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December 10, 2022, 06:06:52 PM
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Pretty much all UFC fighters apart from the superstars are underpaid. Even Ngannou isn't paid what he should. Half a million for his last fight when there's people like Nate Diaz getting nearly a million fore his last fight and Khamzat Chimaev reportedly got 2 million. Doesn't make sense to me. They really need to start paying fighters a lot more or they're gonna have a lot of great fighters and showmen leave.
I don't think they will leave UFC, the biggest MMA event is UFC, the others like Bellator, KSW, PFL, One championship are pay their fighters lower than UFC. So if those fighters want to continue their journey on MMA, in the end they will stay in UFC even though the paycheck is really different between popular fighters and not really known fighters (although he's the champion).
Loads of fighters have already left and many are already fighting in Bellator and other promotions. If there's a mass exodus then Bellator will quickly grow and could become a viable competitor. You're right that they won't get as much as in the UFC but if UFC is strong-arming them by not paying them any more or refusing to re-sign then they will have no choice. Ngannou will be out of contract in January I believe and if they can't come to an agreement he will be a free-agent. Where will he go if they both refuse to come to an agreement? He will have to go somewhere. Bellator will probably give him a good deal and it may or may not be better than the UFC but getting him would be a big win and get a lot of eyeballs on them as a promotion. IF they get a reputation of being more favourable to fighters they could quickly gain ground as a strong rival. The bigger Bellator grows the more they can pay fighters.

Problematic is that the UFC does not have any actual competition. We have also seen Dana White openly admitting that even if the fighters are not getting paid as they think they should be, the fighters can open/move to another fight club and try to get paid more. Which is obviously not happening.

And that is why the UFC is able to pay the fighters like they are doing and honestly get away with it. There is no doubt that the actual superstars of the UFC are probably not paid as well as they should be. 

But if they do not stay and fight in the UFC, where will they go?

The UFC does give a lot of importance to selling fights. In some cases more than the actual Fighting skills of the fighters.
I agree that in the end, that is what brings in money for the UFC. But I think enough money is generated by the UFC and they can afford to give the fighters a little more. At this point, the UFC is taking advantage of having no competition.

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December 10, 2022, 10:09:41 PM
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I don't think the UFC will ever find another break through super star as huge as McGregor...  Not in a long time at least.  They tried with a few guys but it turned out to be cringe or the fighter turned out to really wasn't that good in the cage.  That's why I appreciate what the likes of Covington is doing...  He knows it's all for the lulz and he knows that we know it's fake and he does it anyway to annoy everybody.  Lol.  A lot of these guys who do it to look cool will turn out cringey and will never do it like McGregor did.  I'm talking about McGregor before he became cringey himself.  Lolol.

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Well, sad to say in finding another Conor McGregor they will fail, and the McGregor from the past when McGregor failed to be himself when he started losing he has become so annoying after that, I guess the UFC will not going to get something like that ever again, for me they can not make another McGregor, because they haven't make Conor in the 1st place and at the worst part making Paddy Pimblett like Conor McGregor or Paddy being that man

Another one bites the dust, a Cancelled fight again because of missing weight 3 pounds seems not that much but they still cancel a fight but that is their decision and surely there are many that really didn't care about it including me,


Problematic is that the UFC does not have any actual competition. We have also seen Dana White openly admitting that even if the fighters are not getting paid as they think they should be, the fighters can open/move to another fight club and try to get paid more. Which is obviously not happening.

And that is why the UFC is able to pay the fighters like they are doing and honestly get away with it. There is no doubt that the actual superstars of the UFC are probably not paid as well as they should be. 

But if they do not stay and fight in the UFC, where will they go?

The UFC does give a lot of importance to selling fights. In some cases more than the actual Fighting skills of the fighters.
I agree that in the end, that is what brings in money for the UFC. But I think enough money is generated by the UFC and they can afford to give the fighters a little more. At this point, the UFC is taking advantage of having no competition.

