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Hyderabad is not completely free from the pandemic, but it seems to be one of the better options right now. Tier 3 cities such as Goa and Trivandrum lack multiple stadiums, where dozens of matches can be played on a continuous basis. However, from the article posted by Huanebu, it looks as if BCCI wants the ICC to cancel the T20 World Cup. So what is the conclusion? Both these tournaments can't go ahead this year? Zero chance?
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May 21, 2020, 01:32:03 PM |
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Hyderabad is not completely free from the pandemic, but it seems to be one of the better options right now. Tier 3 cities such as Goa and Trivandrum lack multiple stadiums, where dozens of matches can be played on a continuous basis. However, from the article posted by Huanebu, it looks as if BCCI wants the ICC to cancel the T20 World Cup. So what is the conclusion? Both these tournaments can't go ahead this year? Zero chance?
When compared to places like Mumbai, Chennai etc, Hyderabad is in a much better state as you mentioned which is why it is a great option. BCCI don't want ICC to cancel the T-20 World Cup, but postpone it to next year for financial reasons obviously. In my opinion, I don't think either of these tournaments will be held this year and both BCCI and the ICC should be prepared to face short term losses since the cases in India seem to be rising dramatically and don't seem to be slowing down anytime soon.
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Who knows if they go with the empty stadium? Kinda funny statement from the BCCI CEO Rahul Johri " More people watched the IPL last year than those who voted for general election" So what is the conclusion? Both these tournaments can't go ahead this year? Zero chance?
Window is small so yeah its safe to say "zero chance" unless BCCI goes cuckoo and gives green signal to IPL with in next 2-3 months The way i am looking at this whole situation, CA too leaning onto IPL.
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May 21, 2020, 09:36:22 PM |
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ICC seriously needs to re-start the cricket ASAP. It should be doing it in steps:
1. Get it started with empty stadiums. 2. In the next few months, start keeping little crowd, like 10k people in 25k capacity. 3. Keep improving the number of people in stadiums till the end of COVID19.
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May 21, 2020, 10:04:38 PM |
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ICC seriously needs to re-start the cricket ASAP. It should be doing it in steps:
1. Get it started with empty stadiums. 2. In the next few months, start keeping little crowd, like 10k people in 25k capacity. 3. Keep improving the number of people in stadiums till the end of COVID19.
I think empty stadium is a good idea till a cure comes out. Why take a risk? Crowd will never follow social distancing, whatever kind of rules you lay in people will get excited and forget those rules. They should organise these matches without any crowds.
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May 21, 2020, 10:40:22 PM |
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Hyderabad is not completely free from the pandemic, but it seems to be one of the better options right now. Tier 3 cities such as Goa and Trivandrum lack multiple stadiums, where dozens of matches can be played on a continuous basis. However, from the article posted by Huanebu, it looks as if BCCI wants the ICC to cancel the T20 World Cup. So what is the conclusion? Both these tournaments can't go ahead this year? Zero chance?
If there is an option for me i would rather want to see the T20 World Cup than the IPL and as you said, Goa and Kerala does not have multiple international stadiums, but they have stadiums . The World Cup was scheduled in Australia and the virus situation is under control and considering that if the countries that are participating in the world cup can take measures by testing the players then the problem can be sorted out considering England is planning to resume cricket, it is a realistic possibility that T20 can be conducted without audience.
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May 22, 2020, 04:35:52 AM |
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Hyderabad is not completely free from the pandemic, but it seems to be one of the better options right now. Tier 3 cities such as Goa and Trivandrum lack multiple stadiums, where dozens of matches can be played on a continuous basis. However, from the article posted by Huanebu, it looks as if BCCI wants the ICC to cancel the T20 World Cup. So what is the conclusion? Both these tournaments can't go ahead this year? Zero chance?
