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May 18, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
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I'm pretty sure people judge how much they enjoyed reading something by how much relevance it had to their perspective of what life is. So any writing system would turn into an agreement system. Having stars or a like button, either way people are using the same thoughts to make the decision.

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Christian music isn't good, they just listen to it because it is their alternative.

I agree with you. What do you think it'd be a good system to promote quality in devtome, and also reward new users?
Maybe it will be nice to apply the rating systems only in the 'Objective' sections.

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May 18, 2013, 04:45:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure people judge how much they enjoyed reading something by how much relevance it had to their perspective of what life is. So any writing system would turn into an agreement system. Having stars or a like button, either way people are using the same thoughts to make the decision.

Ex:
Christian music isn't good, they just listen to it because it is their alternative.

I agree with you. What do you think it'd be a good system to promote quality in devtome, and also reward new users?
Maybe it will be nice to apply the rating systems only in the 'Objective' sections.

I think traffic payment is good. And maybe like a button to anonymously submit pages to a "contest" thing, an have a featured article every week or month. So that there is incentive to write articles that people will like enough to submit.

Then like have a link to the featured article in the link cluster on the left of every page.

Maybe runner up articles also.

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May 18, 2013, 04:46:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure people judge how much they enjoyed reading something by how much relevance it had to their perspective of what life is. So any writing system would turn into an agreement system. Having stars or a like button, either way people are using the same thoughts to make the decision.

Ex:
Christian music isn't good, they just listen to it because it is their alternative.

I agree with you. What do you think it'd be a good system to promote quality in devtome, and also reward new users?
Maybe it will be nice to apply the rating systems only in the 'Objective' sections.

I think traffic payment is good. And maybe like a button to anonymously submit pages to a "contest" thing, an have a featured article every week or month. So that there is incentive to write articles that people will like enough to submit.

Then like have a link to the featured article in the link cluster on the left of every page.

Yeah that would be awesome!

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May 18, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
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vlad: there are already exchanges for crypto companies and ideas. These are two I know of, there may be more.
https://cryptostocks.com/
https://btct.co/
For example, twobits and fuzzybear are involved in asicminer DVC passthrough, which passes on a dividend in devcoin from shared asic mining of bitcoin (and others via mergemining). Disclosure: I don't have any shares in it and no view on whether it's good value or not.

marticps: I think the results of such a rating system would also be skewed to most recent articles, rather than better ones

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You have more than 2 months to earn. I just discovered Devtome this last round as well, but I had like 2 weeks.
It does take a long time to write, but you can also drive traffic to your stuff to earn. And the coins WILL be going up in value. Each share was like $25-75 this round, and that is already more than anyone should be getting paid to write 1,000 words.

Writing may seem hard, but if you go to jail or some other lock down facility to a long time, it makes writing easier and it makes you use your words to say more important things. So... Maybe, try to find your jail. What makes you feel like you have no voice. Go there, and inspiration should come.

Buying coins isn't a bad idea, but if you have mining equipment that would probably be the best way to go. And just writing an trading. If you earn say 5 million coins and sell 3 million regular price, then buy 1 million at top dollar, you stimulate the DVC economy, thus raising the value of the 2,000,000 coins you already have left over.

All your projections about people selling at 300-400% will probably be how it does play out. And I bet it is the easiest time ever to become a millionaire, but problem is, do you cash out or does that get taxed

I am not exactly sure what a stock dividend is. But yes, it should work to make money for anyone 'invested" in it (anyone with coins). And you will always have to sell your coins to make oney. The only risk is that DVC may not reach the developmental goals of the bounties, and will lose value. But as long as we work to get more and more attention to devcoin and its projects, everything should be fine.
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I think you just really inspired me ( I think we think alike), I'm gonna try to at least start a new paper, which is often the hardest part.  It's nearly 12 noon and I haven't slept a wink, I was up all night writing cause I was too busy on this thread until 3am.  It's easy to get caught up on here and lose a few hours.  It's not a loss but when You only have nights to write cause your kids distract you too much and other things as well then those 3 hours posting here were a loss of productivity to me but at the same time it was nice to learn new stuff as this is pretty much the only place to get good info on this new market. 

