wouldn't the same address same wallet work for devtome?  That makes no sense.

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@ Vlad2Vlad: STOP SPAMMING IN THIS THREAD!
Think before you write something, your trolling is extreme!
Cause you otherwise simply end up on the ignore list.

You are classless.

Please try to hit the edit button when you have anything to add to your post:

Instead of pressing "reply" over and over again.

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May 20, 2013, 02:56:52 PM
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I tried that.

And tell me this then.

I transferred money from vircurex into my wallet at home and that worked fine.  So why wouldn't the same address same wallet work for devtome?  That makes no sense.
The receeiving address you have listed on devtome shows a blance of 23 dvc
http://darkgamex.ch:2751/address/1BroUgeCemQvWeYBekpFyEFGZVqrXnrtQ9

(if you want to reply just edit your last post, and I'll do the same here)

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May 20, 2013, 03:15:13 PM
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So I want to propagate the same generosity which was shown to me by giving away 100,000 devcoins from my vircurex account, which will hopefully work.

I'm not sure how to do this for optimal effect.  While I think 1,000 coins per new wallet would be the best way that would mean I have to send out coins 100 different times and I don't know how long it will  take.  If it's an easy thing to do then that's probably the best way, if not  then I'll do the first 25 NEW accounts.

I'm not gonna verify so let's have a gentleman's agreement that if you already opened an account and at some point got some reward that you won't submit it here for a second one.  And it doesn't necessarily have to be new as opened in the last 5 minutes although I would prefer if it were for people who will open a new account because of this offer since that's the whole point, to get more people actively buying, mining or earning devcoins.  

Let's get some feedback from people who have done this to setup the best and easiest parameters.  And maybe also start a new thread so I don't get put on ignore by everyone.


All feedback is appreciated.




1. Awesome idea.
2. You should make your own thread, or post about it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191136.0;topicseen

I think 100 wallets would be a good new amount Smiley

That's your thread finshaggy, and I agree it's better if it's done on a different thread.  What a nightmare to have to send to so many address.  You don't seem to mind. lol...seriously, can I send you the 100,000 devcoins since this is your original idea as far as I can tell and you can give them out to the first 100 guys.

but guys, go to the board finshaggy just liked to and post your wallet and the first 100 will get 1,000 devcoins each.  that way it's better cause you're likely to recognize names that have come back for thirds and fourths.  lol

give me your wallet and I'll go vircurex and take out 100,000.  man that makes me feel rich and generous but i'm neither.  ha.

Well, I don't want to have to pay that much attention until I get a computer that isn't slower than dial up. But once I get paid for this last round, I'm down.

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May 20, 2013, 03:16:42 PM
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I finished the important part of my devcoin design which goes on top and replaced the current logo.  I don't have photoshop and the friend who helped me last time just couldn't help me out this time so I'm stuck submitting basically pure drawings.  I'm no artist so I had to use tools for just about everything which is why it took me so long.  I was going to add some latin words and some images but I think devcoin management is basically looking for a good idea and any coin which wins will most likely get altered to suit their tastes and needs so then I won't waste 3 more days adding things that are more personal than necessary.

So one would have to imagine this symbol which incorporates the entire devcoin logo: DVC in the image (but it's not spelled out plainly as I tried to make it as new and original as possible and like nothing I've ever seen) and I also managed to get the equality (=) symbol in there without looking like it's just another dollar copy.  For some reason all the currencies of the world seem to put that on so I felt maybe there's a good reason or maybe they're just copying the dollar.

AT any rate, including 2 images (and yes, I cropped them down to size this time, thanks for all the guys who helped me out earlier), one with 3 circles which were in part symbolic and in part to fill in a large empty section of the coin but with them the coin started to look pretty busy so I'm gonna post an image without those 3 circles.

Please feel free to criticize, comment or give feedback - I had the feeling today after a comment was made by one of the mods that the contest is literally in its last days which is why I'm submitting what I have.  it took a lot of work to put together what looks like just a few lines and circles.  Man!








Oh, and I guess it would help to put my original one on here so everyone can see which symbol is being replaced.  The wheel with log sticking out of it....I'm told it's a halo logo which I didn't know.  The new symbol is 100% made from scratch so just imagine this new symbol (above) on top of the microchip/IC wafer backdrop.  I simply don't have the software tools to combine them.





I Hope these help in any way to give devcoin the best and original coin in the entire new crypto currency industry I hope the final winner will be a true work of art for the new digital era.

Best regards,

Vlad

Lookin good, that's pretty awesome.

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May 20, 2013, 03:38:28 PM
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@ Vlad2Vlad: STOP SPAMMING IN THIS THREAD!
Think before you write something, your trolling is extreme!
Cause you otherwise simply end up on the ignore list.

You are classless.

Please try to hit the edit button when you have anything to add to your post:

Instead of pressing "reply" over and over again.

