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February 20, 2012, 03:35:33 AM
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It's time to support BIP16, [Tycho].

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February 20, 2012, 03:45:23 AM
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It's time to support BIP16, [Tycho].
Why do you insist on repeating yourself ad nauseum? All you are doing is being annoying.

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February 20, 2012, 04:01:12 AM
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It's time to support BIP16, [Tycho].

Why?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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February 20, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
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Because he promised, and this is his duty.

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February 20, 2012, 05:03:37 AM
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Because he promised, and this is his duty.

Why implement it at all?  Nobody has made a real argument which proves the need.  So, again, why?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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February 21, 2012, 12:37:26 AM
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Why implement it at all?  Nobody has made a real argument which proves the need.  So, again, why?
That's you, i guess.

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February 21, 2012, 05:01:58 AM
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Why implement it at all?  Nobody has made a real argument which proves the need.  So, again, why?
That's you, i guess.

I'm glad to see that you have thought it through so thoroughly.  That's about par for the course though.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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February 21, 2012, 04:28:02 PM
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There are conscious on supporting BIP16, cause it will make bitcoin more safe.
as you can see, slush & BTCGuild are supporting BIP16,
and more than 5 TOP10 pools are supporting BIP16,
You are acting against it, you're not making bitcoin safe.
Errrm, you might want to read my post in the Technical Discussion subforum. Turns out that once BIP16 is enabled, all other miners will be forced to upgrade pronto or risk losing money. (In fact, arguably it's even worse than that - apparently if BIP16 went live with only 55% of mining power supporting it it'd make 6 confirmation double-spend attacks against old nodes quite a bit easier than they ought to be.)

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February 22, 2012, 12:49:57 AM
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There are conscious on supporting BIP16, cause it will make bitcoin more safe.
as you can see, slush & BTCGuild are supporting BIP16,
and more than 5 TOP10 pools are supporting BIP16,
You are acting against it, you're not making bitcoin safe.
Errrm, you might want to read my post in the Technical Discussion subforum. Turns out that once BIP16 is enabled, all other miners will be forced to upgrade pronto or risk losing money. (In fact, arguably it's even worse than that - apparently if BIP16 went live with only 55% of mining power supporting it it'd make 6 confirmation double-spend attacks against old nodes quite a bit easier than they ought to be.)

OP_EVAL are more disruptive,right? why you like it?



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February 22, 2012, 06:12:36 PM
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Hi, why aren't all pools implementing real accounts (payout AND payin) so that they can act like banks with mobile clients that use QR code scanning and transfer money with a click on your smartphone?

Because you haven't started one yet.  Smiley That's the beauty of Bitcoin right now...See a need, fill a need, profit. PM me if your interested in a Bitcoin account.
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February 23, 2012, 02:51:10 PM
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why do i have less shares but more gh/s...is that something that im obviously doing wrong, or missing?

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February 23, 2012, 03:14:07 PM
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why do i have less shares but more gh/s...is that something that im obviously doing wrong, or missing?

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Because it's total figure. He just started earlier :)

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February 23, 2012, 03:19:11 PM
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Hi, why aren't all pools implementing real accounts (payout AND payin) so that they can act like banks with mobile clients that use QR code scanning and transfer money with a click on your smartphone?
Yes, it's very easy to implement, but I'm intentionally not doing this because it would require a completely different approach on security and responsibility.
I don't want people to store their savings in the pool because it's NOT a bank.

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February 23, 2012, 03:30:27 PM
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Hi, why aren't all pools implementing real accounts (payout AND payin) so that they can act like banks with mobile clients that use QR code scanning and transfer money with a click on your smartphone?

Most pool owners would prefer you get your coins off their servers rather than hold them for you.  You see probably once a month or more some pool/exchange getting "hacked" and losing coins.  While I don't believe any major pools (Slush, Deepbit, BTCGuild, Eligius, ArsBitcoin, EMC) has had ever had their wallet hacked [which is why I still suspect most/all of the "hacked" pools are just thieves], that doesn't mean it can't happen.  Being a major pool comes with the expectation that if something goes wrong, the pool op will fix it out of their own pocket.

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February 23, 2012, 03:34:22 PM
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Hi, why aren't all pools implementing real accounts (payout AND payin) so that they can act like banks with mobile clients that use QR code scanning and transfer money with a click on your smartphone?

Most pool owners would prefer you get your coins off their servers rather than hold them for you.  You see probably once a month or more some pool/exchange getting "hacked" and losing coins.  While I don't believe any major pools (Slush, Deepbit, BTCGuild, Eligius, ArsBitcoin, EMC) has had ever had their wallet hacked [which is why I still suspect most/all of the "hacked" pools are just thieves], that doesn't mean it can't happen.  Being a major pool comes with the expectation that if something goes wrong, the pool op will fix it out of their own pocket.

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February 23, 2012, 11:25:08 PM
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Deepbit operator Tycho has said that he will follow the majority in the P2SH debate. The majority has spoken, over 50% of the hashing power (Deepbit excluded) is supporting BIP 16. Everyone is waiting for his move right now. What is going on?

Unless he co-operates soon, there should be a further awareness campaign regarding the issue at hand, directed at Deepbit users. Going forward with P2SH is a significant step forward for the development of Bitcoin, we can't let one man stall it.

I think it was a smart move from Tycho to not be proactive on this issue but I hope that he comes to his senses now and does the right thing. The other pools have spoken.

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February 23, 2012, 11:28:10 PM
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Deepbit operator Tycho has said that he will follow the majority in the P2SH debate. The majority has spoken, over 50% of the hashing power (Deepbit excluded) is supporting BIP 16. Everyone is waiting for his move right now. What is going on?

Unless he co-operates soon, there should be a further awareness campaign regarding the issue at hand, directed at Deepbit users. Going forward with P2SH is a significant step forward for the development of Bitcoin, we can't let one man stall it.

I think it was a smart move from Tycho to not be proactive on this issue but I hope that he comes to his senses now and does the right thing. The other pools have spoken.
Would you mind linking us to some nice graphs and/or charts to prove that more than 50% of the network already is showing their support?

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February 23, 2012, 11:35:27 PM
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Would you mind linking us to some nice graphs and/or charts to prove that more than 50% of the network already is showing their support?
Approximately 36% of the network is currently voting for P2SH. Deepbit has 34% of the network which means that excluding Deepbit there is a 54.54% support for P2SH.

That is the only sane way of calculating it, asking for over 50% of total hashing power without Deepbit's support is insane and I see little chance of any vote going through in my lifetime if that is required. I assume Tycho didn't mean that when he talked about majority support.

True majority support is behind P2SH, I seriously doubt that people mine at Deepbit because they protest to P2SH. Cheesy

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February 24, 2012, 12:18:24 AM
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Not to mention the p2sh support graph was higher a few days ago than it is currenty, BTC Guild had some technical issues and produced less than half as many blocks as normal in the past two days [not counting today].

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February 24, 2012, 01:08:26 AM
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[Tycho]: BIP16 is waiting for you.  Smiley

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