I hear you about the prison Idea.....I've actually used that exact thing when I actually had a job (and at pretty much every job) when I was working more hours than anyone, often 70 and 80 hour weeks and after I got married and had little kids at home I missed so much it was so hard, so I remember thinking, hey if I were in prison now I'd never see my wife and kids, and I'd have to work all day long for like 12 cents per hour and all of a sudden man the situation looks like such a sweet deal. 

So yeah, I'm like you in that regard, I find ways to motivate me to make myself do difficult and extreme things where 99% of the population at that point would just drop out and give up and have a great reason to do it.  I think I recognize your name, you're the guy who pulled down 64K words last round.....and in just 2 weeks.  Well I did 22K in 3 days so I guess you and I are gonna be the best of friends (since we're on the same team). 

What motivates me the most is the fact that even though I went back to school and got a second degree I still can't find a job and that infuriates me and at the same time scares me and all of a sudden I find this new thing that I truly believe is the next great thing but I got there a few months too late and as hard as I tried I couldn't mine any coins and I tried to buy some but most had gone up in price and some by a lot so it felt risky to buy something with no intrinsic value which had already gone up so much so I was left hopeless but I kept trying, I was spending entire nights reading up on every coin I could find and then, about 10 days ago, I ran into devtome and when I saw:  "write for coins" I just couldn't believe it. 

to me it was that unreal, like something too good to be true, and given the point in the game we're in where you basically have to buy the coins now or expensive equipment which barely yields any coins, to find a way to earn coins and not just a few but a lot of them, well, I knew right away it could not last.  you're right, we'll be able to earn coins for more than 2 months, but my feelihngs are often right when I feel this strongly about something and so I think I'm also right and in 30-60 days the earning share will have way less coins, the value may go up but to me it's the coins, the number of coins that matters because we're in the accumulation part of the game and so the dollar value means nothing to me so in a couple months if i'm right we may be getting literally just one-tenth the coins per share we're getting now.  And to me, to all of a sudden in just 2 months earn 10 times fewer actual coins for the same work, well that's an opportunity gone which will never come back, regardless if the value of that smaller share is perhaps even larger than today's huge coin share. 

So the biggest motivator for me and which keeps me going every night is the true belief this truly is a once in a lifetime opportunity and it won't last, not like this, much longer and so then I'd be a fool to not stay up entire nights writing all I can so if my fear proves correct then I won't have regrets, I'll know in my heart I did all I could and that's peace of mind you can't buy.

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May 18, 2013, 07:13:10 PM
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I think you just really inspired me ( I think we think alike), I'm gonna try to at least start a new paper, which is often the hardest part.  It's nearly 12 noon and I haven't slept a wink, I was up all night writing cause I was too busy on this thread until 3am.  It's easy to get caught up on here and lose a few hours.  It's not a loss but when You only have nights to write cause your kids distract you too much and other things as well then those 3 hours posting here were a loss of productivity to me but at the same time it was nice to learn new stuff as this is pretty much the only place to get good info on this new market.  

I hear you about the prison Idea.....I've actually used that exact thing when I actually had a job (and at pretty much every job) when I was working more hours than anyone, often 70 and 80 hour weeks and after I got married and had little kids at home I missed so much it was so hard, so I remember thinking, hey if I were in prison now I'd never see my wife and kids, and I'd have to work all day long for like 12 cents per hour and all of a sudden man the situation looks like such a sweet deal.  

So yeah, I'm like you in that regard, I find ways to motivate me to make myself do difficult and extreme things where 99% of the population at that point would just drop out and give up and have a great reason to do it.  I think I recognize your name, you're the guy who pulled down 64K words last round.....and in just 2 weeks.  Well I did 22K in 3 days so I guess you and I are gonna be the best of friends (since we're on the same team).  