I totally see what you mean.  I didn't think of that.  The only chat board I've ever been on were stock boards and there was never an edit button and everything moved lightening fast so you have to post fast or your question is never answered and your post is buried.  So I'm used to that and here nobody ever posts so then I end up posting excessively which I hate cause it takes up my time and other people hate cause I'm wasting theirs.

But you're right, I am trolling and spamming.  When my posts and questions (many times unanswered) take up half the board that's a spammer and a troll.  And I ain't never been a troll or a spammer so this bitcointalk blog/site ain't for me.

I don't stay where I don't add value and I don't like wasting my time asking relevant questions which nobody answers and I'm not gonna post just to see people complain.  This site has taken up too much of my productive time anyway, I was just hoping I would learn more here than googling everything but it doesn't look like it. 

Thanks to guys like MarkM, unthinkingbit, fuzzybear and a couple others who have been really helpful but everybody else, I don't know, maybe you guys are never on here or you just come to learn but never to bother answering questions.  Like the new guy today who asked about the new coin.  what a perfect time to tell another guy there's a coin contest.  But instead he was told to shut up and stop spamming with irrelevant newbie questions.  This site is for 5 coin tuff guys not for people who wanna learn.

So I'm out.....

AAAHHHHHH, As for the 100,000 devcoins I promised, looks like finshaggyn can't do it and I'm not gonna spam and troll for 100 more posts and who knows how many days so the one guy who put up his dev wallet, you get the full 100,000 coins.  I never said 100 wallets anyway, I said let's discuss it and we'll set the parameters.  So congrats, I'll hit you up later today with those coins, if there's any issues my email is on my profile.

Good luck to everyone, I think you're all gonna accidentally get rich if you're smart enough to hold on to your coins.

And I hope the next newbies who come through here excited like I was looking to learn and more than happy to post and answer questions and tell people how great and big this thing is gonna be.....well, if I was running this thing those are exactly the kinds of people I'd want.

I hate to say it but this is another long post nobody is gonna read so, lol, so somebody post this part for me - Thanks for everything I've learned over the past week or two and I wish only the best for everyone.  And I'm still gonna be a part of devtome cause they're a top A class crue who wanna attract as many excited people as possible. 

La Revedere!

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May 20, 2013, 03:44:21 PM
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Cool concept I may try out the freelance writing.  I just downloaded the wallet my DVC address is:

1HGto3UGVqgTMho9jTaQ3Yxi3DicDuQWNm


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"The amount of 100,100.0 DVC was successfully withdrawn."


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I totally see what you mean.  I didn't think of that.  The only chat board I've ever been on were stock boards and there was never an edit button and everything moved lightening fast so you have to post fast or your question is never answered and your post is buried.  So I'm used to that and here nobody ever posts so then I end up posting excessively which I hate cause it takes up my time and other people hate cause I'm wasting theirs.

Depending on the type of stock board, you are talking about a whole different dynamic.   You may be following the ticker in real time and that changes things.    Lots of people post here, however we are not standing by waiting to reply to posts typically.  We are usually busy working on something, maybe some code, and come to the message board when we need a bit of a break.   You style is also hard to answer to.  You post a lot of statements of facts rather then questions, and if your facts are not correct, it would become a real chore to go all the way back and to the start and try and meaningfully reply, especially when you see a bunch of follow ups already.  So you are making it too hard to reply meaningfully to your posts.

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and spamming.  When my posts and questions (many times unanswered) take up half the board that's a spammer and a troll.  And I ain't never been a troll or a spammer so this bitcointalk blog/site ain't for me.

How long are you giving for replies before you continue on anyway?   Are you actually leaving hooks and questions in for people to reply to?

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I don't stay where I don't add value and I don't like wasting my time asking relevant questions which nobody answers and I'm not gonna post just to see people complain.  This site has taken up too much of my productive time anyway, I was just hoping I would learn more here than googling everything but it doesn't look like it. 

Maybe you would do better in a chat room if you want more immediate interaction.



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And I hope the next newbies who come through here excited like I was looking to learn and more than happy to post and answer questions and tell people how great and big this thing is gonna be.....well, if I was running this thing those are exactly the kinds of people I'd want.

Most, maybe all of us are doing this part time,  I noticed before you talked about the devcoin company, and it's profits, debts  and plans. There is no company.  It is more like a Coalition with most of us working on many other things as well.  Oh, another thing I noticed you did, you were putting too much emphasis on peoples titles.  All they mean is you post a lot or not.  You also kept calling for the mods to help you, there are really no mods active in this thread for the most part.  Think I have seen one.  We are all just fellow users of the board like you are.  You are attributing too much formality and structure to things it seems like.