That is why the eagle had opened its own fighting promotion but it is not huge enough or well-known enough to make any progress yet, but the thing is Bellator might be nearing what the UFC is doing, but unfortunately, they are not there yet but is why there is no other competition for the UFC, that is why Dana White is not afraid to say shit like these, he doesn't really care at all in what others would think about what are they doing, for now, UFC still has the huge amount than with the other fighting promotions out there that is why fighters are staying even though they are risking their lives in this company, and this will continue until there is no competition or any politician would care to make a bill about the amount of money a fighter that are risking their lives inside the ring would need to take,
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December 10, 2022, 10:26:27 PM
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The most interesting fight on tomorrow card is blachowicz vs ankalaev i am surprised to see the former champ such an underdog but his opponent is a beast in the light heavyweight division recently he beat some heavy names, the age difference might be a problem since ankalaev seem to have more endurance but he is not able to finish his opponents lately so i expect a total war and it will likely come down to referee decision.
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December 11, 2022, 12:57:19 AM
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Paddy Pimblet has been acting a bit cringe for me recently. Him and Dana were embarrassingly sucking each other off on his podcast and he was using McGregor lines at the press conference. I think this fight is probably going to be his biggest challenge yet and if he loses it it'll derail the hype train massively.
I'm sure they will make that title fight happen then. Probably Molly and Paddy fighting again as well.
Yeah, unfortunately it does seem like we've got a fighter trying to hard to be someone they aren't. I like Paddy, but he's much more tolerable on non fighting interviews, and podcasts. He seems pretty humble outside of the UFC, but obviously when it comes to the UFC he's trying so hard to be the next big thing; like Mcgregor. Obviously, Dana realises the potential, and is running with it.
Although, I must say this match up is a risky one from Dana, I think Gordon is underestimated by a lot of fans.
Dana is desperate for him to be the next McGregor as his time is nearly up if it isn't already so the UFC needs another superstar that grabs the headlines. The thing is, Paddy doesn't need to do this as he already gets numbers so he should just continue being himself. Dana has shown the numbers/views he gets on social media and it dwarfs most other fighters so there's no need to follow the Connor blueprint. I don't even mind him doing that if he's original but he was literally using Connor's lines almost verbatim which was cringe as was him licking Dana's arse at every opportunity.

Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.
But I am not sure about taking his identity away from him and trying to make him the next Conor McGregor. A fighter needs his own identity to grow.
If he tries to portray himself as Conor McGregor-2nd he will cringe and people will start trolling him. And that is exactly what happened with him in my opinion. I hope that Dana realizes that.

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December 11, 2022, 03:35:42 AM
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Fair play to Topuria beating Mitchell. Was kinda hoping it would go the other way.

Hoping Till and Paddy both win their fights. Till winning his will be a massive statement
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Fair play to Topuria beating Mitchell. Was kinda hoping it would go the other way.

Hoping Till and Paddy both win their fights. Till winning his will be a massive statement

Till Just won by Submission which is quite a good recovery for his career. He's been pretty much on a disastrous path if he loses again, Driving intoxicated might not be the worse he'll get into.

Paddy might win. I'm 50/50 but am close to 100% that Ankalaev will win against Yan. The wrestling can bring him down.


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December 11, 2022, 04:28:11 AM
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Fair play to Topuria beating Mitchell. Was kinda hoping it would go the other way.

Hoping Till and Paddy both win their fights. Till winning his will be a massive statement

Till Just won by Submission which is quite a good recovery for his career. He's been pretty much on a disastrous path if he loses again, Driving intoxicated might not be the worse he'll get into.

Paddy might win. I'm 50/50 but am close to 100% that Ankalaev will win against Yan. The wrestling can bring him down.
Sadly Till didn’t win, however to be fair I’m glad he managed to even get out the first round.
I believe he also tore his ACL
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Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.
Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges  Cheesy.

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Till Just won by Submission which is quite a good recovery for his career. He's been pretty much on a disastrous path if he loses again, Driving intoxicated might not be the worse he'll get into.
Which fight you were watching mate, Darren Till got whooped left and right and got submitted. He needs to consider what he needs to do about his career as his alliance with Khamzat Chimaev is not helping his career either.

Paddy might win. I'm 50/50 but am close to 100% that Ankalaev will win against Yan. The wrestling can bring him down.
Magomed Ankalaev is my prediction in this fight and another title for Dagestan and they are taking over the fight world.

Edit: Damn it was a great fight and another magical decision from the judges, Magomed Ankalaev's leg were compromised in the third round but he came back and i thought he won the fight but the judges scored it as a draw  Cheesy.
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Obviously, there is some kind of mutual understanding going on between Dana and Paddy. Dana wants him to be the next poster boy for sure.
I don't know if this is going to be a wise decision made by the UFC or not. Because I certainly think that Paddy has the potential to be the next poster boy for the UFC.
Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges  Cheesy.

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Till Just won by Submission which is quite a good recovery for his career. He's been pretty much on a disastrous path if he loses again, Driving intoxicated might not be the worse he'll get into.
Which fight you were watching mate, Darren Till got whooped left and right and got submitted. He needs to consider what he needs to do about his career as his alliance with Khamzat Chimaev is not helping his career either.