What motivates me the most is the fact that even though I went back to school and got a second degree I still can't find a job and that infuriates me and at the same time scares me and all of a sudden I find this new thing that I truly believe is the next great thing but I got there a few months too late and as hard as I tried I couldn't mine any coins and I tried to buy some but most had gone up in price and some by a lot so it felt risky to buy something with no intrinsic value which had already gone up so much so I was left hopeless but I kept trying, I was spending entire nights reading up on every coin I could find and then, about 10 days ago, I ran into devtome and when I saw:  "write for coins" I just couldn't believe it.  

to me it was that unreal, like something too good to be true, and given the point in the game we're in where you basically have to buy the coins now or expensive equipment which barely yields any coins, to find a way to earn coins and not just a few but a lot of them, well, I knew right away it could not last.  you're right, we'll be able to earn coins for more than 2 months, but my feelihngs are often right when I feel this strongly about something and so I think I'm also right and in 30-60 days the earning share will have way less coins, the value may go up but to me it's the coins, the number of coins that matters because we're in the accumulation part of the game and so the dollar value means nothing to me so in a couple months if i'm right we may be getting literally just one-tenth the coins per share we're getting now.  And to me, to all of a sudden in just 2 months earn 10 times fewer actual coins for the same work, well that's an opportunity gone which will never come back, regardless if the value of that smaller share is perhaps even larger than today's huge coin share.  

So the biggest motivator for me and which keeps me going every night is the true belief this truly is a once in a lifetime opportunity and it won't last, not like this, much longer and so then I'd be a fool to not stay up entire nights writing all I can so if my fear proves correct then I won't have regrets, I'll know in my heart I did all I could and that's peace of mind you can't buy.

Sorry,  have a shitty computer and something weird just happened. I'm replying to this now though.

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May 18, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
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What did you mean by:  "you can also drive traffic to your stuff (your writings) so you can earn that way."


I've seen this mentioned on devtome but I don't get it.  How do you drive traffic to the papers you write, I thought traffic was automated via search engines and such.

So then

a) do you mean there's a way, a quantifiable way to drive additional traffic to your papers in order to get more views?

and

b) How is this traffic tracked and how and what do you earn?


For example, I wrote 3 papers in the 3 days I had last round and according to the payout matrix I''m going to get coins as promised by devtome for the words I wrote but I didn't see anything for the additional traffic or additional earnings you're referring to.

So can you or anybody else clarify?  How do you get additional traffic.  I mean I can post the links on facebook and such but how does devcoin know for example that 20 pageviews were from links I laid out or people I told to go see my papers and 10 of the total 30 pageviews were there just from the natural occurance of web traffic.

So how does devtome know and how is this traffic quantified.  I wanted to try and publish my first article on seeking alpha and I wrote it especially slanted, spun and directed toward stocks, the stock market and speculation investing so it would be a natural for the stuff they publish but I haven't yet submitted it.  

And I'm curious, if that article gets publiishedon seeking alpha and it gets pushed out to roughly 25,000 active emails which is pretty standard for such articles then what would I be looking at as far as the additional earnings you're talking about.  With words it's simple, you write 1,000 quality words and you get 1 share but with this traffic stuff and marketing thing it's so confusing that I just haven't even tried it but thinking about it, in theory the marketing part is what really works for any company especially with an unkown company like this in an unknown nascent industry and market in its infancy awareness will jump logarithmically the first couple of years and that part is just now started so that's the good news.  the bad news of course is that mining, which was the easiest near risk free way to get coins is all but impossible to do.

I still look for new better ways to mine but I've pretty much given up, as I was wasting more money on electricity than the coins I was getting.  maybe if I ever get butterfly labs' rig, which I already paid for, maybe then it will be worth mining but I'm not banking on it.  Thanks for all the info and thanks for the inspiration.  I truly feel we, the little guy, have done what happens only once per generation, but we temporarily beat the big guy the big banks with all the insider info and all the money to the punch, we got into these investments before they ever saw them on their radar but make no mistake, once this market is validated which will take 6-12 more months and 1 to 2 more bicoin type explosions the banks will move in as they have already started by investing big money in the tiny exchange coinbase and who knows what else is going on behind the screen.  

