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Safety from the NATO, against activists from the east and Russia. Sure, we all know many incidents like that. Although that's a very small part of all the soldiers on earth. But hey, killing civilians is less worse right? .. |
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Nemo1024
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June 06, 2014, 02:07:23 PM |
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Safety from the NATO, against activists from the east and Russia. Sure, we all know many incidents like that. Although that's a very small part of all the soldiers on earth. But hey, killing civilians is less worse right? .. The US-involvement in atrocities in murder of civilians is well documented, so, yes, that's another reason to shy away from NATO bases. |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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bryant.coleman
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June 06, 2014, 02:10:32 PM |
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Safety from the NATO, against activists from the east and Russia.
Sure, we all know many incidents like that. Although that's a very small part of all the soldiers on earth. But hey, killing civilians is less worse right? ..
Such incidents occur too frequently to be called rare. And now we can talk about killing civilians. Do you think that NATO is having a good track record on that (especially in Afghanistan and Iraq)? Do you want me to give you examples? |
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Don007
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June 06, 2014, 02:12:23 PM |
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Safety from the NATO, against activists from the east and Russia. Sure, we all know many incidents like that. Although that's a very small part of all the soldiers on earth. But hey, killing civilians is less worse right? .. The US-involvement in atrocities in murder of civilians is well documented, so, yes, that's another reason to shy away from NATO bases. I was talking about the current situation in Ukraine. Yes, I know about US involvement in such incidents. Mind that they've the biggest army in the world (right?), so that makes sense that more incidents are reported. However, a NATO army isn't just the USA. The NATO is more than just the USA. |
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Nemo1024
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June 06, 2014, 02:20:51 PM |
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Only about 30% more, the remaining 70% is US... 
This one's important: Us or them: German peace researchers give EU-Ukraine policy failing gradehttp://rt.com/news/164164-germany-eu-ukraine-policy/German Peace researchers have criticized EU foreign policy for putting Ukraine in “an unacceptable either/or” situation, which has both contributed to causing the ongoing crisis in the country and done little to alleviate it.
The assessment was made by five leading research institutes in their ‘Friedensgutachten 2014’ (Peace Report 2014), presented jointly in Berlin on Tuesday, Deutsche Welle reports.
“The European Union policy of essentially presenting Ukraine with an either/or choice in the form of the association agreement was a momentous mistake," said Ines-Jacqueline Werkner of the Protestant Institute for Interdisciplinary Research in Heidelberg (FEST).
Merkel and Putin had the first talk in person since the start of the crisis: http://itar-tass.com/politika/1242546?utm_medium=rss20 |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 06, 2014, 03:13:19 PM |
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Yes, I know about US involvement in such incidents. Mind that they've the biggest army in the world (right?), so that makes sense that more incidents are reported. Just because they are the biggest army (I really doubt that, as far as I know, the PLA is the biggest one), they have the right to commit rape and murder abroad? I never hear reports of Chinese soldiers raping women in Angola or Russian soldiers shooting civilians in Abkhazia. |
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June 06, 2014, 03:18:48 PM |
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Yes, I know about US involvement in such incidents. Mind that they've the biggest army in the world (right?), so that makes sense that more incidents are reported. Just because they are the biggest army (I really doubt that, as far as I know, the PLA is the biggest one), they have the right to commit rape and murder abroad? I never hear reports of Chinese soldiers raping women in Angola or Russian soldiers shooting civilians in Abkhazia. |
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June 06, 2014, 03:22:04 PM |
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Even the European Union has said that Georgia was the aggressor in this battle. It happened inside China. |
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niothor
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June 06, 2014, 03:27:12 PM |
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Even the European Union has said that Georgia was the aggressor in this battle. So this gives the right at shooting civilians , good to know! It happened inside China. Same as above. |
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Nemo1024
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June 06, 2014, 03:28:06 PM |
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Turchinov cancelled 82 decrees signed by Kuchma, Jushenko and Janukovish during the last years: http://www.interfax.ru/world/380014He is making the most of the remaining day (of his life?). |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 06, 2014, 03:30:14 PM |
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So this gives the right at shooting civilians , good to know! The Georgian troops had massacred close to 1,000 civilians prior to the arrival of Russian re-reinforcements. And these so called Russian troops included non-Russsians such as Abkhazs and Trans-dniestrians. |