Paddy might win. I'm 50/50 but am close to 100% that Ankalaev will win against Yan. The wrestling can bring him down.
Magomed Ankalaev is my prediction in this fight and another title for Dagestan and they are taking over the fight world.

It's the other way around! Damn update. He seems to be very confident in thier face-off. He use to be a fighter that Dana favored thinking he can become one that will also bring good promotion for UFC. If Khamzat didn't appear to be a villain in the UFC, it could help Till's career. Right now it's more like sinking deeper after this loss.


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December 11, 2022, 06:13:09 AM
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Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges  Cheesy.
The clear strike (unofficial) score. Shows that Gordon has a lot of clear strikes than Paddy, but still we don't know what's really going on I thought it's gonna be finished in 1st round after Gordon made a clear shot on Paddy's jaw but that's one tough Englishman.

Gordon didn't managed to win by submission and nearly lost in second round, luckily he managed to get away with the submission.


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December 11, 2022, 09:53:02 AM
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Imho, instead of giving Ankalaev vs Blachowicz a split draw, judges should have given Paddy vs Gordon a split draw, if the wanted to save Paddys clear record so badly.

Someone might say, that this was another "anti Russian judgement", and judges have robbed Ankalaev similar to Petr Jan. But for me Blachowicz won that fight. For me it is 3-2 for Blachowicz. He took first 3 rounds, but lost 5th round badly due to lack of activity or stamina. That is why one of the judges gave 8-9 for 5th round. If it was 9-9, than Jan would won with 1 point advantage.

One of the reasons why we have a split draw and no champ. 2 days ago I have watch an interview with Dana. He spoke about Prochazka injury. He said, that shoulder injury is not as bad as he thought. It might not need 6 months to recover. That is why there is still a chance to see Prochazka vs Texeira second title fight.

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December 11, 2022, 01:14:48 PM
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Some minor news:
UFC is back to London. UFC 286 will take place in London on March 2023. Perhaps we are going to see Edwards vs Usman 3 there. Looks like UFC bosses are helping Usman to get his belt back.
Paulo Costa has refused to re-sign his new 6-fight UFC contract. Reasons seems to be simple - money. This is not the first time Costa complains he is getting low paid. If he really turns free agent, I would get sad. I really liked to watch that guy fight.
Pretty much all UFC fighters apart from the superstars are underpaid. Even Ngannou isn't paid what he should. Half a million for his last fight when there's people like Nate Diaz getting nearly a million fore his last fight and Khamzat Chimaev reportedly got 2 million. Doesn't make sense to me. They really need to start paying fighters a lot more or they're gonna have a lot of great fighters and showmen leave.
I see two reasons why some get paid more than others, if we dont take into consideration the level of "superstarship" - Chimaev and Diaz are better fight sellers than Costa. Ngannou got paid less, because higher amount wasnt states in his contract. Dont know. Second possible reason - location of an event. Event in UAE or Vegas probably is paid more than UFC Apex or Amway Center.
As to location. UFC 285 is going to be held in Vegas, which means main even and co main events fights are going to be huge. We have Makhachev vs Volkanovski on UFC 284, probably Usman vs Edwards on UFC 286. Either we are going to see Sterling vs Sejudo, Pereiras test, or Ngannou vs Jones finally.

Usman is a very talented fighter and I think the UFC is just trying to do justice to him. Trying to give him enough chances. I think there is a strong flow in Usman’s fighting style. He tends to take it easy when there is not much time left and he is ahead in terms of score. At that certain time, he becomes reactive, not proactive. That is something he might want to fix.

Paulo Costa was probably getting paid as he should be in my opinion. We should remember that even though the UFC fighters are not getting paid, probably like the boxers, they are still getting paid a lot of money. And I don't think Paulo Costa will get paid more anywhere else, to be honest. He is only 31 and he has a lot of time ahead of him. He should take his decisions wisely.

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December 11, 2022, 01:56:52 PM
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Imho, instead of giving Ankalaev vs Blachowicz a split draw, judges should have given Paddy vs Gordon a split draw, if the wanted to save Paddys clear record so badly.

Someone might say, that this was another "anti Russian judgement", and judges have robbed Ankalaev similar to Petr Jan. But for me Blachowicz won that fight. For me it is 3-2 for Blachowicz. He took first 3 rounds, but lost 5th round badly due to lack of activity or stamina. That is why one of the judges gave 8-9 for 5th round. If it was 9-9, than Jan would won with 1 point advantage.