It wouldn't surprise me to see news tomorrow about some wallstreet investor or hedge fund paying big money to outright just buy a seemingly dead coin like IXcoin in order to save time and buy instant namebrand recognition, and it's something like that which would really validate this market and really push all coins higher.  We're literally that close, just one catalyst, one big unexpected headline from going from ZERO to HERO and hopefully this catalyst will come sooner than even a bull optimist like me expects but first, first just give me 1, maybe 2 months to earn and buy more coins cause right now I have very little as I only found out about all of this roughly 30 days ago.

good luck to you, good luck to everyone!

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May 18, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
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I think you just really inspired me ( I think we think alike), I'm gonna try to at least start a new paper, which is often the hardest part.  It's nearly 12 noon and I haven't slept a wink, I was up all night writing cause I was too busy on this thread until 3am.  It's easy to get caught up on here and lose a few hours.  It's not a loss but when You only have nights to write cause your kids distract you too much and other things as well then those 3 hours posting here were a loss of productivity to me but at the same time it was nice to learn new stuff as this is pretty much the only place to get good info on this new market. 

I hear you about the prison Idea.....I've actually used that exact thing when I actually had a job (and at pretty much every job) when I was working more hours than anyone, often 70 and 80 hour weeks and after I got married and had little kids at home I missed so much it was so hard, so I remember thinking, hey if I were in prison now I'd never see my wife and kids, and I'd have to work all day long for like 12 cents per hour and all of a sudden man the situation looks like such a sweet deal. 

So yeah, I'm like you in that regard, I find ways to motivate me to make myself do difficult and extreme things where 99% of the population at that point would just drop out and give up and have a great reason to do it.  I think I recognize your name, you're the guy who pulled down 64K words last round.....and in just 2 weeks.  Well I did 22K in 3 days so I guess you and I are gonna be the best of friends (since we're on the same team). 

What motivates me the most is the fact that even though I went back to school and got a second degree I still can't find a job and that infuriates me and at the same time scares me and all of a sudden I find this new thing that I truly believe is the next great thing but I got there a few months too late and as hard as I tried I couldn't mine any coins and I tried to buy some but most had gone up in price and some by a lot so it felt risky to buy something with no intrinsic value which had already gone up so much so I was left hopeless but I kept trying, I was spending entire nights reading up on every coin I could find and then, about 10 days ago, I ran into devtome and when I saw:  "write for coins" I just couldn't believe it. 

to me it was that unreal, like something too good to be true, and given the point in the game we're in where you basically have to buy the coins now or expensive equipment which barely yields any coins, to find a way to earn coins and not just a few but a lot of them, well, I knew right away it could not last.  you're right, we'll be able to earn coins for more than 2 months, but my feelihngs are often right when I feel this strongly about something and so I think I'm also right and in 30-60 days the earning share will have way less coins, the value may go up but to me it's the coins, the number of coins that matters because we're in the accumulation part of the game and so the dollar value means nothing to me so in a couple months if i'm right we may be getting literally just one-tenth the coins per share we're getting now.  And to me, to all of a sudden in just 2 months earn 10 times fewer actual coins for the same work, well that's an opportunity gone which will never come back, regardless if the value of that smaller share is perhaps even larger than today's huge coin share. 

So the biggest motivator for me and which keeps me going every night is the true belief this truly is a once in a lifetime opportunity and it won't last, not like this, much longer and so then I'd be a fool to not stay up entire nights writing all I can so if my fear proves correct then I won't have regrets, I'll know in my heart I did all I could and that's peace of mind you can't buy.

I can see that, you just gotta think back to the stuff you had passion for before your kids and jobs. You could even use your kids as motivation, what do you want the world to be like for them? Things like that are good for inspiration too.

I can't find a job either, but I don't have any degrees. Devtome is a life saver. I was in the same situation, I've been trying to find a way to earn money for 2 years. I've been using adsense, but I doesn't hardly pay shit. Then I got told "All this writing you're doing, you know you could get paid for writing on Devtome"

Yeah, I don't like to give up (kinda been the same exact person since I was 14 years old, just more experienced) And yeah I wrote the 64k words.