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niothor
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June 06, 2014, 03:44:40 PM |
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Turchinov cancelled 82 decrees signed by Kuchma, Jushenko and Janukovish during the last years: http://www.interfax.ru/world/380014He is making the most of the remaining day (of his life?). Not on the article but I saw this below: http://www.interfax.ru/world/380007Care to translate the last paragraph? He did say that there is NO solution for a peaceful end or that so solution has been discussed ? |
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Nemo1024
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June 06, 2014, 03:44:59 PM |
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Ljashko (a deputy of the Ukrainian Parliament) pushed out Russian journalists who had the credentials to film in Rada out, while trying to tear their credentials in bits. According to a Ukrainian lawyer, by doing so, Ljashko broke two laws protecting journalist activity. European Association of Journalists strongly condemned Ljashko's actions: http://ria.ru/world/20140606/1011004571.html
Not on the article but I saw this below: http://www.interfax.ru/world/380007Care to translate the last paragraph? He did say that there is NO solution for a peaceful end or that so solution has been discussed ? He confirmed that there are no alternatives to solving this by peaceful means. (He could have formulated it better, though.) |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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niothor
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June 06, 2014, 03:48:52 PM |
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So this gives the right at shooting civilians , good to know! The Georgian troops had massacred close to 1,000 civilians prior to the arrival of Russian re-reinforcements. And these so called Russian troops included non-Russsians such as Abkhazs and Trans-dniestrians. Just because the enemy rapes 1000 woman doesn't give you the right to rape 100. And I really like you Russians (i suppose you don't mind I call you russian ) , the urss was never lead by a russian , your army is made more of non-russians , the criminals are all immigrants , is there any true russian left in that country? Talking about shifting the blame. Never heard you defending the us troops for a mistake because that soldier was an afro american not born in the states. |
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niothor
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June 06, 2014, 03:51:36 PM |
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Not on the article but I saw this below: http://www.interfax.ru/world/380007Care to translate the last paragraph? He did say that there is NO solution for a peaceful end or that so solution has been discussed ? He confirmed that there are no alternatives to solving this by peaceful means. (He could have formulated it better, though.) [/quote] So they guy basically said , it will end when we kill them all or the rebels get killed. I'm waiting for any other staments made by the guys with the real power and how they put it in their own words. My opinion is still that this is turning into a never ending story like Syria. |
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June 06, 2014, 03:55:07 PM
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No, no, no. You see why I said, that he could have formulated it better.
The sentence's meaning is: There are no other ways of solving this, but through peaceful means.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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niothor
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June 06, 2014, 04:02:20 PM |
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No, no, no. You see why I said, that he could have formulated it better.
The sentence's meaning is: There a no other ways of solving this, but through peaceful means.
Got it , I was amazed when I first read it and when comparing to the damn Google translate it made the thing worse. Ok , step one done , it took them two months. I wonder when they will make a plan and when they will apply it.By the time everyone is dead? |
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June 06, 2014, 04:09:14 PM |
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The sentence's meaning is: There a no other ways of solving this, but through peaceful means.
This is right translation. |
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June 06, 2014, 04:52:34 PM |
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Ljashko (a deputy of the Ukrainian Parliament) pushed out Russian journalists who had the credentials to film in Rada out, while trying to tear their credentials in bits. According to a Ukrainian lawyer, by doing so, Ljashko broke two laws protecting journalist activity. European Association of Journalists strongly condemned Ljashko's actions: http://ria.ru/world/20140606/1011004571.htmlMore on Ljashko: Ukrainian MP kicks out Russian journos from parliament, calls them ‘spies’ (VIDEO)http://rt.com/news/164260-russia-journalists-parliament-ukraine/
At this very moment there is a live sending from France with Putin giving speech and answering questions (English dubbed): http://rt.com/on-air/ |
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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June 06, 2014, 04:54:54 PM |
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Just because the enemy rapes 1000 woman doesn't give you the right to rape 100. Rape? There were no reports of rape during the conflict of 2008. There might have been some civilian casualties, but most of them were caused by the Georgian troops. And I really like you Russians (i suppose you don't mind I call you russian ) I do mind. Can I call you American just because you are supporting the US troops? |
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