Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution.

[Balthazar]

 

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[bryant.coleman]

Such a beautiful country ruined by the NATO (political side) & Russians (land side) !
Hope it will recover from this mess soon!

Looking at the situation in Ukraine, I really doubt whether that will be possible even in the long term. The American corporations are looting the natural resources of Ukraine with impunity. Millions of hectares of farmland has been given out on long term leases. Even the top soil is being stolen, and shipped to Western nations using gigantic cargo ships.

[snipie]

Such a beautiful country ruined by the NATO (political side) & Russians (land side) !
Hope it will recover from this mess soon!

Looking at the situation in Ukraine, I really doubt whether that will be possible even in the long term. The American corporations are looting the natural resources of Ukraine with impunity. Millions of hectares of farmland has been given out on long term leases. Even the top soil is being stolen, and shipped to Western nations using gigantic cargo ships.

Western ''democratic'' countries never gives money to poorer countries because they love them or try to help people. NEVER.
It is a sort of a control, ''economic invasion'' in other words and of course they love sucking the oil, natural resources and everything that a country has till the last drop!
But also Russia made many mistakes with her sister in the past and even now..
The massive destruction that happened will not be fixed for years...

(i am not pro-Russian nor pro-NATO)

[Xenoph0bia]

I think that people are just getting tired of the war. Thousands of people have lost their lives, most of them in their 20s and 30s. The economy is damaged beyond any sort of repair. Gas prices have skyrocketed, and imported goods are prohibitively expensive because of the devaluation of the Hryvnia. Those who supported the Maidan are now wondering whether the coup was worth it.

[vero]

Bottom line Russia will talk its way out, and get what ever it wants and more and most likely Poland will be next on the list Then Hungary, Romania and who knows who else while the Russians rebuild themselves

[bryant.coleman]

I think that people are just getting tired of the war. Thousands of people have lost their lives, most of them in their 20s and 30s. The economy is damaged beyond any sort of repair. Gas prices have skyrocketed, and imported goods are prohibitively expensive because of the devaluation of the Hryvnia. Those who supported the Maidan are now wondering whether the coup was worth it.

Not just "thousands", but "tens of thousands". Both the government and the rebels have under-stated their loses. According to a German news paper, at least 50,000 people have lost their lives so far in the conflict. That said, a significant part of the population (especially radicals from Lwow and Ternopol) still supports the continuation of war.

[Balthazar]

I think that people are just getting tired of the war. Thousands of people have lost their lives, most of them in their 20s and 30s. The economy is damaged beyond any sort of repair. Gas prices have skyrocketed, and imported goods are prohibitively expensive because of the devaluation of the Hryvnia. Those who supported the Maidan are now wondering whether the coup was worth it.

Not just "thousands", but "tens of thousands". Both the government and the rebels have under-stated their loses. According to a German news paper, at least 50,000 people have lost their lives so far in the conflict. That said, a significant part of the population (especially radicals from Lwow and Ternopol) still supports the continuation of war.

It seems that these mindless rednecks from Lviv and Ternopil always want war. I think, some kind of demonstration would be very helpful, something like i.e. few shots from GRAD to their cities.

[Nemo1024]

There was a peaceful demonstration in front of the American embassy in Kiev yesterday, where people came with placards, reading "American war hounds out of Ukraine", "Stop destruction of Ukraine" and "Stop the war in Donbass".

[Balthazar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBkUhq1YTnU

 

[Balthazar]

http://coub.com/view/2ld0u

 

[Balthazar]

Hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntx0aZyu5Lc

Ukrainian parliament is so civilized.

[bryant.coleman]

Hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntx0aZyu5Lc

Ukrainian parliament is so civilized.

Nothing special there. Just the routine affairs as far as the Ukrainian parliamentarians are concerned. What do you really expect, when you elect rapists, neo-Nazis, murderers, bandits.etc as the members of parliament? Also, popular support and honesty are irrelevant in Ukraine. All that matters is raw muscle power.

[YarkoL]

Sooo... what do you gents think about the
recent news of Bitcoin getting glowing approval
with Ukrainan banking sector?

http://forklog.net/the-national-bank-of-ukraine-concedes-integration-of-bitcoin/

[Nemo1024]

Hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntx0aZyu5Lc

Ukrainian parliament is so civilized.

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOs9i0FFrvI

Another angle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls_a4C1mYso
It's a must-watch, how Yats got presented with roses, then bodily grabbed by his "European values" and carried from the podium, rigid, as if he is a cardboard cut-out!

