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December 19, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
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Hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntx0aZyu5Lc

Ukrainian parliament is so civilized. Cheesy

Yes, a silly pushing match is more civilized than using tanks against your parliament.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Tanks_before_Russian_White_house.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis


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December 19, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
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Do you remember the 1993 Russian crisis? The American puppet Boris Yeltsin and his oligarch friends massacred thousands of Russian patriots, with the covert help from Bill Clinton, and then rigged the elections to stay in power. It was Bill Clinton and his lesbian wife who ordered the puppet to use tanks against the unarmed protesters.
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December 19, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
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Do you remember the 1993 Russian crisis? The American puppet Boris Yeltsin and his oligarch friends massacred thousands of Russian patriots, with the covert help from Bill Clinton, and then rigged the elections to stay in power. It was Bill Clinton and his lesbian wife who ordered the puppet to use tanks against the unarmed protesters.

To wit:

http://stanislavs.org/the-wild-90s-in-russia-as-reflected-in-peoples-memory/

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More on the Yeltsin’s coup d’etat of 1993

It happened between the 21st of September and the 5th of October 1993. Back then, the Western MSM praised this event as the ultimate defence of the young Russian democracy, while in reality, it was the exact opposite.

At that time Russian Parliament, seeing where Yeltsin was steering the country, was preparing to pass impeachment of the President. It is a completely democratic process, designed to balance the presidential power and to trigger a preliminary election. Yeltsin’s reaction was all but democratic.

He passed directive #1400, disbanding the Parliament. When the Parliament refused to comply, he (with the backing of the “well-wishers” from across the pond) ordered army into the streets of Moscow. The Parliament building and the TV tower Ostankino were surrounded. People went out to the streets to defend the Parliament. Then there came the terrible order to open fire. People were shot down by concentrated machine gun fire from armoured vehicles, the Parliament was shelled from tanks.

Here is a footage of the shelling of the Parliament:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbGJkoc3JLI

The exact number of victims of the 1993 massacre is unknown – most documents from that time were destroyed – but is officially estimated to be approximately 200. According to the analysis in the following article (in Russian), the numbers may have been a magnitude higher.

http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2012/10/04/istoriya-rossiiskoi-federatsii/693919-4-oktyabrya-1993-goda-vlast-ustroila-boiny

The massacre also marked the descent of Russia into a period of near-destruction, a period of lawlessness and dismemberment of the industry and defence. A period, known in Russia as “The Wild 90s”.

Russia became totally incapacitated, which, in turn allowed USNATO in 1999 to start an unpunished invasion of Yugoslavia, not fearing any opposition. And even then, some politicians in Russia tried to show protest. When USA started the bombings, Russian Foreign Minister Prjamakov was en route to USA on a diplomatic mission. Upon hearing of the news, he ordered that the plane be turned back right over the Atlantic Ocean in protest.

A link to the excerpt from the book “The Forgotten Victims of 1993”:

http://oct1993.narod.ru/doc/zabyitie_zhertvi.htm

It contains many witness descriptions of the executions of the defenders (even those, who were unarmed, already wounded or surrendered), and later falsification of the numbers of the murdered people.

From the site above, there is an interesting document by parliamentary Andronov, who from the besieged Parliament, on the day before the massacre conducted negotiation with representatives of the AMERICAN embassy, trying to prevent the bloodshed. Americans anyway gave the order to open fire, he says, adding that the bloodshed in Moscow in 1993 was directly authorised by Clinton.
http://oct1993.narod.ru/doc/14.doc

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The site above has an extensive library of documents, memoirs and testimonials, pertaining to the 1993 coup d'etat and massacre here:
http://oct1993.narod.ru/bibl.htm
It also contains 7 recordings of radio intercepts of the power structure communications.

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December 20, 2015, 07:57:54 AM
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^^^^ The mainstream historians and the media have conveniently chose to hide the war crimes of Billary Clinton. They have committed crimes against humanity in Russia, Serbia, Bosnia, Kosovo and countless other countries and regions. And it should be worrying that Hillary is almost certain to be elected as the POTUS in 2016.
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December 20, 2015, 10:01:15 AM
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Ukraine will have huge problems soon, because they will not have allies anymore
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December 20, 2015, 02:15:32 PM
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Only one day after Putin, answering a Georgian journalist, said that Russia can introduce a visum-free regime with Georgia within a matter of weeks, EU counters that EU can make travel to Georgia visum-free by mid-2016. I wonder what kind of strings will be attached. Georgia already has a visum-free travel for Russian citizens, and there are many Georgians living in Russia. Will Georgia, like Ukraine, be required to severe all ties with Russia to its own detriment?

