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August 27, 2014, 01:27:41 PM
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Hah! So now we're turning to the French to ask what is right and who should be supporter? The same guys who support the dictator in Chad and other parts of Africa, and who supported dictators in Middle East? You guys are funny  Grin

There is a chasm between french gov and the people. But yea French gov do support terrorist. Usa, israel and co. The soldiers are tired of this shit.
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August 27, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2014, 01:54:00 PM by Nemo1024
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An interesting Op-Edge on RT:

‘Poroshenko wants to internationalize the situation and turn it into a conflict between Ukraine and Russia’
http://rt.com/op-edge/183112-russia-ukraine-crisis-negotiations-gas/

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Russia does not consider itself party to the conflict in Ukraine, seeing it as a conflict between the Eastern Ukrainians and the Kiev, while Poroshenko’s analysis of the situation is totally different, legal expert and blogger Alexander Mercouris told RT.

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RT: Why do you think Vladimir Putin devoted most of his opening speech to economics, unlike his Ukrainian counterpart, who right away spoke about the conflict in Ukraine?

AM: The fundamental difference is that the Russians do not consider themselves to be a party to the conflict in Ukraine. They see the conflict there as a conflict between the people in the Eastern Ukraine and the authorities who came to power in Kiev in February. So their analysis of the situation is totally different from the one of Poroshenko and of the people in Kiev who want to internationalize the question and turn it into a conflict between Ukraine and Russia. That is why you see a totally different approach from the two presidents.

So far Russia managed to not get involved, except for sending a few trucks with humanitarian aid to the genocided Russian population of the East-Ukraine, and getting hit by the sanctions for a few of its diplomatic efforts at initiating peace process.  I hope for the world in general that Russia will continue to deny NATO warmongers the pleasure of creating WWIII, and stay strictly on the diplomatic level.

Judging by the reactions from the Russians, there is hope:

Most Russians see Ukrainian turmoil as civil war - poll
http://rt.com/politics/182860-russia-ukraine-civil-poll/

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Almost 60 percent of Russians consider the current crisis in Ukraine a civil war, and the same share of those polled do not expect the strain in Russia-Ukraine relations to develop into a ‘hot’ military conflict.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 27, 2014, 02:03:15 PM
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So, those Eastern Ukrainians were just sitting around, minding their own business, and then suddenly Ukraine rolled in with tanks and soldiers and started shooting everyone? And where is all that Russian aid that they're supposedly providing to the embattled eastern Ukrainians? So far all we've seen is weapons and rockets to shoot down civilian planes with.

By the way, with all this "Western Media" bullshit, you guys are really starting to sound like Islamic extremists.
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August 27, 2014, 02:10:32 PM
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So, those Eastern Ukrainians were just sitting around, minding their own business, and then suddenly Ukraine rolled in with tanks and soldiers and started shooting everyone? And where is all that Russian aid that they're supposedly providing to the embattled eastern Ukrainians? So far all we've seen is weapons and rockets to shoot down civilian planes with.

By the way, with all this "Western Media" bullshit, you guys are starting to sound like Islamic extremists.

yea right the same that USA, Israel & EU funded and trained with their 'rich' buddies from Qatar and Saudi Arabia... those fucking mercenaires that are PAID to scream allah ouakbar!

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August 30, 2014, 06:02:41 PM
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Europarliament will ratify the agreement about Ukraine's association with EU using a sped-up procedure. They say that this agreement is vitally important right now (never mind the genocide in the East):
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1410904?utm_medium=rss20

I guess they are not that sure that Poroshenko will stay in power for much longer and that the next Ukrainian president will be eager for EU association.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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August 30, 2014, 06:34:28 PM
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This will go to paying back 5 billion dollars worth of Ukrainian state bonds that Russia bought a few years back to help keep Ukrainian economy afloat, as well as for the gas debt. It will also go (and not be enough) to offset the 60% of GDP worth of revenue that Ukraine had from its trade with Russia.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
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August 31, 2014, 12:33:23 AM
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Ukraine, and especially Kiev, is really hoping to position itself as the Silicon Valley of Europe. They already have a huge amount of skilled IT professionals, and even have Bitcoin support at over 4,000 ATMs around Ukraine.
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August 31, 2014, 12:39:01 AM
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Ukraine, and especially Kiev, is really hoping to position itself as the Silicon Valley of Europe. They already have a huge amount of skilled IT professionals, and even have Bitcoin support at over 4,000 ATMs around Ukraine.

wtf are you smoking?
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August 31, 2014, 12:39:39 AM
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Ukraine, and especially Kiev, is really hoping to position itself as the Silicon Valley of Europe. They already have a huge amount of skilled IT professionals, and even have Bitcoin support at over 4,000 ATMs around Ukraine.

