🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[danherbias07]

Burns was ranked 2 or 3 at the time though while Nate is not even listed in the top 10 and is also inactive already for a year. Nate may be able to land some of his strikes but knowing Chimaev's big heart, the guy will not be stopped easily.

Leon Edwards may rematch Kamaru next but I want to see Kamaru fight a lesser opponent as a tune-up. Let Edwards face Colby or Chimaev and then Usman next. I'm bored with the constant immediate rematches UFC has been doing. But Chimaev should be able to get his title shot next year.

If Chimaev won, he will surely get a shot for the title. But if UFC wants to twist it a bit, let him have a match with Usman first. That's going to be entertaining. I guess the question is who they will put for the first title defense of Leon Edwards.

And what's with this clip of Chael Sonnen about Edwards being a cheater regarding the fence grab?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psBhNhQKzXE
Obviously a biased thought of him. Usman did the same and it was seen by Herb Dean the other fence grab though was missed.
They both did it, which means they both cheated. But it all comes down to how it ended and there's no question it's a clean kick.

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[YuginKadoya]

Ha-ha, unexpected defeat. There were so many recent fights, where a huge underdog won, that I start to think that Nate could lend some decent punches into Chimaev face. Like in a fight Burns vs Chimaev. A lot of people thought that untouchable Chimaev would win in first or second round, but in reality he took a good beating by Burns. 

It was really unexpected, but I like it when I make you laugh, but it was really unexpected for me I rooted for Usman, and even the score cards he was really dominating the fight, to the extent that Leon Edwards doesn't know what to do anymore, but yeah he surely push himself in making a great comeback and to never give up,

In Nate Diaz's case, Khamzat Chimaev doesn't really move his head much he is more of a head-on collision type of fighter, where he would surely  get ready for his opponent to strike and make a counter of his own, just like his fight on Burns, so Nate Diaz would have to put a lot of strength on his punches, so he could knock Chimaev out,

Gane is just way better in all aspects of the game if compared with Tuivasa.  But I'm not saying Tuivasa can't win.  He can, esp with Gane having the tendency to dart in with his shots at times.  It opens opportunities for Tuivasa to get in the clinch and do those elbows like he did to Lewis.  But yeah...  Pick is still Gane and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes Tuivasa.

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Me aswell, even though there is a chance for Tai Tuivasa to win here, I will always give my pick for Cyril Gane, even in the fight against Francis Ngannou I have gone with Ciryl Gane, but if Tai Tuivasa changes the way he is doing things maybe there could be a chance that Tuivasa could win this, but Ciryl Gane got the experience in fighting guys like Tanner Boser, Junior dos Santos, Jairzinho Rozenstruik, Alexander Volkov, Derrick Lewis, and Francis Ngannou, so I think he can handle Tai Tuivasa easily, in my opinion,

Gane will likely be fighting Francis after this. But it be more tense to see Blaydes against Francis. If Dana wants to end Francis career like the Diaz path, I think Blaydes will be a match to watch.

He is rooting for Gane though. Tuivasa has a change ofc. The man is tough, you can count how many punches Lewis hit his head but he fought back crazily.

Tai Tuivasa is crazily durable for someone like Ciryl Gane, at 1st I was doubting Ciryl Gane's punching power but when he knocks Lewis down I surely don't doubt him anymore but the level of durability of Tuivasa is crazy compared to Lewis, so this is going to be a pretty much decision win for him by keeping a safe distance and getting a volume of punches on him just to be safe, could be the game plan,

[bbc.reporter]

Many fighters do not recover from the type of knockout that Leon Rocky Edwards has given to Kamaru Usman according to former lightweight champion Khabib. We cannot be quite certain if he is correct with his analysis, however, Khabib has also made a similar prediction on El Cucuy after he was beaten by Justin Gaethje and he was very much correct.

Khabib Nurmagomedov has said he is unsure how Kamaru Usman will react to his knockout defeat by Leon Edwards, admitting: “A lot of people don’t recover.”

“I’m aware that the trilogy is already in the works,” Khabib added. “I believe [Usman] can beat Leon Edwards, but after such a knockout, a lot of people don’t recover. It will be interesting to see, but I would love to see the trilogy.”

Source https://news.yahoo.com/lot-people-don-t-recover-145032420.html

It must be difficult to recover from such loss. Its shocking to see yourself dominating the division for a longtime and fall instantly. Usman was winning their fight and then suddenly drop. If the resounding headkick keeps replaying in his mind,  he may not recover.  

First cut being the deepest does not apply to his loss though. Its not his first time, he'll get over it.

It might not only be about Kamaru Usman being the Nigerian Nightmare, pound for pound best or the money that he was having for dominating the division. I think that it might also be more about how he was knocked out! In any case, I speculate the odds of the rematch might be similar to the first fight. Leon Edwards will be underestimated again and Leon Edwards will prove everyone that we are wrong again hehe.

[TopTort777]

It might not only be about Kamaru Usman being the Nigerian Nightmare, pound for pound best or the money that he was having for dominating the division. I think that it might also be more about how he was knocked out! In any case, I speculate the odds of the rematch might be similar to the first fight. Leon Edwards will be underestimated again and Leon Edwards will prove everyone that we are wrong again hehe.