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-georgia-eu-benchmarks-visa-free-travel/27435738.html

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BRUSSELS -- European Commission head Jean-Claude Juncker said on December 18 that the European Union should offer visa-free short-stay travel within the Schengen zone for citizens of Ukraine, Georgia, and Kosovo -- all three locked in bitter disputes with Russia.

Speaking after an EU summit in Brussels, Juncker said the commission "took a positive position on the liberalization of visas" and proposed to "EU leaders that they take rapid decisions on visa liberalization for the three countries," he said.

If approved by EU member states and the European Parliament, citizens could travel to the EU without visas as soon as 2016.

The commission said Georgia and Ukraine met all the conditions for visa-free travel, but it made visa liberalization for Kosovo conditional on Pristina satisfying eight specific points aimed at reigning in corruption and crime.

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Only a few weeks ago, it was said that visum-free regime with Ukraine is not possible as Ukraine makes no progress in combating corruption - the primary condition for visum-free travel to Europe. Doubel-speak again?

German journalists in this article wonder if USA is pressuring EU to open up for Ukraine and Georgia to make life difficult for Russia:

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/12/09/gegen-russland-eu-will-visum-pflicht-fuer-ukraine-aufheben/

One thing is clear: Georgia is the next wild-card at this stage of the political game for domination of Russia. NATO's gambit failed in 2008. Will it work now?

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December 20, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
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I'd say we don't need visa-free Georgians. Most of narcotraffic related crimes were committed by Georgian citizens, it's a sufficient reason for keeping visa regime.
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December 20, 2015, 04:24:25 PM
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I'd say we don't need visa-free Georgians. Most of narcotraffic related crimes were committed by Georgian citizens, it's a sufficient reason for keeping visa regime.

These Georgian citizens are not ethnic Georgians. They are mostly ethnic Azerbaijanis, and Meskhetian Turks having Georgian citizenship. 90% of the heroin trade in Russia is controlled by the ethnic Azerbaijanis, with support from the Tadzhiks and the Uzbecs. Banish all these Azeris, and Russia will see a decline in new HIV incidence and heroin overdose.
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January 28, 2016, 02:44:28 PM
Last edit: January 28, 2016, 05:40:43 PM by Nemo1024
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US-created virus outbreak reported between Kharkov and Donbass:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518645.msg13703903#msg13703903



And in the economy section:

Ukrainians Realize Futility of EU Free Trade, But It's Too Little, Too Late
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160125/1033682894/ukraine-eu-free-trade-futility.html



Kiev Authorities Finishing Off Last Remnants of Ukraine's Economy
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160112/1033003925/ukraine-economy-sanctions-association.html

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Interviewed by independent Russian newspaper Svobodnaya Pressa, Noginsky recalled that "the Ukrainian government  has boasted that since January 1st, [Ukrainian producers] have been issued more than 900 [EUR1] certificates," ostensibly providing Ukrainian companies with duty-free access to the EU.

"At the same time, Kiev is tactfully silent about the fact that most of these certificates were issued for raw, unrefined products. This includes things like apple concentrates, seeds, honey – that is, purely raw goods. As experts had earlier predicted, the certification of enterprises producing finished products is going ahead very slowly. In the last year, only eight companies were given such certification, and this despite the fact that they have been working at it for several years now."

"In other words," Noginsky laments, "the bulk of Ukraine's manufacturers still do not have access to the European market. And this is not even because of the tariffs, but because of 'non-tariff regulations' and the closed nature of the European market."

"After January 1, these same producers lost the Russian market. For example, the meat and dairy industry will factually face crisis, since the main buyers of Ukrainian meat and dairy are Russia and the other countries of the Customs Union."

To make matters worse, asked about the consequences of the Ukrainian counter-counter sanctions banning Russian food products, Noginsky noted that such measures have only one purpose: "to see Russian goods replaced with European ones on the Ukrainian market."

"The government is factually just making it easier for European companies to access Ukraine, and nothing more. In order for companies to safely head to market, it is necessary to first remove any competitors and thus to free up the niche. As a result, people will be forced to switch to European goods. Factually, the Ukrainian government is working for the benefit of European producers, not their own citizens. European goods are more expensive, but due to lack of choice, naturally, people will buy them."

In effect, the expert says, "destroying our own exports is absolutely illogical, and is aimed at destroying Ukraine's economy and turning it into a raw materials-producing nation. What is Europe ready to buy? Raw, unprocessed goods. Our exports last year clearly demonstrated this, with corn, grains and ferrous metals serving as Ukraine's main exports [to Europe]."