True, the shares will never be as big as they were, and we won't be able to stock pile hundreds of millions of coins. But we still came in at a good time.

And yeah, now is a good time to spend lots of time writing. Eventually it'll just be like Wikipedia, and everyone will feel like "All there is left to o is edit pages, there are no topics left".

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What did you mean by:  "you can also drive traffic to your stuff (your writings) so you can earn that way."


I've seen this mentioned on devtome but I don't get it.  How do you drive traffic to the papers you write, I thought traffic was automated via search engines and such.

So then

a) do you mean there's a way, a quantifiable way to drive additional traffic to your papers in order to get more views?

and

b) How is this traffic tracked and how and what do you earn?


A) Yes, unless by quantifiable you mean "you can watch the traffic numbers". Yes it is an amount that makes a difference though.

B) I'm not sure how it's tracked, but you earn Devcoins. Unthinkingbit probably has more info.

I'm reading the rest of your post now.

And the way you generally drive traffic to devtome is using URLs, I can help with more specific methods though.

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Sorry,  have a shitty computer and something weird just happened. I'm replying to this not though.
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Oh man, I just noticed you have links at the bottom of your posts sending people to your papers.  what a great idea. I cant' believe you're the only one doing this....well, now I'm doing it too.  Well, I'm not sure my jr rank will allow me, when I tried to upload a pic to my profile of the new coin I'm working on but it wouldn't let me so I'll try just doing the links alone and see if that works.

I wonder how devtome knows the normal traffic from the traffic you drive there.

also, you said you mine coins but you have a crappy computer?  I bought a supped up dual GPU $1700 computer ( which I ended up taking back like 2 or 3 days later and losing $300) and it was worthless for mining, I was wasting more electricity than the coins I was mining were worth.  so how are you mining and what coins are you mining?

One more thing, Have you done a coin yet for the new devcoin coin contest?  If so, are you any good at photoshop?  I have a great image in my mind about a new devcoin and it's interesting that I started designing it before I even knew there was a contest for it, days before I knew anything about a contest but I'm a horrible artist mechanically ( I can visualize things but can't get them out of my head) and I can't draw so it takes me forever just draw basic lines and designs which I can see so clearly in my mind and now the photoshop part is coming and that's gonna take days cause I don't know how to use it.  

Ok, I gotta stop posting and get started on a new paper before I go to bed, but I'll check back on any answers later on.

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It wouldn't surprise me to see news tomorrow about some wallstreet investor or hedge fund paying big money to outright just buy a seemingly dead coin like IXcoin in order to save time and buy instant namebrand recognition, and it's something like that which would really validate this market and really push all coins higher.  We're literally that close, just one catalyst, one big unexpected headline from going from ZERO to HERO and hopefully this catalyst will come sooner than even a bull optimist like me expects but first, first just give me 1, maybe 2 months to earn and buy more coins cause right now I have very little as I only found out about all of this roughly 30 days ago.

good luck to you, good luck to everyone!

regards,

Vlad

That would be awesome. Hopefully Devcoin can just do that itself with the Bounty projects.

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What did you mean by:  "you can also drive traffic to your stuff (your writings) so you can earn that way."


I've seen this mentioned on devtome but I don't get it.  How do you drive traffic to the papers you write, I thought traffic was automated via search engines and such.

So then

a) do you mean there's a way, a quantifiable way to drive additional traffic to your papers in order to get more views?

and

b) How is this traffic tracked and how and what do you earn?


A) Yes, unless by quantifiable you mean "you can watch the traffic numbers". Yes it is an amount that makes a difference though.

B) I'm not sure how it's tracked, but you earn Devcoins. Unthinkingbit probably has more info.

I'm reading the rest of your post now.

And the way you generally drive traffic to devtome is using URLs, I can help with more specific methods though.

