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July 19, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
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Technical question if I may, don't laugh I'm a Linux n00b.

My server says DarkCoin Started Successfully, however when I do ./darkcoind masternode list | grep (My MN IP address) I get nothing back.

I'm going down the VPS route, this is a new instance that I generated from an existing backup of another instance.

Do I need to open port 9999?

How do I do that in Linux?
stop daemon. Generate new privkey for MN. Change privkey and external ip in darkcoin.conf. Restart Daemon and MN.

Thanks  Cheesy

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July 19, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
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From discussion of the newly-proposed NY law for crypto:

"One particularly controversial aspect of the law appears to ban the creation of any new cryptocurrency by an unlicensed entity. This would not only put a stop to virtual currency innovation (other Bitcoin-like monies include Litecoin, Peercoin, and the mostly satirical Dogecoin) but could theoretically put Bitcoin’s anonymous creator, known by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, in danger of prosecution if he failed to apply for a BitLicense." (Plenty more. It's not pretty)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699600.msg7915278#msg7915278

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July 19, 2014, 12:25:36 PM
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I believe if wafflepool, for his x11 miners, pays out in DRK instead of BTC would help price stability.

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July 19, 2014, 12:48:29 PM
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On mintpal there was a buy of 5.6 BTC. There was no such big sell order. How the fuck was that buy possible without processing several sell orders?

Well it did process several sell orders. I mean it should, why are you stating that it didn't?

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July 19, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
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From discussion of the newly-proposed NY law for crypto:

"One particularly controversial aspect of the law appears to ban the creation of any new cryptocurrency by an unlicensed entity. This would not only put a stop to virtual currency innovation (other Bitcoin-like monies include Litecoin, Peercoin, and the mostly satirical Dogecoin) but could theoretically put Bitcoin’s anonymous creator, known by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, in danger of prosecution if he failed to apply for a BitLicense." (Plenty more. It's not pretty)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699600.msg7915278#msg7915278

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I think there is sufficient room for interpretation around this aspect to make the regulations unhelpful.

The section that is relevant is

section 200.2

(n) Virtual Currency Business Activity means the conduct of any one of the following types of activities
involving New York or a New York Resident:

(1) receiving Virtual Currency for transmission or transmitting the same;
(2) securing, storing, holding, or maintaining custody or control of Virtual Currency on behalf of others;
(3) buying and selling Virtual Currency as a customer business;
(4) performing retail conversion services, including the conversion or exchange of Fiat Currency or
other value into Virtual Currency, the conversion or exchange of Virtual Currency into Fiat Currency or other
value, or the conversion or exchange of one form of Virtual Currency into another form of Virtual Currency; or
(5) controlling, administering, or issuing a Virtual Currency.

If the creators or the administrators carry out their 'conduct' in New York or involve a NY resident, then it is clear cut that issuing or administrating code, e.g. uploading crypto code to github for distribution, would require registration as a business.

The difficulties are:

1. What is the business that a coin issuer or administrator conducts, especially if they do their work for free?
2. Do individual volunteers have to register as individual businesses?
3. What if you issue a coin in Japan, yet someone living in NY contributes a few lines of code?

What is very unclear is whether someone living in Arizona would be considered as requiring registration in NY as a business if someone in NY acting as a consumer simply uses a currency. I doubt it.  Terms of reference in this section talk of 'conduct' i.e. carrying out activity relative to 'controlling, administering or issuing.'

Regulatory licences for any type of existing activities typically target a control test. They try to make businesses disclose sufficient information to identify those who ultimately might indirectly control a business, e.g significant shareholders (who may not be employees or officers; they may be acting through other businesses or from overseas).

Those that release a coin or contribute code to it might be consider as having some control. That remains true until a coin becomes sufficiently decentralised that new code releases could be forked and rejected by a sufficient number of clients.

How does this impact on DRK? It doesn't. It might if these regulations were adopted by Arizona or by the Federal government.

Is Satoshi under threat? Not likely. He doesn't control Bitcoin. However, if the regulations extended their definition of control to include those with a significant holding of a virtual currency, that could be challenged in the courts, but it is sufficiently grey that it could go either way.

Do significant holders of the global gold or diamond reserves have to disclose who they are? If someone accumulated significant cash and stored it under their house, would they need to disclose themselves?

With Darkcoin going anon, how can anyone prove how much eCash a DRK holder has? They can't. Whereas with Bitcoin they can. That is a good enough reason to go DRK as a hedge as anyone with any significant amounts of Bitcoin or Litecoin really needs.

Like I said before:

* You sold your eCash, when you should have hodl your eCash. ha ha.

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July 19, 2014, 01:31:48 PM
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Nice analysis, coins101. Murky stuff. My guess is that their intent is "death by a thousand cuts" or lilliputian tethers. I hope crypto, dark especially, can definitively break free from it all.
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July 19, 2014, 01:32:39 PM
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When will coinmarketcap create a better filter algorithm to prevent this from happening?

