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Author Topic: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N][X11] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com  (Read 465701 times)
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March 14, 2014, 05:56:18 PM
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           I think one pool should not mine on another pool. If ghash.io give more reward now is to attract new clients, not to give proffit to other pools.  It is like I make a new business, I give free drinks and food for new clients, and someone comes, take all food and go to sell it to take profit.
   Imagine now clevermining has a perfect scrypt and makes a lot of money, then wafflepool mine there to get that profit.

         Not all is about to get any profit in any way.  We should keep some moral rules.
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March 14, 2014, 05:59:08 PM
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I wonder if it would be possible to reverse the confirmed and unconfirmed?  I know that the current looks much nicer but it can give an incorrect view of when a payment could be possible - stacking the confirmed on top of the unconfirmed hides the point at which you actually cross the payment threshold.  If the stack was the other way around the lower line (confirmed) would cross the threshold line when you could actually be paid.  This would still show the "total" but might not be as pretty.

Great job by the way Smiley

Miles

Good idea. I'll definitely take a look at it and give it a shot. :-)
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March 14, 2014, 06:49:46 PM
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The multiplier switch on Ghash just lowered to 25GH/s!
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March 14, 2014, 06:50:08 PM
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They changed it again.
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Pool Speed	Reward multiplier
0 – 25 GH/s x2
25 – 60 GH/s x1.25
60+ GH/s x1
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March 14, 2014, 06:58:12 PM
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cex.io and all that bullshit what comes with it lol.  Grin
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March 14, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
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Thanks for the hard work MisterWil, sent a couple of dollars your way.
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March 14, 2014, 07:04:47 PM
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cex.io and all that bullshit what comes with it lol.  Grin

  I completely understand them,  they just want new clients and offer more reward.  They dont want all pools go there to get their money. Is there someone who cant understand something as easy as this one?.  I would do exactly the same.

        If wafflepool tomorrow give extra % to new clients, and all pools come to mine here to get his money, he will do ALL to stop them, right?


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March 14, 2014, 07:06:38 PM
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OMG, Ghash/CEX.io is funny. What a assholes. Is 40GH costing them too much money ?!

Changing rules every time you don't like them is not a good promo of you're website Tongue

Greets
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March 14, 2014, 07:08:45 PM
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With all this bullshit now ghash.io really have to pay me twice if they want me to mine there.

"doubled rewards"
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March 14, 2014, 07:18:33 PM
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double rewards my ass fuck that place, never going to use them for anything that is for sure
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March 14, 2014, 07:21:27 PM
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OMG, Ghash/CEX.io is funny. What a assholes. Is 40GH costing them too much money ?!

Changing rules every time you don't like them is not a good promo of you're website Tongue

Greets

So true !
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March 14, 2014, 07:21:42 PM
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Two choices left now: pull out or open the floodgates...doesn't make sense to just sit at 40 any more.  I *personally* would prefer wafflepool pull out so my measly 1.7mh/s can get its double LTC payout but I somehow don't think that's likely to happen;)
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March 14, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
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Double payouts or not, it's not a bad pool... I like real-time stats, layout - as good pool as any (at least for LTC).
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March 14, 2014, 07:36:31 PM
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Poolwaffle,

Is it still profitable to get Ghash in? 10% rejects and unsecure payout. Isn't it a bit risky now for only 10% or something Wink. Yeah 125 * 90 = 112,5 procent. And maybe it's even less.

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March 14, 2014, 07:44:07 PM
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cex.io and all that bullshit what comes with it lol.  Grin

  I completely understand them,  they just want new clients and offer more reward.  They dont want all pools go there to get their money. Is there someone who cant understand something as easy as this one?.  I would do exactly the same.

        If wafflepool tomorrow give extra % to new clients, and all pools come to mine here to get his money, he will do ALL to stop them, right?




you don't post an ad for a sale for 50% off and when people enter the store tell them "oh fuck you, its actually 25% off".  unless you are scummy ass car dealer of course.  and that's what this feels like.  fuckem

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March 14, 2014, 07:50:10 PM
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cex.io and all that bullshit what comes with it lol.  Grin

  I completely understand them,  they just want new clients and offer more reward.  They dont want all pools go there to get their money. Is there someone who cant understand something as easy as this one?.  I would do exactly the same.