Looks like everyone wants to become a new mecca for IT industry nowadays...  Roll Eyes
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August 31, 2014, 12:41:22 AM
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Ukraine, and especially Kiev, is really hoping to position itself as the Silicon Valley of Europe. They already have a huge amount of skilled IT professionals, and even have Bitcoin support at over 4,000 ATMs around Ukraine.

Looks like everyone wants to become a new mecca for IT industry nowadays...  Roll Eyes

What they don't realize is coder and software developers are getting cheaper everyday in India and China.

It is a race to the bottom when it come to IT industry.
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August 31, 2014, 12:46:39 AM
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^^ Yep.

Hint for all incompetent political leaders: when you have no idea what to do with your country's decaying economy, start selling IT fairytales to the people.
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August 31, 2014, 12:50:45 AM
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Ukraine, and especially Kiev, is really hoping to position itself as the Silicon Valley of Europe. They already have a huge amount of skilled IT professionals, and even have Bitcoin support at over 4,000 ATMs around Ukraine.

Looks like everyone wants to become a new mecca for IT industry nowadays...  Roll Eyes

What they don't realize is coder and software developers are getting cheaper everyday in India and China.

It is a race to the bottom when it come to IT industry.

Actually it's the opposite. India wages have gone up exponentially, and a lot of the coders there got used to the idea that they work at a company for a year, then quit, go to another new foreign company, and make twice as much. Now everyone demands too much money, and it's impossible to keep employees for more than a year. India is no longer competitive compared to many other countries. In China the problem is similar, but not as bad, where a lot of Chinese companies are competing for developers, and are just raising the wages themselves to be able to retain their employees. Now it is very hard to find software developers (and workers in many industries) in China, and although many of the companies remained the same and employees are loyal, their wages are getting as high as India and other parts of the world too.

The only places left where software developer wages are still low are places like SouthEast Asia and Africa, where education isn't that great, and thus number of software developers is low, and places like Russia and Eastern Europe, where education has always been really good, and there are a lot of desperate software developers with nothing to do. So the race is at the top, India and China are almost at the finish line, and it'll be Ukraine's turn soon.

P.S. CSC, the largest IT services and outsourcing company in the world, is not even looking at India and China any more, but are looking into places like Malasia, Kenya, and Eastern Europe.
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October 05, 2014, 01:45:01 PM
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October 05, 2014, 02:35:25 PM
Last edit: October 06, 2014, 09:26:51 AM by Nemo1024
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This is sick.
"Glory to the great Germany, the liberator"

PS: On closer inspection, according to a comment from here
http://vk.com/id155789887
This was a film set.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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October 07, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
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So where to hide in case there will be war between USA and Russia? I live relativley close to these countries Sad

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October 07, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
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So where to hide in case there will be war between USA and Russia? I live relativley close to these countries Sad

That's a funny statement. Does it mean Earth in general or Canada/Norway/Greenland/Japan?

I think it will be pretty safe (for a certain value of safe) to live in either of USA or Russia. Avoid countries hosting NATO military bases. Especially avoid if said countries are also a platform for the "defensive shield". That's the countries that will get hit first and hardest.Smiley

The best option would be Mars.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
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“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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October 07, 2014, 12:51:31 PM
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So where to hide in case there will be war between USA and Russia? I live relativley close to these countries Sad

That's a funny statement. Does it mean Earth in general or Canada/Norway/Greenland/Japan?

I think it will be pretty safe (for a certain value of safe) to live in either of USA or Russia. Avoid countries hosting NATO military bases. Especially avoid if said countries are also a platform for the "defensive shield". That's the countries that will get hit first and hardest.Smiley

The best option would be Mars.

Maybe in Hollow Earth


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October 09, 2014, 10:38:45 AM
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http://gmk.rbc.ua/rus/na-tripolskoy-tes-antratsita-dlya-vyrabotki-energii-ostalos-08102014145300

No more fuel left, remaining coal reserves will be enough for less than 3 days... And then bye-bye to electricity in Kiev. Viva revolution.
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October 09, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
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http://gmk.rbc.ua/rus/na-tripolskoy-tes-antratsita-dlya-vyrabotki-energii-ostalos-08102014145300

No more fuel left, remaining coal reserves will be enough for less than 3 days... And then bye-bye to electricity in Kiev. Viva revolution.

Yes with more 500 trucks by day stolen of coal going to Russia... perhaps Russia will want to sell it back to Ukrainian LoL ?
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October 09, 2014, 03:22:27 PM
Last edit: October 09, 2014, 03:39:27 PM by Balthazar
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Yes with more 500 trucks by day stolen of coal going to Russia...

Stolen coal went to Russia is something comparable to stolen water went to the Black Sea. The funniest joke I ever seen, I'm sorry for asking but where did you get this nonsense? Cheesy

P.S. Not to mention that only idiots will use trucks for coal transportation when there is a working railway available.
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