One of the reasons why we have a split draw and no champ. 2 days ago I have watch an interview with Dana. He spoke about Prochazka injury. He said, that shoulder injury is not as bad as he thought. It might not need 6 months to recover. That is why there is still a chance to see Prochazka vs Texeira second title fight.
It was really strange to see a draw by decision between Ankalaev - Blachowicz, even if Blachowicz was stronger in the second and third rounds, then the end of the fight was in the full advantage of Ankalaev. The fight between Paddy and Gordon was really very close, but there is nothing to be surprised at, it turns out that if you did not win by knockout, then be ready for any decision of the referees.  Grin I watched Paddy's interview after the fight, he says that chot hurt his ankle in the first half after the kick, it made him uncomfortable, and you could see how he began to be cautious at the end of the fight. At the beginning he was active and made more punches per fight, so it's more adequate solution.
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December 11, 2022, 02:19:41 PM
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Imho, instead of giving Ankalaev vs Blachowicz a split draw, judges should have given Paddy vs Gordon a split draw, if the wanted to save Paddys clear record so badly.

Someone might say, that this was another "anti Russian judgement", and judges have robbed Ankalaev similar to Petr Jan. But for me Blachowicz won that fight. For me it is 3-2 for Blachowicz. He took first 3 rounds, but lost 5th round badly due to lack of activity or stamina. That is why one of the judges gave 8-9 for 5th round. If it was 9-9, than Jan would won with 1 point advantage.

One of the reasons why we have a split draw and no champ. 2 days ago I have watch an interview with Dana. He spoke about Prochazka injury. He said, that shoulder injury is not as bad as he thought. It might not need 6 months to recover. That is why there is still a chance to see Prochazka vs Texeira second title fight.

I think Gordon and Ankalaev won their matches.  The event was surprisingly good for what it was until the seeing how co main and the main event turned out.

Anyway, here are the results:  https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/92214-ufc-282

All matches ended with a finish except for the final two.

And I'm a bit happy I made a little bit of BTC's as I've won my top three tickets.  Smiley  I hope to continue winning some at the next event.  It's going to be the last one for the year and the next one will be on Jan 14.

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December 11, 2022, 02:19:46 PM
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Pretty much shocking results for the UFC 282

Jan Błachowicz VS Magomed Ankalaev ROUND 5 DRAW - LOST

For me another wrong judgment for the judge I think Ankalaev won this fight but man Jan Blachowicz is really tough pretty much Blachowicz is good at striking and even though Magomed Ankalaev has the speed he didn't do so much because the timing of Blachowicz was pretty much good, but for me, I think Ankalaev have many dominating rounds it just looks very close, Blachowicz even injured the leg of Ankalaev resulting for him to pull wrestling, for me this should have a rematch and Ankalaev should have resulted with the wrestling on the start of the fight pretty much he is dominating when the fight goes to the ground because Blachowicz is pretty much a different beast on the stand-up,

Paddy Pimblett VS Jared Gordon ROUND 3 DECISION - WIN

For this match pretty it was a totally close fight and regarding this fight, it is proven that Paddy Pimblett is not yet ready for the big league in the Lightweight division, if an unranked Gordon would be pretty much hard for him, I think Dana White would fit him to Conor McGregor Paddy Pimblett will be toast, and for this fight even though I have bet for Paddy Pimblett for me I think Jared Gordon should have won this fight or if they don't want to tarnish Pimblett's record they should have made this fight a draw instead so there will be no doubters or there will be fewer doubters on the judge's decision, pretty much Jared Gordon have nullified Pimbett ground game, just like what he has said,

Darren Till VS Dricus Du Plessis ROUND 3 SUBMISSION - WIN


Dricus Du Plessis is serious in what he has said that he is studying his opponent, pretty much he has shown in this fight, and this time he doesn't go there and become reckless unlike with his other 1st fights, I don't really think that Darren Till is pretty much serious with the fight Du Plessis is not a wrestler, and he takedown Till like he is not an amateur, and RugDolling  Darren Till with takedowns, and that connected with the submission,


Bryce Mitchell VS Ilia Topuria ROUND 2 SUBMISSION - WIN

Ilia Topuria was so good at his boxing, pretty much the fight started pretty much close but as soon as the 2nd round started Topuria was dominating Mitchell, and pretty much he have shown so much in this fight in terms of striking Topuria was really good and he shown him that he is also good at Jiu-Jitsu, taken a submission win over Bryce Mitchell, so sure that he can take on Paddy Pimblett when he goes up a division, and I am looking forward in seeing Topuria become a champion, and just like Marlon Vera Topuria is champion material,

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To me, its more surprising, Ankalaev didn't try harder to takedown in the first rounds as he can do it to avoid leg kicks. Or perhaps Błachowicz is just too big to take down so he had to wait for Błacho to be exhausted. Nevertheless that 2 rounds of controlling Blacho would be enough to make a win. Not a very convincing draw decision still. Who could have bet draw this fight, all the money are taken from us.