Like what specific methods?  I can only think of placing links at the bottom of my screen here (if jr level is high enough), maybe put something on my youtube channel but nobody looks at my channel and maybe facebook but I don't have tons of friends as I rarely log on.  So I don't have a lot of ways to drive traffic that I can think of.  Any new ideas would be appreciated, or is it better to wait another month before letting the world know about this oasis in the dessert with limited watter that will simply not be enough for everyone?  lol....just one good month is all i'm asking, and I'll do my best to get more money to buy the rest of the devcoins to reach the goal I have in my mind which is very ambitious by most people's standards but not really a big deal on a real total dollar value level.

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Oh man, I just noticed you have links at the bottom of your posts sending people to your papers.  what a great idea. I cant' believe you're the only one doing this....well, now I'm doing it too.  Well, I'm not sure my jr rank will allow me, when I tried to upload a pic to my profile of the new coin I'm working on but it wouldn't let me so I'll try just doing the links alone and see if that works.

I wonder how devtome knows the normal traffic from the traffic you drive there.

also, you said you mine coins but you have a crappy computer?  I bought a supped up dual GPU $1700 computer ( which I ended up taking back like 2 or 3 days later and losing $300) and it was worthless for mining, I was wasting more electricity than the coins I was mining were worth.  so how are you mining and what coins are you mining?

One more thing, Have you done a coin yet for the new devcoin coin contest?  If so, are you any good at photoshop?  I have a great image in my mind about a new devcoin and it's interesting that I started designing it before I even knew there was a contest for it, days before I knew anything about a contest but I'm a horrible artist mechanically ( I can visualize things but can't get them out of my head) and I can't draw so it takes me forever just draw basic lines and designs which I can see so clearly in my mind and now the photoshop part is coming and that's gonna take days cause I don't know how to use it.  

Ok, I gotta stop posting and get started on a new paper before I go to bed, but I'll check back on any answers later on.

I don't think it matter if you drive the traffic, I think you just get paid for traffic.

Nope, I've never mined any kind of coin. And you should have tried mining a different coin than bitcoin, that's probably why you were losing electricity. I don't even plan on mining btc until I get a FPGA.

Devcoin coin contest? What do you mean? And no I've never had photoshop, an my computer doesn't have paint. I have to use an online note pad to save stuff.

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Like what specific methods?  I can only think of placing links at the bottom of my screen here (if jr level is high enough), maybe put something on my youtube channel but nobody looks at my channel and maybe facebook but I don't have tons of friends as I rarely log on.  So I don't have a lot of ways to drive traffic that I can think of.  Any new ideas would be appreciated, or is it better to wait another month before letting the world know about this oasis in the dessert with limited watter that will simply not be enough for everyone?  lol....just one good month is all i'm asking, and I'll do my best to get more money to buy the rest of the devcoins to reach the goal I have in my mind which is very ambitious by most people's standards but not really a big deal on a real total dollar value level.

This is one of the best ways
http://socialmediaexplode.com/?r=131994

Then there is facebook, twitter, youtube. Join groups on Facebook that are related to topic you write about.

Then share your articles other places so maybe people search phrases from it and find your devtome version.


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May 18, 2013, 07:41:51 PM
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how many dev coins are out there in total?

Hey jake, I can't seem to get a straight answer from anyone.  I see you've jumped from the 2 coin JR level to the next level up, the 3 coin guy.  You have 133 posts so I'm close to that, do you remember at how many hours logged and how many posts you were bumped up to level 3?

Thanks....and I'm pretty sure there's roughly 5 billion devcoins outstanding but that number can be reduced very quickly at the currently price and especially if the current new business plan works and devcoin starts to earn money from all its efforts.  

Then there's always the possibility of a reverse split although in stocks those are never a good sign and rarely have the desired effect but this is the biggest reason I'm trying so hard to accumulate as many devcoins as I can - to be prepared for even a reverse 1 for 1,000 reverse split which would basically chop off 3 zeros off the total coins outstanding so if you now have 1,000,000 coins then you'd have 1,000 coins.  that's a huge reverse split but nothing in real terms would change as the price of the coin would also increase at the same time by 1,000 fold.  the reason to do it is so that people may then take you more serisouly and invest and also when they hear you only have 50 million coins, well, that's not bad compared to 5 billion.

