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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1537131 times)
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July 28, 2011, 10:36:16 PM
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Hey, I'm having trouble getting any of my miners to connect to Deepbit.net's server.  I switched my payout rate from per-share to proportional and haven't been able to connect since.  Oh wait...I just realized it changed my worker name randomly!  Not cool.  Well, I'll change my login batch file to match then.  But why the random change that made me switch pools?

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July 28, 2011, 11:32:58 PM
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Does the current PPS amount quoted include the fee, or is it calculated after? Current rate is 0.00003262705594458 BTC per share.

Would I get 0.00003262705594458, or 0.00003262705594458*0.9?

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July 28, 2011, 11:36:44 PM
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Average shares per block: 1548770 (-9.2%)
Average in last 24 hours: 1977226 (+14.5%)

How to "read" this?  Stay with proportional or per share in this situation?
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July 29, 2011, 01:24:34 AM
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Hey, I was just wondering, how do I find out how much the PPC method is per share?  I've been looking all over the place and can't seem to find it listed anywhere.

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July 29, 2011, 01:29:09 AM
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Does the current PPS amount quoted include the fee, or is it calculated after? Current rate is 0.00003262705594458 BTC per share.

Would I get 0.00003262705594458, or 0.00003262705594458*0.9?

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The former.  It has already factored in the 10%.

Hey, I was just wondering, how do I find out how much the PPC method is per share?  I've been looking all over the place and can't seem to find it listed anywhere.

1st post of this thread.  Tycho keeps it updated with the PPS #.

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July 29, 2011, 01:37:02 AM
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Average shares per block: 1548770 (-9.2%)
Average in last 24 hours: 1977226 (+14.5%)

How to "read" this?  Stay with proportional or per share in this situation?

You would of made a slightly more with PPS vs. Proportional during the last 24 hours. 10% fee for PPS vs. 3% fee for Proportional which is a difference of 7% so once you're more than about 7% 'unlucky' (in general using incorrect math)... you're making more with PPS.

As with all historical 'Luck' results, does not guarantee future luck results.  PPS should only be for people willing to 'eat' the 10% fee and just want a very stable income for a specific difficulty level.

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July 29, 2011, 02:08:12 AM
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I got a question.  I'm mining at Deepbit and on TM, with two separate GPUs, one per rig. I am also running two BC nodes (one is backup).

This morning I found that one of my nodes Generated 0.02331947 coins. This is weird, I have never generated anything.  Now, my question is this... was this a block that I found FOR THE POOL? If so, why did I get the fees (i'm assuming they were the fees)

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July 29, 2011, 02:58:00 AM
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Does the current PPS amount quoted include the fee, or is it calculated after? Current rate is 0.00003262705594458 BTC per share.

Would I get 0.00003262705594458, or 0.00003262705594458*0.9?

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The current pay per share is 0.00002661294865101.  That is on the deepbit's main page.
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July 29, 2011, 03:08:47 AM
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I got a question.  I'm mining at Deepbit and on TM, with two separate GPUs, one per rig. I am also running two BC nodes (one is backup).

This morning I found that one of my nodes Generated 0.02331947 coins. This is weird, I have never generated anything.  Now, my question is this... was this a block that I found FOR THE POOL? If so, why did I get the fees (i'm assuming they were the fees)

I thought the pools kept the fees for themselves as part of their income?
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July 29, 2011, 03:57:56 AM
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So is this a new highscore for a block? Tongue

28.07 21:16:10   2h 18m    0    10339261     None

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July 29, 2011, 05:35:42 AM
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So is this a new highscore for a block? Tongue

28.07 21:16:10   2h 18m    0    10339261     None

Yep, it's actually more then our record-round.