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December 11, 2022, 05:01:30 PM
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Terrible performance by Paddy Pimblett and clearly lost the first and third round and he still won the fight, what a magical performance by the judges  Cheesy.
The clear strike (unofficial) score. Shows that Gordon has a lot of clear strikes than Paddy, but still we don't know what's really going on I thought it's gonna be finished in 1st round after Gordon made a clear shot on Paddy's jaw but that's one tough Englishman.

Gordon didn't managed to win by submission and nearly lost in second round, luckily he managed to get away with the submission.

I really thought that this fight should have gone toward Gordon. If anyone looks at the scorecard, it will be nearly impossible to decide who is the winner of this match. But I believe Gordon had a better performance in this fight compared to Paddy Pimblett.

Actually, if I said this bluntly, I do not think many people that should have won this fight at all. The decision should have been made the other way around. I am not the only person saying this, but almost all of the other fighters are also saying the same thing.



see this: https://youtu.be/z0TephsgR2k

This was a dumb decision taken by the judges  Undecided


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Thos two last fights were just epic, a lot of people bet on Paddy, and was a surprise to see him winning because we all know the other guy did a better job. And the draw on Ankalaev was just cruel, wasn't easy to see him walking away with tears in his eyes, he deserves that belt.

And something weird happen to me, I placed a parlay with Rosas, Paddy and Ankalaev, And since Ankalaev Draw I think my parlay lost, but it just doesn't pay for that match and get as valid multis the other 2 fights for a x1.8 win in my bet, so, that feels nice.

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December 11, 2022, 06:21:30 PM
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Imho, instead of giving Ankalaev vs Blachowicz a split draw, judges should have given Paddy vs Gordon a split draw, if the wanted to save Paddys clear record so badly.

Someone might say, that this was another "anti Russian judgement", and judges have robbed Ankalaev similar to Petr Jan. But for me Blachowicz won that fight. For me it is 3-2 for Blachowicz. He took first 3 rounds, but lost 5th round badly due to lack of activity or stamina. That is why one of the judges gave 8-9 for 5th round. If it was 9-9, than Jan would won with 1 point advantage.

One of the reasons why we have a split draw and no champ. 2 days ago I have watch an interview with Dana. He spoke about Prochazka injury. He said, that shoulder injury is not as bad as he thought. It might not need 6 months to recover. That is why there is still a chance to see Prochazka vs Texeira second title fight.

The result of the Paddy Pimblett fight was obviously influenced by some other things. Dana White is obviously starting to like this kid. And that is a big reason why this kid is favored so much in many cases. And an honest opinion of mine is that Paddy Pimblett is not very serious about every fight after knowing that he is becoming the favorite kind of Dana White. We have seen how he walks around when he does not have a fight. He looks like a freaking balloon. This kid is getting spoiled.

Prochazka vs Texeira
Dana White did describe that the injury to Prochazka was probably the worst shoulder injury that he had ever seen. But things do not look that bad right now. He is improving quite well. I honestly think that there is a chance that this fight might actually happen.

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December 11, 2022, 07:02:15 PM
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Thos two last fights were just epic, a lot of people bet on Paddy, and was a surprise to see him winning because we all know the other guy did a better job. And the draw on Ankalaev was just cruel, wasn't easy to see him walking away with tears in his eyes, he deserves that belt.

And something weird happen to me, I placed a parlay with Rosas, Paddy and Ankalaev, And since Ankalaev Draw I think my parlay lost, but it just doesn't pay for that match and get as valid multis the other 2 fights for a x1.8 win in my bet, so, that feels nice.

Nice surprise on the parlay win. I’m surprised they gave that to you as well.

I haven’t watched Paddy’s fight yet but I’m hearing that was a more controversial decision that the Suga Sean O’Malley decision. I think it seems obvious that the UFC wants Suga and Paddy to be the next stars of the UFC and they are both great characters. I’m just not sure they’re good enough to fill the position.

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