But don't let the big number scare you, there's real potential here and there's various market conditions which will help in getting the price up if or when demand spikes.  good luck.

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I don't think it matter if you drive the traffic, I think you just get paid for traffic.

Nope, I've never mined any kind of coin. And you should have tried mining a different coin than bitcoin, that's probably why you were losing electricity. I don't even plan on mining btc until I get a FPGA.

Devcoin coin contest? What do you mean? And no I've never had photoshop, an my computer doesn't have paint. I have to use an online note pad to save stuff.

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I don't think you get paid for traffic at this point unless you make a marketing effort to drive traffic.  At least I haven't seen anything where I was getting anything from traffic which would be great as it would force people to write better and better papers.  But I just got here and I have yet to see a dime in actual coins so I could be wrong about this.  I just have a feeling there is a plan to pay people a share of the traffic their papers generate but right now the shares you get for "traffic" has to do with the marketing portion of earnings just like you get shares for writing I just don't know how they distinguish between the normal traffic you'd generate and additional.  They probably use a baseline across the board and if your papers get some significant number above that then maybe that's how they know you've been out there advertising your stuff.  I don't know, just a guess.

Yeah, there' s contest and once they get 15 entries it's closed.  you get like 2/5 of a share just to turn something in which I think is too generous as the turning in part is like breathing, it has to happen to be considered.  then you get like 4 shares for 1st place, 2 for seond and I think 1 for 3rd.

I don't even care about the 4 shares cause I've alrady spent more time on this coin to have earned 5 times that by writing but I had an image of a coin in my head since before I even heard about the contest and I actually started putting it on paper before I heard about the contest so I have this desire to get my version out there and he curiosity or ambition to try and win.  That's why I'm wasting time on this thing, it's actually making me angry at this point cause it's such a slow moving project for someone like me compared to anything else I can naturally do pretty well.

I've seen some decent designs but not a single one that got me saying, WOW or yeah, I can see the meaning in that.  The coin in my noggin has meaning, lots of meaning and detail, it's not just a new reshaped dollar sign so you can say you've got a new coin.  I don't want to insult the work of others on here cause most if not all are more artistic than me but I simply didn't see any originality or imagination in any of the coins I've seen so far.  And bitcoin, that coin is meaningless - besides the 101011010 which is just machine code it has zero meaning so that coin isn't gonna last long and I can't believe with their money they didn't have the decency to just put on a new and real and meaningful face before that simply dollar copy cat coin gets burned in everyone's mind and then you're stuck with it. 

And I don't mean make it complex, no, simple and minimalistic is good but I don't know, it should stand for something, it should tell a story and it should be very obvious to people when they first see what it means or stands for, at least  rough idea and my coin, I really think my coin does exactly that to a large degree and that's the point.  soon there' s gonna be dozens maybe hundreds of coins and some will spend the due diligence on a new face, afterall marketing is about packaging, many people will pick to buy a coin when it gets confusing given there's no real underlying business (well, devcoin is trying) so then the look will play a HUGE part in why people will choose your coin (especially if I'm right and it's gonna be a hectic frenzy and people won't have time to research each coin) and it should as it says at lot about the people running that particular coin, it says a lot about their standards, their imagination, their expectations and their values. 

People instinctively know these things when they pick one product over another and that's why packaging plays such a huge role in any product's life cycle.  but it doesn't seem like any of these coin owners went to business school - well, I can't say that about devcoin, cause I did find at least 5 different pics of different devcoins when I first googled their name while no other coin had more than 1 image and all of them looked like bitcoin just a different letter.  talk about no imagination - it's not that hard to just do it yourself if you don't have the money if for no other reason just to be different, to stand out to have some pride in a unique identity. 


But as for me , well, Me and this coin are like a "special person" at a regular Olympics 100 yard dash running against the Bolt guy and as you can imagine it's painful and ugly to just watch let alone experience it.