"Only a few dozen Ukrainian companies will be able to receive these EUR1 certificates. The rest are simply incapable of doing so. The transition to the new standards requires significant investment. By the way, of those companies that did receive certification, eight have European owners, Danone being an example. In other words, the European owners have opened their factories toward exporting to their own home countries."
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January 30, 2016, 10:00:34 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ILfknJxQg

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January 30, 2016, 02:04:36 PM
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Have an election and do what the majority of the people want. the rest of the world needs to stay out. if the most people want Russia and communist . that is what they should have
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January 31, 2016, 06:42:41 PM
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I just learnt of another industrial victim of the Ukrainian coup d'etat (the previous was the machinery and airspspace industrial giant Yuzhmash). It makes for a tragic note in all of Russian aviation history.

It relates to the Antonov aviation construction bureau

On the 12 of May 2015 it was transferred onto the jurisdiction of the Ukrainian Ministry of defence, and now, on the 26th of January 2016 it got liquidated.

Antonov agency was created in Novosibirsk (RSFSR) in 1946 and in 1952 its operation were transferred into Kiev.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%91_%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2

It's famous for the world's largest aircraft, An-225. I really love this heavy metal liner for its ease for handling and its performance.


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February 04, 2016, 11:53:23 AM
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Yesterday Ukrainian Rada voted overwhelmingly against a legislation draft that would bring Ukraine into NATO. After such outcome, the session was hastily adjourned and a new voting was scheduled for the 14th of February.

USA could obviously not wait that long, so the intimidation work was hastily conducted among the parliamentarians, and a new voting was held today, with the results, proper for the American "national interests": 251 out 226 required parliamentarians now voted for the NATO-joining legislation.

https://rns.online/military/Verhovnaya-Rada-ratifitsirovala-sozdanie-predstavitelstva-NaTO-na-Ukraine-2016-02-04/

Meanwhile, France is starting to wakeup.

A few days ago French TV showed a documentary telling the truth about the 2014 Maidan coup d'etat - despite vehement Ukrainian official protests. And today La Tribune published that France didn't sell Mistrals to Russia under pressure from Poland.

https://rns.online/military/La-Tribune-Frantsiya-otkazalas-prodavat-Rossii-Mistrali-pod-davleniem-Polshi-2016-02-04

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February 04, 2016, 08:24:12 PM
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And the French documentary above, by the way called "Masks of Revolution", was translated into Russian by a volunteer and uploaded to YouTube. Shortly after YouTube removed the video, citing copyright concerns. Most probably it was done, so as not to inform the population of Ukraine about what was done to them by US/West when Nudelman distributed those cookies...

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February 05, 2016, 11:45:36 PM
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The same thing like Arabic spring..but they didn't imagine what Russia would do..it was a surprise for them..now one more country destroyed

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February 11, 2016, 01:53:10 PM
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"Freedom of speech" in Ukraine sets a new low - 15 more Russian TV channels become forbidden in that failed state:

http://www.vedomosti.ru/technology/news/2016/02/11/628568-ukraina-zapretila-telekanalov

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February 14, 2016, 02:49:01 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIGSiW6PZHg

Fresh portion of ukrainian democracy.
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February 14, 2016, 06:37:02 PM
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"Freedom of speech" in Ukraine sets a new low - 15 more Russian TV channels become forbidden in that failed state:

http://www.vedomosti.ru/technology/news/2016/02/11/628568-ukraina-zapretila-telekanalov

They might ban all the Russian language channels and newspapers. They might even ban the internet, as most of the Ukrainians visit Russian language websites rather than the English and German ones. This is how the Kiev junta is showing tolerance towards a language, which is spoken as a mothertongue by more than 80% of the population.
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February 17, 2016, 10:53:45 AM
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In Ukraine, a teacher of Russian language and literature got convicted for 3 years for "separatism" for keeping a language-related site on a social network:
http://lenta.ru/news/2016/02/17/teacher/

Nazism at work in Ukraine.

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February 18, 2016, 05:07:00 PM
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Madhouse that is Ukraine is still at work. They now want to by law forbid the names "Rus" and "Russia". Initiative comes from the Nazi Ljashko:
http://www.aif.ru/politics/world/na_ukraine_hotyat_zapretit_nazvanie_rossiya

Meanwhile Russia has filed a lawsuit against Ukraine regarding the $3 billion debt. Ukraine is trying to reclassify the debt as "bribe".
http://www.aif.ru/money/economy/ukraina_namerena_dokazat_chto_dolg_pered_rf_yavlyaetsya_vzyatkoy

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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