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# Solved block Valid Shares Total Shares Finished         Duration
266 135944         10 048 350 10 316 325 12 Jul 21:02:45 20h 33m

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July 29, 2011, 07:03:41 AM
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Weird, none of my miners can connect right now Sad

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July 29, 2011, 07:08:17 AM
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I cannot connect either.  Undecided
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July 29, 2011, 07:15:28 AM
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Total hashing just dropped to 3K+ from 5K+

and going back up quickly...

Must have been a temp disruption or something like that...
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July 29, 2011, 12:37:22 PM
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Hey, I was just wondering, how do I find out how much the PPC method is per share?  I've been looking all over the place and can't seem to find it listed anywhere.
1st post of this thread.  Tycho keeps it updated with the PPS #.
Correct value is displayed on the main page of the site. It's updated automatically.

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July 29, 2011, 01:08:46 PM
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Hey, I'm having trouble getting any of my miners to connect to Deepbit.net's server.  I switched my payout rate from per-share to proportional and haven't been able to connect since.  Oh wait...I just realized it changed my worker name randomly!  Not cool.  Well, I'll change my login batch file to match then.  But why the random change that made me switch pools?
There shouldn't be any random changes. PM me your login name.

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July 29, 2011, 01:11:35 PM
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So is this a new highscore for a block? :P
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No, it's not. We had more than 11m :)

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July 29, 2011, 01:16:05 PM
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Basically, we can earn namecoins and bitcoins at the same time. It sounds crazy, but it appears that there is no loss of bitcoin hashing power when adding namecoin mining. Just additional free profits. The only thing needed to enable this is changes on your end.
Yes, I know about this possibility, but I'm not planning to do this in next days.

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July 29, 2011, 01:17:37 PM
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This morning I found that one of my nodes Generated 0.02331947 coins. This is weird, I have never generated anything.  Now, my question is this... was this a block that I found FOR THE POOL? If so, why did I get the fees (i'm assuming they were the fees)
Have you ever mined in luke's pool ? If you did one week ago then this is his payout.

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July 29, 2011, 02:47:16 PM
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This morning I found that one of my nodes Generated 0.02331947 coins. This is weird, I have never generated anything.  Now, my question is this... was this a block that I found FOR THE POOL? If so, why did I get the fees (i'm assuming they were the fees)
Have you ever mined in luke's pool ? If you did one week ago then this is his payout.

Nope.  I don't even know who Luke is.  Let me explain my set up and you'll see how weird this is.

I'm mining with two computers, one is my everyday PC. Both using Windows 7. My "working" computer (everyday pc) has 2 video cards, one that handles my two monitors, and the other GPU is only for mining. (it has a dummy plug) [a 6790 running 200mhps]

My other computer, which I call my rig, only has the 1 video card, which needs no monitor/dummy plug. It has a 6870 running 288mhps.

On this rig, I am running a bitcoin node (has a wallet).  My router is forwarding port 8332 to this rig, so the node has 8 connections.

On my working PC, I am running the node that "connects" to the rig's node. It shows only one connection, and my rig's shows 9 connections when this one is on.  The wallet I use for payouts is on my working computer.

When everything is going great over at triplemining, I have both GUIminers pointing there, with deepbit being the backup.  Well, there is a huge unlucky block at TM and I set my RIG's miner to deepbit for a few days, while my working computer's miner stays with TM.

Then on July 27 at 23:03 (USA Central Time) I see that I have generated 0.02331947 and it needs 120 blocks to confirm.  I visit TM's stats, and the long block is still there, so I didn't solve a block for them.  Then I visit deepbit and I can't tell who solved a block for the pool, but I assume that I did.

I have NEVER generated a block for a pool, or for solo mining before. I don't know what that looks like.  I thought I would solve a 50 BTC block and have it NOT credit my node.  But this, this 0.02 generation is boggling the mind.

I mean, the GPU who was mining at deepbit, is on the RIG, and the node on that right has not generated anything.  The GPU on my everyday working computer was/is mining at TM, yet this is the node that gets a generation reward.  (and it's connected through my rig)

I may never know. And I accept this now.

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