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I don't think you get paid for traffic at this point unless you make a marketing effort to drive traffic.  At least I haven't seen anything where I was getting anything from traffic which would be great as it would force people to write better and better papers.  But I just got here and I have yet to see a dime in actual coins so I could be wrong about this.  I just have a feeling there is a plan to pay people a share of the traffic their papers generate but right now the shares you get for "traffic" has to do with the marketing portion of earnings just like you get shares for writing I just don't know how they distinguish between the normal traffic you'd generate and additional.  They probably use a baseline across the board and if your papers get some significant number above that then maybe that's how they know you've been out there advertising your stuff.  I don't know, just a guess.

Yeah, there' s contest and once they get 15 entries it's closed.  you get like 2/5 of a share just to turn something in which I think is too generous as the turning in part is like breathing, it has to happen to be considered.  then you get like 4 shares for 1st place, 2 for seond and I think 1 for 3rd.

I don't even care about the 4 shares cause I've alrady spent more time on this coin to have earned 5 times that by writing but I had an image of a coin in my head since before I even heard about the contest and I actually started putting it on paper before I heard about the contest so I have this desire to get my version out there and he curiosity or ambition to try and win.  That's why I'm wasting time on this thing, it's actually making me angry at this point cause it's such a slow moving project for someone like me compared to anything else I can naturally do pretty well.

I've seen some decent designs but not a single one that got me saying, WOW or yeah, I can see the meaning in that.  The coin in my noggin has meaning, lots of meaning and detail, it's not just a new reshaped dollar sign so you can say you've got a new coin.  I don't want to insult the work of others on here cause most if not all are more artistic than me but I simply didn't see any originality or imagination in any of the coins I've seen so far.  And bitcoin, that coin is meaningless - besides the 101011010 which is just machine code it has zero meaning so that coin isn't gonna last long and I can't believe with their money they didn't have the decency to just put on a new and real and meaningful face before that simply dollar copy cat coin gets burned in everyone's mind and then you're stuck with it. 

And I don't mean make it complex, no, simple and minimalistic is good but I don't know, it should stand for something, it should tell a story and it should be very obvious to people when they first see what it means or stands for, at least  rough idea and my coin, I really think my coin does exactly that to a large degree and that's the point.  soon there' s gonna be dozens maybe hundreds of coins and some will spend the due diligence on a new face, afterall marketing is about packaging, many people will pick to buy a coin when it gets confusing given there's no real underlying business (well, devcoin is trying) so then the look will play a HUGE part in why people will choose your coin (especially if I'm right and it's gonna be a hectic frenzy and people won't have time to research each coin) and it should as it says at lot about the people running that particular coin, it says a lot about their standards, their imagination, their expectations and their values. 

People instinctively know these things when they pick one product over another and that's why packaging plays such a huge role in any product's life cycle.  but it doesn't seem like any of these coin owners went to business school - well, I can't say that about devcoin, cause I did find at least 5 different pics of different devcoins when I first googled their name while no other coin had more than 1 image and all of them looked like bitcoin just a different letter.  talk about no imagination - it's not that hard to just do it yourself if you don't have the money if for no other reason just to be different, to stand out to have some pride in a unique identity. 


But as for me , well, Me and this coin are like a "special person" at a regular Olympics 100 yard dash running against the Bolt guy and as you can imagine it's painful and ugly to just watch let alone experience it.

That sounds cool, I want to see your coin when you get it done. Wish I had a better computer or I would try too.

And no one makes money from traffic yet because there are no ads, but the more traffic your page has, the more t will continue to get. An when they start using ads you'll have a good head start.

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May 18, 2013, 08:42:00 PM
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Now that the portal is up we are working on the devcoin ad network.

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B) I'm not sure how it's tracked, but you earn Devcoins. Unthinkingbit probably has more info.

I do not have page view information for articles, so now it's just a word count. Once I have page view information I'll update devtome.py to pay writers partly according to how many views/word their work received in the past.

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B) I'm not sure how it's tracked, but you earn Devcoins. Unthinkingbit probably has more info.

I do not have page view information for articles, so now it's just a word count. Once I have page view information I'll update devtome.py to pay writers partly according to how many views/word their work received in the past.

Good info. Smiley

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