I think you meant third fight. Usman and Edwards already met twice If they meet again, I believe Usman will be more oriented on his wrestling skills. I just dont think that Edwards first defense will be against Usman. Who know, maybe Chimaev will be the one to take Edwards belt. Maybe Chimaev and Usman gonna meet first, and only then Edwards is going to have a title defense.

Imho, Edwards is quite boring when speaking about selling the fight. Usman was much more popular. For a business, I think UFC will try Edwards title defense as quick as possible, to test his selling skills or to change current champion.

[tokeweed]

Gane is just way better in all aspects of the game if compared with Tuivasa.  But I'm not saying Tuivasa can't win.  He can, esp with Gane having the tendency to dart in with his shots at times.  It opens opportunities for Tuivasa to get in the clinch and do those elbows like he did to Lewis.  But yeah...  Pick is still Gane and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes Tuivasa.

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Me aswell, even though there is a chance for Tai Tuivasa to win here, I will always give my pick for Cyril Gane, even in the fight against Francis Ngannou I have gone with Ciryl Gane, but if Tai Tuivasa changes the way he is doing things maybe there could be a chance that Tuivasa could win this, but Ciryl Gane got the experience in fighting guys like Tanner Boser, Junior dos Santos, Jairzinho Rozenstruik, Alexander Volkov, Derrick Lewis, and Francis Ngannou, so I think he can handle Tai Tuivasa easily, in my opinion,

About Cyril Gane's loss vs Ngannou, you really can't fault the former for losing against the latter.  Ngannou is a freak of nature and he got better after his own loss vs Miocic.  If Dana White and the UFC play their cards right I think they have another great fighter in their hands.  

Anyway..  Looking at the event roster, I think it would be better if Whittaker vs Vettori be the main event.  I'd rather see them go 5 rounds than Gane and Tuivasa.  Match ups to watch are Imavov vs Buckley, Jourdain vs Wood and Whittaker vs Vettori. 

[danherbias07]

It might not only be about Kamaru Usman being the Nigerian Nightmare, pound for pound best or the money that he was having for dominating the division. I think that it might also be more about how he was knocked out! In any case, I speculate the odds of the rematch might be similar to the first fight. Leon Edwards will be underestimated again and Leon Edwards will prove everyone that we are wrong again hehe.

I think you meant third fight. Usman and Edwards already met twice If they meet again, I believe Usman will be more oriented on his wrestling skills. I just dont think that Edwards first defense will be against Usman. Who know, maybe Chimaev will be the one to take Edwards belt. Maybe Chimaev and Usman gonna meet first, and only then Edwards is going to have a title defense.

Imho, Edwards is quite boring when speaking about selling the fight. Usman was much more popular. For a business, I think UFC will try Edwards title defense as quick as possible, to test his selling skills or to change current champion.

I don't think so too, Dana will try to make money first by heating up the fans into screaming to forge the rematch already.  Also, I doubt he will put him in a fight that may take off that belt from Edwards, or else there won't be a rematch that will happen anymore or if there will be, it's not that much exciting as the second one. It won't be good for the business.
I see a lot of hate being thrown at Edwards. I am kind of intrigued by how much money was lost due to his unexpected win. 

[YuginKadoya]

About Cyril Gane's loss vs Ngannou, you really can't fault the former for losing against the latter.  Ngannou is a freak of nature and he got better after his own loss vs Miocic.  If Dana White and the UFC play their cards right I think they have another great fighter in their hands.  

Anyway..  Looking at the event roster, I think it would be better if Whittaker vs Vettori be the main event.  I'd rather see them go 5 rounds than Gane and Tuivasa.  Match ups to watch are Imavov vs Buckley, Jourdain vs Wood and Whittaker vs Vettori. 

Well, I am not saying Francis Ngannou is not that great but maybe it really sounded like I am biased about Ciryl Gane because I really do, but after seeing that fight against Ngannou I could say Francis Ngannou is a beast, he will definitely do anything to win, and he is still improving ever since that match, maybe now we can see him trained in grappling and now make takedowns, I think now he surely understands the importance of control inside the ring, well, taking control on takedowns really is a big part on this sports, and some fighter are taking control on feints, pretty much I really Francis Ngannou might surprise us in his next match,

I don't think so too, Dana will try to make money first by heating up the fans into screaming to forge the rematch already.  Also, I doubt he will put him in a fight that may take off that belt from Edwards, or else there won't be a rematch that will happen anymore or if there will be, it's not that much exciting as the second one. It won't be good for the business.
I see a lot of hate being thrown at Edwards. I am kind of intrigued by how much money was lost due to his unexpected win. 

Pretty much Dana White is all about money, if he sees that fans don't want Leon Edwards to be champion anymore Dana White will surely do everything to take that belt from him, well just like what is happening to Nate Diaz he doesn't like Nate so he surely arranges a fight with Khamzat Chimaev if the fans or people don't like something he will definitely disposed of them, he will always tend to be on the money, and not on the fighters,

[TopTort777]

I don't think so too, Dana will try to make money first by heating up the fans into screaming to forge the rematch already.   Also, I doubt he will put him in a fight that may take off that belt from Edwards, or else there won't be a rematch that will happen anymore or if there will be, it's not that much exciting as the second one. It won't be good for the business.
I see a lot of hate being thrown at Edwards. I am kind of intrigued by how much money was lost due to his unexpected win.  