If there is an option for me i would rather want to see the T20 World Cup than the IPL and as you said, Goa and Kerala does not have multiple international stadiums, but they have stadiums . The World Cup was scheduled in Australia and the virus situation is under control and considering that if the countries that are participating in the world cup can take measures by testing the players then the problem can be sorted out considering England is planning to resume cricket, it is a realistic possibility that T20 can be conducted without audience. @eaLity if it comes down to a vote I hope that all the countries will vote for scheduling the T20 World Cup, instead of opting to send their players to play in IPL. Furthermore it’s an open secret that BCCI is doing all they can to postpone the T20 World Cup, and in it’s place schedule the IPL and they may even succeed if conditions suddenly improve in India and at the same time number of cases rise in Australia. Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/ipl-possible-after-rains-bcci-ceo-rahul-johri/articleshow/75858397.cmshttps://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/mark-taylor-t20-world-cup-postponement-will-open-door-for-ipl-india-tour-of-australia-1678937-2020-05-17https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/australia-sports-minister-points-out-the-biggest-issue-with-hosting-t20-world-cup/story-75XG6n47jLcBJqn1mkEGsO.html
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May 22, 2020, 04:59:25 AM |
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Furthermore it’s an open secret that BCCI is doing all they can to postpone the T20 World Cup, and in it’s place schedule the IPL and they may even succeed if conditions suddenly improve in India and at the same time number of cases rise in Australia.
Out of curiosity, What exactly BCCI doing in terms of postponing the T-20 World cup? Care to explain.. The articles which you have shared shows nothing like that and its already been shared here. All BCCI doing is planning to turn lemon into lemonade, if any opportunity comes.. is it wrong?
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May 22, 2020, 07:01:34 AM |
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ICC seriously needs to re-start the cricket ASAP. It should be doing it in steps:
1. Get it started with empty stadiums. 2. In the next few months, start keeping little crowd, like 10k people in 25k capacity. 3. Keep improving the number of people in stadiums till the end of COVID19.
This is only viable in countries like Australia and NZ where the COVID cases are relatively on the lower side. This is an impossible scenario in places like India etc where the cases are soaring with every passing day. The crowds would protest against the BCCI for focusing on profits instead of saving lives. If there is an option for me i would rather want to see the T20 World Cup than the IPL and as you said, Goa and Kerala does not have multiple international stadiums, but they have stadiums . Hyderabad is a better option in comparison even though the cases there are a bit higher. However, this is still a bad time to consider hosting the IPL or the T-20 World Cup in my opinion.
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May 22, 2020, 01:20:47 PM |
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^^^^ I agree with the Hyderabad part. The outbreak there is under control, and new cases are being reported only from containment zones. But then, there is a risk factor. A lot of people from that city works in GCC nations such as Saudi Arabia. Expats are being brought back to their hometowns, and large number of cases are being reported from this group.
Staging the T20 World Cup in Australia may also involve similar risks. But I guess the risk can be brought under control, if they take strict precautions and play the matches with no crowd.
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CA might have some objection on this "empty stadium" idea. One possible argument is, ICC will take all the revenue and Australia need to do all the preparation including taking risks.
EDIT After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list. Uthappa wants BCCI to allow participation in overseas T20 leagues
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May 22, 2020, 09:38:13 PM |
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~snip @eaLity if it comes down to a vote I hope that all the countries will vote for scheduling the T20 World Cup, instead of opting to send their players to play in IPL. Furthermore it’s an open secret that BCCI is doing all they can to postpone the T20 World Cup, and in it’s place schedule the IPL and they may even succeed if conditions suddenly improve in India and at the same time number of cases rise in Australia. Sourav Ganguly is the BCCI president and i hope he will vote for T20 World Cup rather than the IPL even though the loss they will be encountering will be huge, the situation in India is not that favorable to restart the matches but the situation in Australia is completely different, they only have 515 positive cases and the situation is under control and hence there is a possibility for the T20 World Cup. ~snip Hyderabad is a better option in comparison even though the cases there are a bit higher. However, this is still a bad time to consider hosting the IPL or the T-20 World Cup in my opinion. As mentioned earlier the situation in Australia is under control, they can carry on with the World Cup and if possible the IPL can be shifted to Australia considering the situation in Australia is under control. After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.