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July 19, 2014, 01:56:48 PM
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Nice analysis, coins101. Murky stuff. My guess is that their intent is "death by a thousand cuts" or lilliputian tethers. I hope crypto, dark especially, can definitively break free from it all.


If I were Satoshi, I would be getting a little nervous now.

Big businesses that are threatened by Bitcoin will start to look at these types of regulations as a tool to break Bitcoin or diminish its impact by going after the creator. And not because Satoshi can do anything to stop Bitcoin. It would purley be a strike at the heart of Bitcoin.

The online gaming industry suffered when laws were passed through the back door to ban it in the US. Banned sufficiently long enough for the vested interests to find a way to control online gaming.

The notion that you can't find Satoshi is not sustainable if legislative tools are introduced that others can press to enforce through the Federal government. Once Satoshi gets on the Fed most wanted list, its just a matter of time.

I hope it doesn't happen, but you will start to see the wheels put in motion once regulations start to spread and get updated.

The crypto world should create a legal defense fund for the first few regulations test cases that will no doubt be fast tracked at the first available opportunity.

I don't think its totally bearish for crypto, quite the opposite. I just don't think regulations will be missed as an opportunity to hold back its growth.
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July 19, 2014, 02:55:40 PM
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When will coinmarketcap create a better filter algorithm to prevent this from happening?

LOL

stop using coinmarketcap already.

http://www.coingecko.com/
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July 19, 2014, 03:07:40 PM
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Selling 黑暗币.com (darkcoin.com)

Chinese version
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July 19, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
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Selling 黑暗币.com (darkcoin.com)

Chinese version

take that to china market Tongue why would we need .com when .io is cooler Cheesy

RXC Crypto.ba Decentralized solutions!
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July 19, 2014, 04:22:10 PM
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From discussion of the newly-proposed NY law for crypto:

"One particularly controversial aspect of the law appears to ban the creation of any new cryptocurrency by an unlicensed entity. This would not only put a stop to virtual currency innovation (other Bitcoin-like monies include Litecoin, Peercoin, and the mostly satirical Dogecoin) but could theoretically put Bitcoin’s anonymous creator, known by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, in danger of prosecution if he failed to apply for a BitLicense." (Plenty more. It's not pretty)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699600.msg7915278#msg7915278

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US the so called land of the free.
They can only cry when the developer is outside the US. This should not have any implications on DRK. What they are actually trying to do is make you need a license to create software. Should I get a license before I paint a picture of my cat too?

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darkcoinproject created tag v0.9.12.0 at darkcoinproject/darkcoin  6 minutes ago

maybe be tod...
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July 19, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
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Should I get a license before I paint a picture of my cat too?

Heh. Don't give them ideas.    Wink
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July 19, 2014, 04:36:23 PM
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From discussion of the newly-proposed NY law for crypto:

"One particularly controversial aspect of the law appears to ban the creation of any new cryptocurrency by an unlicensed entity. This would not only put a stop to virtual currency innovation (other Bitcoin-like monies include Litecoin, Peercoin, and the mostly satirical Dogecoin) but could theoretically put Bitcoin’s anonymous creator, known by the name Satoshi Nakamoto, in danger of prosecution if he failed to apply for a BitLicense." (Plenty more. It's not pretty)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699600.msg7915278#msg7915278

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None, these useless parasites can go and hang themselves.  Grin
That's just vulgar and uncalled for... I normally don't have a problem with name-calling, but insulting a parasite by comparing it to a politician is way over the line.

I demand that you apologize to all parasites.

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July 19, 2014, 04:42:44 PM
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Nice one. I just sent you 1DRK to support your work.  I luv threesomes, maybe next you can do a dude with a Darkcoin tshirt and a blond and a brunette, so we can all picture ourselves after RC4. Thank you.  Grin
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Nice one. I just sent you 1DRK to support your work.  I luv threesomes, maybe next you can do a dude with a Darkcoin tshirt and a blond and a brunette, so we can all picture ourselves after RC4. Thank you.  Grin

Thanks a lot, dude,...
look again... in the meantime I updated the pic.

To this:



PS:
I luv threesomes, maybe next you can do a dude with a Darkcoin tshirt and a blond and a brunette, so we can all picture ourselves after RC4. Thank you.  Grin
I will definitely do that in one of the next GIFs.

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July 19, 2014, 04:58:23 PM
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can the blonde pretty please explain it to me once more ? eh, upclose Smiley



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July 19, 2014, 05:07:56 PM
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I've earmaked 10% of my MN profits for good causes, I like the idea of supporting p2pool in some way. In fact I would be perfectly happy for blocks submitted by p2pool to pay reduced MN fees vs. regular pools.

Decentralisation is crucial to everything, it's the fundamental underpinning of cryptocurrencies.

What if.....MNs contributed their income to an LLC and the MN owners were given stock. We could then float the MNs onto the NASDAQ.

eCash and SnapChat type encrypted messaging, tied to a payment platform - all on the NASDAQ under the ticker DRK.

$50bn easy.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2695923/Is-Snapchat-taking-PAYPAL-Startup-files-trademarks-process-transactions-seeks-way-make-money-app.html

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