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February 14, 2020, 05:24:53 AM
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In international cricket, the spinners are not lasting much now. Even in India, spinners such as Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal are not performing well against the good teams. This is the problem in having a lot of technological advance in cricket. Super-slow motion footage is available, which allows the batsmen to study the bowling action of various spinners and thereby identify their variations.
The only reason i see  is that the ground is getting smaller and it is really hard to control the flow of runs with the rules to restrict fielders outside the circle to favor the batsman and as you said with all the video footage and  the technology we have it is easier to learn their skill set and variations and if the bowler did not change according to that then he will find it hard to cope up with the modern game.

I do not think spinners can be effective in T20 matches as they need an old ball to spin and a dusty picth. It can be only achieved in a test cricket or in the later part of one day cricket.

The above mentioned tech might be beneficial for the batsman for few overs but things are always  different when you are actually playing on the field.

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February 14, 2020, 07:47:36 AM
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The only reason i see  is that the ground is getting smaller and it is really hard to control the flow of runs with the rules to restrict fielders outside the circle to favor the batsman and as you said with all the video footage and  the technology we have it is easier to learn their skill set and variations and if the bowler did not change according to that then he will find it hard to cope up with the modern game.

I do not think spinners can be effective in T20 matches as they need an old ball to spin and a dusty picth. It can be only achieved in a test cricket or later in the later part of once day cricket.

The above mentioned tech might be beneficial for the batsman for few overs but things are always  different when you are actually playing on the field.

Have to agree with vishnu and eaLiTy here. Technology, Short boundaries, Power play are important factors and all of them favor the batsmen in modern cricket. Majority of finger spinners and  off break spinners are pretty much useless in limited over cricket but wrist spinners such as Mujib, Rashid khan,Kuldeep, Chahal, Aadil Rashid, Zampa are still very handy and they can dominate the game if boundaries gets slightly bigger let's say 70- 75m 

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February 14, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
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they can dominate the game if boundaries gets slightly bigger let's say 70- 75m 
The boundaries should be minimum 75m if not even the miss hits would go over the rope, earlier if there is a top edge a batsman would loos their wicket but now a days a top edge will go over the rope for six and for the spinners even if you miss the line of the ball and turn you could score a six runs if you put enough power and we are seeing the transition with the way the batsman approaches the game especially for T20, they just like to power the ball out of the ground and we have a few classic players and ten years from now it will be hard to find Test caliber batsman if it continue like this.

Today we have South Africa and England and England will look to win the match to level the series after messing up the first T20, hopefully it will be another entertaining match.
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Today we have South Africa and England and England will look to win the match to level the series after messing up the first T20, hopefully it will be another entertaining match.
South Africa won the toss and elected to bat, England already lost a wicket and a spinners started the over with Fortuin and he already dropped a catch in his own bowling and the edges are flying to the boundary and if South Africa could pick up some quick wickets then they can control the innings if not England will play with the intention to win the match and level the series.
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February 14, 2020, 05:23:11 PM
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Kingsmead used to be one of the most pace-friendly surfaces, but I don't know how whether that has changed recently or not. If it still supports the pace bowlers, then any total above 160 should be enough for England. They have already crossed that score (162/5 after 17.2 overs) and it is going to be an uphill task for the South African batsmen. 
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February 14, 2020, 05:25:53 PM
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South Africa was able to pick up the England wickets but they were not able to control the England batsman to score freely and the strike rate is over 8 till now and Ben Stokes still in the crease and they can put up a good total in this match and South Africa is confident about chasing anything below 170 runs and so is the reason they got the toss and elected to field as they are confident on chasing.
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February 14, 2020, 05:26:51 PM
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Kingsmead used to be one of the most pace-friendly surfaces, but I don't know how whether that has changed recently or not. If it still supports the pace bowlers, then any total above 160 should be enough for England. They have already crossed that score (162/5 after 17.2 overs) and it is going to be an uphill task for the South African batsmen. 