 

[Balthazar]

 

[Nemo1024]

Some fun read:

Ukraine Scandals: Transatlantic Boss Joe Biden and Ukraine’s Spiders in a Jar
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/12/18/ukraine-idiocracy-big-boss-joe-biden-thieves-avakov-saakashvili-violent-row-yatsenyuk-dragged-off-by-bls/

Warning! This post is for those who really want to know what’s happening in Ukraine, and for those who have a sense of humor. If it seems unusually sarchastic for my style, well, that’s because the idiocracy in Ukraine and USA has reached such heights that it’s not possible to talk about it seriously any more. Remember my old mini-series: “Crazy Asylum Called Ukraine”? Alas, Ukraine has regressed well past that stage. Shall we call the new stage: ‘IDIOCRACY PLUS’ ?

Just after US VP Joe Biden visited Kiev, where he was given a standing ovation in the Kiev Rada, two interesting events happened, demonstrating how far gone this ukro-nazi regime has become, and how hopeless it is for the future of the poor, long-suffering people of Ukraine.

First, let’s see what happened during Biden’s visit. It wasn’t like a visit of any highly respected foreign leader, with red carpet rolled out and military guard at attention, as international diplomatic protocol might demand. Nope. First of, Vice President Biden isn’t equal to Poroshenko, the president of the ‘sovereign’ Ukraine. By protocol, he could be received by the leader of a nation for talks, but shouldn’t be greeted with any special pomp. Yet Poroshenko, and it seems, everyone in Kiev, were clinging to Biden for dear life throughout his visit.

In honor of Biden’s visit, the flag of Ukraine was taken down and the American flag installed above government building in Kiev. For any other country this would have been a major embarrassment, but not for Ukraine. The official Kiev was awfully proud of it.
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Btw, Ukrainian Antonov air-plane construction agency is to sell 30 multi-purpose experimental planes AN-178 to Saudi Arabia.

http://ria.ru/world/20151218/1344414599.html

Nothing noteworthy, if not for the name these planes are given - "Banderas". Imagine Airbus rolling out some A-340 "Hitler".  

It's a real shame that Antonov construction agency name is dragged through the mud in such a away, for it an excellent agency, on par with Iljushin and Sukhoj.

[Nemo1024]

Russia is expecting Ukraine to pay back the debt of 3.5 billion dollars by the 20th of December. Ukraine put a moratorium on the payment of the debt, absolving themselves of it. Russia says that this is de facto admission of default by Ukraine.
If Ukraine fails to pay, Russia will be suing Ukraine once 10 days after the deadline have passed.

[bryant.coleman]

Russia is expecting Ukraine to pay back the debt of 3.5 billion dollars by the 20th of December. Ukraine put a moratorium on the payment of the debt, absolving themselves of it. Russia says that this is de facto admission of default by Ukraine.
If Ukraine fails to pay, Russia will be suing Ukraine once 10 days after the deadline have passed.

Be ready for a lengthy legal battle. The IMF recently changed some of their own terms and conditions, in order to help Ukraine with this situation. I would like to see some strong-arm tactics from Russia (such as capturing the remaining parts of the Donbass), rather than going for arbitration in the biased pro-American courts.

[Nemo1024]

Russia is expecting Ukraine to pay back the debt of 3.5 billion dollars by the 20th of December. Ukraine put a moratorium on the payment of the debt, absolving themselves of it. Russia says that this is de facto admission of default by Ukraine.
If Ukraine fails to pay, Russia will be suing Ukraine once 10 days after the deadline have passed.

Be ready for a lengthy legal battle. The IMF recently changed some of their own terms and conditions, in order to help Ukraine with this situation. I would like to see some strong-arm tactics from Russia (such as capturing the remaining parts of the Donbass), rather than going for arbitration in the biased pro-American courts.

This is exactly what USNATO/West would like to see as well to start foul-mouthing Russia even more, and this is exactly what Russia has not been doing for the past year and a half despite numerous military and financial provocations. I don't expect this to change. Russia will continue pushing for a civilised solution based on international law.

[vero]

Russia is expecting Ukraine to pay back the debt of 3.5 billion dollars by the 20th of December. Ukraine put a moratorium on the payment of the debt, absolving themselves of it. Russia says that this is de facto admission of default by Ukraine.
If Ukraine fails to pay, Russia will be suing Ukraine once 10 days after the deadline have passed.

Be ready for a lengthy legal battle. The IMF recently changed some of their own terms and conditions, in order to help Ukraine with this situation. I would like to see some strong-arm tactics from Russia (such as capturing the remaining parts of the Donbass), rather than going for arbitration in the biased pro-American courts.

IMF enslaves nations by bailing them out of economic hardships with loans of worthless printed money. Unfortunately for IMF, events in Ukraine don't seem to unravel according the the script. The far-right movement is already threatening to depose the current gov't, and the industrial part of the country is in civil war. Ukrainians are extremely proud people. They will torch Kiev as many times as it takes until real change arrives. A change that takes people's interests into account.