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I hate to say it but this is another long post nobody is gonna read so, lol, so somebody post this part for me - Thanks for everything I've learned over the past week or two and I wish only the best for everyone.  And I'm still gonna be a part of devtome cause they're a top A class crue who wanna attract as many excited people as possible. 

There you go,  devtome is definitely separate then this forum.  another idea would be to start some of your own threads. I know I just skip to the last page of posts on here when I am taking a break so  for sure  am now missing a lot of posts here these days.  In any case my suggestion is to learn to be a bit more patient in waiting for replies. Many just check in once a day or even less often.

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You could also try IRC, channel #devcoin on Freenode IRC

But even on IRC it is people from all over the world on different sleep schedules so typically it is like someone posts a question and 8 or 12 hours or something later when someone wakes up who actually has an answer to the question you get a reply. (Which by then you're maybe asleep so don't even see the reply until you wake up another 8 or 12 hours later...)

Also IRC doesn't like lots of lines of text, as normally one hopes not to have to csroll through pages of backscroll on waking up, one expects to just see a few concise questions and maybe concise answers to them upon waking up and checking the channel.

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You see it wrong, this site is indeed for learning, but according to me, learning work in the way that u usualy read and learn this way. I guess many of your questions are allready answered in this thread or are findable on devtome.com. I suggest you read back instead of posting new and new questions, its hard to follow and we usualy do other stuff aswell.


When you pose questions, please do it in one or two lines, and be patient. Selfeducation works differnt then beeing in a classroom educated by a teacher, there is no central authority here.

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May 20, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
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Yep, these go in pnSeeds...  

unsigned int pnSeed[] =
{
  0xb73c9ac6,

is what I have for the first node you posted the other day.

I used http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/ipcalc to convert that integer to an IP address...

...It came out as "The IP Number 0xb73c9ac6 converts to the IP Address 183.60.154.198"

So, backward, it seems, assuming said site is doing it correctly.

Unfortunately it does not use hax itself when turning an IP into an integer:

" The IP Address 198.154.60.183 converts to the IP Number 3331996855."

But presumably that is merely cosmetic, the array of IPs-as-integer should work with decimal integers too assuming that is actually what they are showing there.

So, using their page on our four stable node IPs, I have arrived at

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unsigned int pnSeed[] =  
{
        3331996855, 3331996733, 1815951733, 84535656,
};

But... was your version backward deliberately?

Does pnSeed actually need a bytewise-reversed version (different-endian, or something) ?

I think maybe it does want it byte-reversed, as I asked that site to convert the first of the ancient commented out ones from way back when we swiped bitcoin code to make devcoin, and is said it was 29.219.16.50, but watch:

Code:
nslookup 29.219.16.50
Server:         192.168.2.1
Address:        192.168.2.1#53

** server can't find 50.16.219.29.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN

[bitcoin@megabox bitcoin]$ nslookup 50.16.219.29
Server:         192.168.2.1
Address:        192.168.2.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
29.219.16.50.in-addr.arpa       name = ec2-50-16-219-29.compute-1.amazonaws.com.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
219.16.50.in-addr.arpa  nameserver = pdns6.ultradns.co.uk.
219.16.50.in-addr.arpa  nameserver = pdns2.ultradns.net.
219.16.50.in-addr.arpa  nameserver = pdns5.ultradns.info.
219.16.50.in-addr.arpa  nameserver = pdns1.ultradns.net.
219.16.50.in-addr.arpa  nameserver = pdns4.ultradns.org.
219.16.50.in-addr.arpa  nameserver = pdns3.ultradns.org.
pdns1.ultradns.net      internet address = 204.74.108.1
pdns1.ultradns.net      has AAAA address 2001:502:f3ff::1
pdns2.ultradns.net      internet address = 204.74.109.1
pdns2.ultradns.net      has AAAA address 2610:a1:1014::1
pdns3.ultradns.org      internet address = 199.7.68.1
pdns3.ultradns.org      has AAAA address 2610:a1:1015::1
pdns4.ultradns.org      internet address = 199.7.69.1
pdns4.ultradns.org      has AAAA address 2001:502:4612::1
pdns5.ultradns.info     internet address = 204.74.114.1
pdns5.ultradns.info     has AAAA address 2610:a1:1016::1
pdns6.ultradns.co.uk    internet address = 204.74.115.1

So it looks like maybe that spew of addresses is probably a list of bitcoin nodes, and the array does need byte-reversed addresses.

Luckily it is easy to manually reverse the bytes of a ##.##.##.## format Ip address before typing it into that conversion website, so...

Code:
unsigned int pnSeed[] =   
{
//      3331996855, 3331996733, 1815951733, 84535656,
        3074202310, 1027381958, 1966685547, 1760102661,
};

(I left the non-reversed integers in there but commented out. Just in case.)

-MarkM-


http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=node.js_ip_converter This one may  help.

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@jasinlee -> just an idea for devtome.com https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:code

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