Stokes and Ali are batting and if they play full 20 overs or any one stays till end then we can see England crossing 200+ runs and it will be a big chase for SA. Bairstow innings was also at a quick pace though he got out at 35 in 17 balls .

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February 14, 2020, 05:31:13 PM
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Stokes and Ali are batting and if they play full 20 overs or any one stays till end then we can see England crossing 200+ runs and it will be a big chase for SA. Bairstow innings was also at a quick pace though he got out at 35 in 17 balls .
Moeen Ali changed the match altogether by smashing 39 runs in just 11 balls and unfortunately he got out looking to clear the ropes once again and Ben Stokes is still in the crease and now 200 is a real possibility and England need to put over 200 runs to put pressure back to South Africa and level the series and i am expecting England could level the series as they will be determined to win this match.
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February 14, 2020, 05:40:56 PM
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Moeen Ali changed the match altogether by smashing 39 runs in just 11 balls and unfortunately he got out looking to clear the ropes once again and Ben Stokes is still in the crease and now 200 is a real possibility and England need to put over 200 runs to put pressure back to South Africa and level the series and i am expecting England could level the series as they will be determined to win this match.

LOL... 15 runs from the final over bowled by Ngidi and they finish at 204/7. It is going to be a very difficult task for South Africa, and they need more than 10 runs per over in a pace-friendly track against some of the best fast bowlers in the world. For South Africa, the pacers were very expensive. Hendricks went for 45 from 3, Ngidi 48 from 4 and Phehlukwayo 47 from 4. Only Pretorius bowled tightly, conceding just 17 from his three.
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February 14, 2020, 06:29:06 PM
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Quinton de Kock is taking on the England bowlers and he scored his fastest half century in just 18 balls and have already smashed seven sixes and they had a really great opening partnership and if they can maintain that and not loose much wickets then they will be able to chase the score and David Miller must stay till the end for them to chase this score. Chasing a score above 200 runs is always difficult but with the flying start they got they can win the match, either way it will be a close match.
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February 14, 2020, 07:23:54 PM
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Quinton de Kock is taking on the England bowlers and he scored his fastest half century in just 18 balls and have already smashed seven sixes and they had a really great opening partnership and if they can maintain that and not loose much wickets then they will be able to chase the score and David Miller must stay till the end for them to chase this score. Chasing a score above 200 runs is always difficult but with the flying start they got they can win the match, either way it will be a close match.

SA has a chance though the asking rate is climbing and require 47 runs in 20 balls and 6 wickets in hand . Some one has to play quickly and get 20 runs in a over which would bring the asking rate down and also the runs and ball difference would reduce .

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February 14, 2020, 08:00:39 PM
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Quinton de Kock is taking on the England bowlers and he scored his fastest half century in just 18 balls and have already smashed seven sixes and they had a really great opening partnership and if they can maintain that and not loose much wickets then they will be able to chase the score and David Miller must stay till the end for them to chase this score. Chasing a score above 200 runs is always difficult but with the flying start they got they can win the match, either way it will be a close match.

SA has a chance though the asking rate is climbing and require 47 runs in 20 balls and 6 wickets in hand . Some one has to play quickly and get 20 runs in a over which would bring the asking rate down and also the runs and ball difference would reduce .
What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
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February 14, 2020, 09:01:53 PM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.
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February 14, 2020, 11:15:58 PM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.

I agree, these are the series us cricket fans like to see. Both teams playing close matches and the game coming right down to the last few balls. This is what makes T20 cricket enjoyable to watch when the games are close like the two games we have seen so far between these two teams. We are in for another great match to see which team wins the series. The upcoming series between SA and Australia will hopefully be the same as this series, close fought matches.

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February 14, 2020, 11:36:04 PM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.

I agree, these are the series us cricket fans like to see. Both teams playing close matches and the game coming right down to the last few balls. This is what makes T20 cricket enjoyable to watch when the games are close like the two games we have seen so far between these two teams. We are in for another great match to see which team wins the series. The upcoming series between SA and Australia will hopefully be the same as this series, close fought matches.
First two matches of series have really amazing end first match South Africa won on last ball by 1 run and second match England won on last ball by 2 runs few days back we have few matches in super over its really going to be amazing matches in future and peoples going to love cricket as they was in love few years back.
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February 14, 2020, 11:47:21 PM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.

