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[xibeijan]

"HOOO
OOOLD
for the longest time"

Someone should redo this video for Darkcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qooBzE2w

seriously

[AlexGR]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I think what happened is that large and small players bought MRO either as a hedge or as a legitimate contender. However gmaxwell's comments about the problem of monero's team cloning bytecoin and then being unable to do the low-level stuff to improve its problems, made investors lose confidence.

The bytecoin landscape is pretty fucked up for investment. On the one hand you have the 80% premine Bytecoin and on the other hand you have 4 clones of Bytecoin, with Monero being positioned as "first clone". The options are one less appealing than the other.

One of my projected scenarios is that given the technical problems of Bytecoin/Monero etc, and the fact that Bytecoin was quickly trashed by Monero people for the 80% premine and the fact that Bytecoin devs will probably not "forgive" the Monero people for stealing their coin implementation, it might go down like this: Bytecoin devs will dump their BCNs and launch a new coin that is not backward-compatible / fork-upgradeable for Bytecoin and clones. It will probably improve a bit on the anonymity and other aspects like scalability and then be presented as the better solution, thus killing first gen bytecoin + clones.

If that happens, DRK must be ready to compete with an upgraded bytecoin that might have less bloat issues, more anon. features, better user friendliness etc.

[LimLims]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I suspect the recent MRO pump made some of the regular Polo trollbox nuggets good money.  

That fool eizh is going to be quickly regretting his "fuck the supporters, we're now rich!" attitude.

Most coins see a similar spike-->decline-->stabilise pattern when they first hit exchanges. Darkcoin was the same. Not much value in trash-talking the competition for pretty standard market behaviour.

[CryptoPleb]

"HOOO
OOOLD
for the longest time"

Someone should redo this video for Darkcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1qooBzE2w

seriously

lol or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1NupxasQWs

[Polycoin]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I think what happened is that large and small players bought MRO either as a hedge or as a legitimate contender. However gmaxwell's comments about the problem of monero's team cloning bytecoin and then being unable to do the low-level stuff to improve its problems, made investors lose confidence.

The bytecoin landscape is pretty fucked up for investment. On the one hand you have the 80% premine Bytecoin and on the other hand you have 4 clones of Bytecoin, with Monero being positioned as "first clone". The options are competing in lack of appeal.

One of my projected scenarios is that given the technical problems of Bytecoin/Monero etc, and the fact that Bytecoin was quickly trashed by Monero people for the 80% premine and the fact that Bytecoin devs will probably not "forgive" the Monero people for stealing their coin implementation, it might go down like this: Bytecoin devs will dump their BCNs and launch a new coin that is not backward-compatible / fork-upgradeable for Bytecoin and clones. It will probably improve a bit on the anonymity and other aspects like scalability and then be presented as the better solution, thus killing first gen bytecoin + clones.

If that happens, DRK must be ready to compete with an upgraded bytecoin.

I was actually thinking something similar to this. Bytecoin devs might release a new "Bytecoin" etc, which would practically leave all the original Bytecoin clones such as Monero, HoneyPenny, etc, in the dust.

I doubt the Bytecoin dev's have the ability to do so because bytecoin's code was really messy and a lot of things had to be fixed according to Tacotime.

Still, Dark with Masternodes, Ring Signatures, and I2P = perfect anonymity.

[LimLims]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I think what happened is that large and small players bought MRO either as a hedge or as a legitimate contender. However gmaxwell's comments about the problem of monero's team cloning bytecoin and then being unable to do the low-level stuff to improve its problems, made investors lose confidence.

The bytecoin landscape is pretty fucked up for investment. On the one hand you have the 80% premine Bytecoin and on the other hand you have 4 clones of Bytecoin, with Monero being positioned as "first clone". The options are one less appealing than the other.

One of my projected scenarios is that given the technical problems of Bytecoin/Monero etc, and the fact that Bytecoin was quickly trashed by Monero people for the 80% premine and the fact that Bytecoin devs will probably not "forgive" the Monero people for stealing their coin implementation, it might go down like this: Bytecoin devs will dump their BCNs and launch a new coin that is not backward-compatible / fork-upgradeable for Bytecoin and clones. It will probably improve a bit on the anonymity and other aspects like scalability and then be presented as the better solution, thus killing first gen bytecoin + clones.

If that happens, DRK must be ready to compete with an upgraded bytecoin.

Aren't Cryptonote the dev group behind bytecoin's codebase?

In any case, I think we can fully expect a raft of cryptonote-based alts with various improvements, some of which will shape up to be Darkcoin's main competitors. It's worth keeping close tabs on MRO and the rest. I suspect it won't be the bytecoin devs themselves who create the killer cryptonote coin, as they seem to lack any marketing sense whatsoever.

[slapper]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I think what happened is that large and small players bought MRO either as a hedge or as a legitimate contender. However gmaxwell's comments about the problem of monero's team cloning bytecoin and then being unable to do the low-level stuff to improve its problems, made investors lose confidence.

The bytecoin landscape is pretty fucked up for investment. On the one hand you have the 80% premine Bytecoin and on the other hand you have 4 clones of Bytecoin, with Monero being positioned as "first clone". The options are one less appealing than the other.