I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity .
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May 22, 2020, 11:24:53 PM |
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Well right now its looking good for the T20 world cup to go ahead and I'm not sure if the cases will rise in Australia as the Government was quick to respond which is why we see low cases here. Yes winter starts in June here and it looks like the Government is going to start opening up so we could see a spike in cases but its happening all over the world right now and doesn't look like stopping. Its all about the money now days so the BCCI may very well get their wish.
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May 22, 2020, 11:37:40 PM Last edit: May 23, 2020, 02:23:22 AM by pakhitheboss |
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Sourav Ganguly is the BCCI president and i hope he will vote for T20 World Cup rather than the IPL even though the loss they will be encountering will be huge, the situation in India is not that favorable to restart the matches but the situation in Austrhalia is completely different, they only have 515 positive cases and the situation is under control and hence there is a possibility for the T20 World Cup.
Sourav Ganguly is a BCCI president first and I do not think he will vote for T20 World Cup when he knows how important it is for BCCI financially to conduct IPL. Therefore I doubt he will vote Worldcup over IPL. I am sure they will organise the IPL with out any spectators using local players and if foreign players want to come they will provide them with necessary safety measure. They will opconduct these matches in states where there are less cases as if now Kerala, Telengana, Himachal Pradesh and few others have shown a huge improvement. Lets see what he thinks. I still prefer World cup over IPL anytime.
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After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.
I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity . As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)
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May 23, 2020, 07:11:08 AM |
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so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)
This is one reason. Another reason is that the players could get exposed to COVID-19 since majority of these cases originated abroad which would damage their health and performance in the long term. This could prove to be a tremendous loss both for the fans and BCCI who treat them as assets as you mentioned. The players themselves are bound by contracts and nothing much can be done in this case. Overall, I do agree with BCCI here since they are focusing on the big picture in the long term.
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so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)
This is one reason. Another reason is that the players could get exposed to COVID-19 since majority of these cases originated abroad which would damage their health and performance in the long term. COVID-19 is recent crisis so this argument doesn't fit in " Players not playing in foreign leagues" narrative. This could prove to be a tremendous loss both for the fans and BCCI who treat them as assets as you mentioned. The players themselves are bound by contracts and nothing much can be done in this case.
Overall, I do agree with BCCI here since they are focusing on the big picture in the long term. I didn't understand that why its loss for BCCI, for fans i can understand that they don't get to see their fav players playing in the foreign T-20 leagues but for BCCI its well thought strategy, they are earning because of players so it makes sense in their perspective.
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Haunebu
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May 23, 2020, 01:52:48 PM |
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COVID-19 is recent crisis so this argument doesn't fit in " Players not playing in foreign leagues" narrative.
I was actually referring to the current and future leagues. Guess both of us got confused here. I didn't understand that why its loss for BCCI, for fans i can understand that they don't get to see their fav players playing in the foreign T-20 leagues but for BCCI its well thought strategy, they are earning because of players so it makes sense in their perspective.
It is a huge loss for the BCCI if any of the players get affected by the virus while playing abroad. Just imagine certain popular Cricketers dying because of the virus which is completely possible. Even if they don't die, their health could take a hit barring them from future matches. This is why it's best not to risk sending any of the players abroad for their own safety.
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akhjob
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May 23, 2020, 06:20:17 PM |
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Since the Indian Govt has advised the People to learn to live with the Coronavirus, BCCI will try to find a window among the current schedule to host IPL with a minimum crowd. But considering the current scenario, I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively. After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.
I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity . As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL) I don't think that the case, because no other foreign leagues take place during IPL season if I am not wrong. So BCCI doesn't have to worry about the loss of fans regarding IPL.
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