I agree, these are the series us cricket fans like to see. Both teams playing close matches and the game coming right down to the last few balls. This is what makes T20 cricket enjoyable to watch when the games are close like the two games we have seen so far between these two teams. We are in for another great match to see which team wins the series. The upcoming series between SA and Australia will hopefully be the same as this series, close fought matches.
First two matches of series have really amazing end first match South Africa won on last ball by 1 run and second match England won on last ball by 2 runs few days back we have few matches in super over its really going to be amazing matches in future and peoples going to love cricket as they was in love few years back.

I think that what we are starting to see now is that teams are very competitive as players gain more experience playing this format of the game. There is no one or two dominate T20 teams as even the lower ranked teams are now playing a lot better which is good for cricket and I think T20 will only become more competitive between all the teams with one easy way to predict which team will win like we see a lot in test match cricket.

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February 14, 2020, 11:55:43 PM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.

South Africa should've won this one; Van Der Dussen should've completed the game that he started. It's good that he scored fast and played nice cricket, but it's all useless if he can't finish it and tries to take a double at the time of over-finish. He should've played more sensibly and should've succeeded in winning it for SA. It was a nice match overall but I'm a bit hurt, as Dussen is one of my favorite players and I wasn't expecting him to be this fool at the very end of the game. Roll Eyes
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February 15, 2020, 12:18:02 AM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.

South Africa should've won this one; Van Der Dussen should've completed the game that he started. It's good that he scored fast and played nice cricket, but it's all useless if he can't finish it and tries to take a double at the time of over-finish. He should've played more sensibly and should've succeeded in winning it for SA. It was a nice match overall but I'm a bit hurt, as Dussen is one of my favorite players and I wasn't expecting him to be this fool at the very end of the game. Roll Eyes
Van Der Dussen is very exciting player but relatively he is new in International cricket just because of this lack of experience but last over was full of entertainment as happen in last match where Ngidi done great job in this match first four balls already turn match in South African way but last two balls again change things.
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February 15, 2020, 05:14:39 AM
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What a series and what a end of second twenty/20 match England won by just 2 runs as Curran done good job in last 3 balls even his first 3.5 overs cost him 43 runs but last three balls completely change all things for England Love this format and game between these quality teams now third and final match is going to be more excited.
It was a wonderful match and England was able to play the same game South Africa played against them in the first match. Curran bowled the last over and he was able to hold on to the total and even with two wickets in the last over they were able to win the match and with the win the series is leveled and the final game determines the champion.

South Africa should've won this one; Van Der Dussen should've completed the game that he started. It's good that he scored fast and played nice cricket, but it's all useless if he can't finish it and tries to take a double at the time of over-finish. He should've played more sensibly and should've succeeded in winning it for SA. It was a nice match overall but I'm a bit hurt, as Dussen is one of my favorite players and I wasn't expecting him to be this fool at the very end of the game. Roll Eyes
Van Der Dussen is very exciting player but relatively he is new in International cricket just because of this lack of experience but last over was full of entertainment as happen in last match where Ngidi done great job in this match first four balls already turn match in South African way but last two balls again change things.


What a match we had witnessed and really Dussen and Pretorius almost took the match on their side but just fell short by 2 runs. They played some fantastic cricketing shots and helped SA to narrow the ball and runs difference but in the end England manage to win the match by 2 runs. Moeen Ali was named Man of the match for his fast paced innings of 39 in just 11 balls which actually helped England to cross 200+ runs.

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February 15, 2020, 07:49:23 AM
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A lot of the users are commenting that South Africa could have won the match. In my opinion, England deserved it more as they played as a team. South Africa was heavily dependent on individual performances by a few players. And in a match where the required run rate was almost 11 runs per over, the South African opener scored 31 from 29 balls and that was the main reason for their defeat.
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