One of my projected scenarios is that given the technical problems of Bytecoin/Monero etc, and the fact that Bytecoin was quickly trashed by Monero people for the 80% premine and the fact that Bytecoin devs will probably not "forgive" the Monero people for stealing their coin implementation, it might go down like this: Bytecoin devs will dump their BCNs and launch a new coin that is not backward-compatible / fork-upgradeable for Bytecoin and clones. It will probably improve a bit on the anonymity and other aspects like scalability and then be presented as the better solution, thus killing first gen bytecoin + clones.

If that happens, DRK must be ready to compete with an upgraded bytecoin that might have less bloat issues, more anon. features, better user friendliness etc.

Did you read gmax's comments about coinjoin and how everything being done here is a "sales pitch". I wouldn't give too much focus on one persons take on this. He probably dislikes DRK even more and pointed towards "Quazarcoin" as being fairly launched and didn't even notice that Monero was launched a month ago   (rightttt).

Quazarcoin might be the first example of what I'd like to call AngryMined. The history of that launch cracked me up.

[AlexGR]

Aren't Cryptonote the dev group behind bytecoin's codebase?

It's hazy (the relation between cryptonote devs / bytecoin devs).

In any case, I think we can fully expect a raft of cryptonote-based alts with various improvements, some of which will shape up to be Darkcoin's main competitors. It's worth keeping close tabs on MRO and the rest. I suspect it won't be the bytecoin devs themselves who create the killer cryptonote coin, as they seem to lack any marketing sense whatsoever.

I'd take the real devs over the cloners for a bytecoin 2.0 upgraded coin. Cloners would probably be best for fixing the peripherals (gui's, logos, branding, etc).

Did you read gmax's comments about coinjoin and how everything being done here is a "sales pitch".

I like skepticism but Darkcoin isn't even marketing or selling itself. It attracts attention by virtue of its characteristics. Always has, since the start.

[thelonecrouton]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I suspect the recent MRO pump made some of the regular Polo trollbox nuggets good money.  

That fool eizh is going to be quickly regretting his "fuck the supporters, we're now rich!" attitude.

Most coins see a similar spike-->decline-->stabilise pattern when they first hit exchanges. Darkcoin was the same. Not much value in trash-talking the competition for pretty standard market behaviour.

I was trash talking eizh because he's an asshole: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589522.msg6824785#msg6824785

[coins101]

The poloniex price for Dark is looking pretty hot. MRO down, DRK up. Now we know why MRO was up recently. People sold DRK to jump on the new anonymity band wagon - MRO just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

Innovation? My arse. Lucky timing.

I suspect the recent MRO pump made some of the regular Polo trollbox nuggets good money.  

That fool eizh is going to be quickly regretting his "fuck the supporters, we're now rich!" attitude.

Most coins see a similar spike-->decline-->stabilise pattern when they first hit exchanges. Darkcoin was the same. Not much value in trash-talking the competition for pretty standard market behaviour.

I have no issues with the MRO community. They are suffering a few trolls too.

The day MRO hit poloniex, from the price chart, it was dumped very heavily. It was then picked up by the trollbox as a big pump when DRK started a price rally. I watched yesterday as it got dumped for bytecoin, or something, which was added. that told me the price rise was pure speculation levered off darkcoin rise.

[Scriptiee]

I would not recommend downloading until it is open sourced and checked for malicious entries of any kind

Though it is interesting if true, however, looking at the thread there are mixed results.

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-x11-x11-darkcoin-gpu-miner-40-faster-than-sph-sgminer.316575/

[rickraw]

Woo hoo my Masternode is up and flag 1 on poolhash.org and darkcoin.io. Can't wait for the weekend to see how the Masternode network works with real payments.

[ErrorId]

I would not recommend downloading until it is open sourced and checked for malicious entries of any kind

Though it is interesting if true, however, looking at the thread there are mixed results.

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-x11-x11-darkcoin-gpu-miner-40-faster-than-sph-sgminer.316575/

Read 40% people, somehow I got 40 times into my head and my blood pressure spiked a little.

[Brilliantrocket]

The sell walls around .0162-.01625 that were up earlier today on Cryptsy are nearly gone. There wasn't even a price decline, very steady today.

[coins101]

The sell walls around .00162-.001625 that were up earlier today on Cryptsy are nearly gone. There wasn't even a price decline, very steady today.

still relatively low volume. Tomorrow things will pick-up. The weekend will go nuts.

[flippo]

Is there an API for darkcoin blockchain, so I could get a wallet balance from the address?

Guys, is there an API for balance?

[Coindacioius]

People discussing Darkcoin in Monero thread.

People discussing Monero in Darkcoin thread.

Interesting.

[rickraw]

What if people who want a MN have already bought? Will we see a weekend run? If someone wanted a MN wouldn't they be buying now instead of the weekend when/if price rises?  I suppose if MN payments start working as planned people will see the value and may rush to buy.

[thelonecrouton]

The sell walls around .00162-.001625 that were up earlier today on Cryptsy are nearly gone. There wasn't even a price decline, very steady today.

still relatively low volume. Tomorrow things will pick-up. The weekend will go nuts.

I was hoping for one last dip in the next 48hrs but I may just have to suck it up and pay one tenth of what it's worth.

[rickraw]

The sell walls around .00162-.001625 that were up earlier today on Cryptsy are nearly gone. There wasn't even a price decline, very steady today.

still relatively low volume. Tomorrow things will pick-up. The weekend will go nuts.

I was hoping for one last dip in the next 48hrs but I may just have to suck it up and pay one tenth of what it's worth.

Me too, my funds should be clearing in ~18 hours then I will be buying at market price, hopefully during a small dip before launch.