        If wafflepool tomorrow give extra % to new clients, and all pools come to mine here to get his money, he will do ALL to stop them, right?




you don't post an ad for a sale for 50% off and when people enter the store tell them "oh fuck you, its actually 25% off".  unless you are scummy ass car dealer of course.  and that's what this feels like.  fuckem

They're giving away free money -- a fair amount of it.  On the one hand they shouldn't be surprised that people take as much as possible, so boo on them for not anticipating this.  On the other hand I can't really hold it against them for not wanting to pay out huge sums to a pool that will 100% guaranteed move away once the offer is done.  They could have just pulled the offer, or blocked wafflepool's IP address, but it seems like they are trying to manage the situation without resorting to that, so I've got to give them some kudos.

And to someone's previous point, the site is nice, I still have a more positive impression of ghash.io than I did when this thing started (only heard of them in re 50%+1 attack on bitcoin and double-spending attacks).
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March 14, 2014, 07:55:19 PM
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If we wanted to be dicks, we could just keep switching on and off them like every 30 minutes or so (and change up the timing so they can't predict it.) Every time we jam 40 gh up their ass, a ton of miners will bail on them, then when we leave others will come back, and this will continue until people get frustrated and say f this, and go mine somewhere else. We'd essentially rape them into oblivion the way multipools do to new coins with lucrative profit margins.
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March 14, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
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you don't post an ad for a sale for 50% off and when people enter the store tell them "oh fuck you, its actually 25% off".  unless you are scummy ass car dealer of course.  and that's what this feels like.  fuckem

They're giving away free money -- a fair amount of it.  On the one hand they shouldn't be surprised that people take as much as possible, so boo on them for not anticipating this.  On the other hand I can't really hold it against them for not wanting to pay out huge sums to a pool that will 100% guaranteed move away once the offer is done.  They could have just pulled the offer, or blocked wafflepool's IP address, but it seems like they are trying to manage the situation without resorting to that, so I've got to give them some kudos.

And to someone's previous point, the site is nice, I still have a more positive impression of ghash.io than I did when this thing started (only heard of them in re 50%+1 attack on bitcoin and double-spending attacks).
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they are smart kids.  they knew this was going to happen.  it worked, they got a lot of advertising out of this.  but the initial promise wasn't delivered.  that to me is a bullshit move, and very hard to respect.  let say waffles decided to raise the fee without telling anyone, but just posting it on the site somewhere to "cover more server costs because i didnt expect such traffic".  it would be shady, simple as that.

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March 14, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
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they are smart kids.  they knew this was going to happen.  it worked, they got a lot of advertising out of this.  but the initial promise wasn't delivered.  that to me is a bullshit move, and very hard to respect.  let say waffles decided to raise the fee without telling anyone, but just posting it on the site somewhere to "cover more server costs because i didnt expect such traffic".  it would be shady, simple as that.

Yep, as shitty as it is to pull the deal (or at least, just keep tweaking it), they're going to have a very large LTC pool at the end of it.  Their frontend is great, I've used them before, and they're definitely a decent pool.  That said, it sucks to be dicked around Smiley

When they switched the 40GHs -> 25GHs (maybe 45-60min ago?) I turned off our proxying.  At 2x is pretty worth (if they drop that low, we can talk about it again), at 1.25x the profit is only _marginally_ better than what we do when you account for rejects and the headache of constantly turning on/off, and trying to figure out the payment situation.  Essentially the slight bump in profit (a few percent) isn't worth the headache to deal with having to constantly watch it (and run a shitty proxy that was built in 3 hours on no sleep!)

So for now, we're back to normal mining.  I'll keep my eye on it here and there and see if it bumps to 2x, but I'm guessing its unlikely Smiley
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March 14, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
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Hi!
Whats the current average of BTC per MH?

LPC
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