This is not hate, this is normal people reaction on someone who has achieved something big in a questionable way. I believe no one would say that Edwards took that beating during all round on purpose to put Usman cautiousness to sleep and due to perfect timing landed that high kick. A lot of people think it was a pure luck or coincidence. Like Aljo got his belt almost accidentally. People will accept Edwards as a champ when he makes a title defence or has another fight with Usman.


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[danherbias07]

^Hilarious! The sweetness makes me jealous.  

Pretty much Dana White is all about money, if he sees that fans don't want Leon Edwards to be champion anymore Dana White will surely do everything to take that belt from him, well just like what is happening to Nate Diaz he doesn't like Nate so he surely arranges a fight with Khamzat Chimaev if the fans or people don't like something he will definitely disposed of them, he will always tend to be on the money, and not on the fighters,

The Khamzat vs Nate may be different, imo.
Nate is actually a fan favorite which could be the reason why he was pulled up to fight upstairs even though he is way below the rankings. Dana White's dislike of him is not in the formula, again it's all about the money that will come in when you put a fighter that has a broad amount of fans.

This is not hate, this is normal people reaction on someone who has achieved something big in a questionable way. I believe no one would say that Edwards took that beating during all round on purpose to put Usman cautiousness to sleep and due to perfect timing landed that high kick. A lot of people think it was a pure luck or coincidence. Like Aljo got his belt almost accidentally. People will accept Edwards as a champ when he makes a title defence or has another fight with Usman.

Yeah, that must be the one thing he must do to validate it. Sorry about the wrong word "hate" the right word should be "unconvinced" or "unsatisfied".
UFC fans will want verification to totally accept he is the undisputed champion.

[TopTort777]

Even though Leon Edwards was on a series of 9 wins before fight against Usman, people still think he needs to be tested. Because everyone are shocked not because he beat Usman in a fight, but because he has beaten him by luck than by skill. He has been loosing for 24 minutes and all of a sudden he has switched Usmans light.

I think Dana should organize a rematch or these two have to meet again. Similar story as Aljamain Sterling and Petr Yan fight. Aljo won title by DQ, everyone laughed at him and did not believe in him, but in their second fight he has proved that he deserved that (or Petr proved that Aljo needed that belt more )

[inthelongrun]

Even though Leon Edwards was on a series of 9 wins before fight against Usman, people still think he needs to be tested. Because everyone are shocked not because he beat Usman in a fight, but because he has beaten him by luck than by skill. He has been loosing for 24 minutes and all of a sudden he has switched Usmans light.

I think Dana should organize a rematch or these two have to meet again. Similar story as Aljamain Sterling and Petr Yan fight. Aljo won title by DQ, everyone laughed at him and did not believe in him, but in their second fight he has proved that he deserved that (or Petr proved that Aljo needed that belt more )

Leon Edwards will never get the respect unless he will beat Usman convincingly. I'm confident the oddsmakers will list Edwards as an underdog over Usman, Colby, Chimaev, and even against Burns. Maybe Dana should do something different like putting Usman as the main undercard on Edwards' first title defense. It will be an interesting build-up like what happened during Adesanya's title defense where in Strickland-Pereira was also the main undercard.

Aljo after the rematch with Yan posted an apology form for his haters. I scored it 3-2 in favor of Yan although I have no issue with the result as it was really close and could've gone either way.

[cabron]

Edwards I think won the fight convincingly, its however be unbelievable for most because Usman is known to  be the toughest. Edwards despite the series of 9 wins, he doesn't look tough. Most of them were UD. The rematch 3 is getting hyped already and podcasters are jumping in telling Edwards cheated for holding to the cage when he was about to be taken down so ye it will be interesting to watch reactions if Usman is among main undercard on Edwards' first title defense.

[Welsh]

I'm going to get back to my predictions this weekend, finally. Anyway, early leans are Gane, as many of you know I'm not a massive fan of him, but as much as I love bam bam, and the shoey's after the fights, I just don't see him catching Gane. The thing is about Tai his success comes from fighters that are willing to brawl, a bit like the Lewis fight. However, Gane isn't going to stand in front of him, and instead will look to tough Tai, and then get out of there.

So, my favourite of the weekend would be Gane, and by the looks of the odds 1.18 at my bookie, they agree. I'm not saying there isn't a chance, and I'll definitely be cheering on Tai, but I think it's probably the most logical bet of the weekend.

[YuginKadoya]

This is not hate, this is normal people reaction on someone who has achieved something big in a questionable way. I believe no one would say that Edwards took that beating during all round on purpose to put Usman cautiousness to sleep and due to perfect timing landed that high kick. A lot of people think it was a pure luck or coincidence. Like Aljo got his belt almost accidentally. People will accept Edwards as a champ when he makes a title defence or has another fight with Usman.

I really think it was a coincidental win on Leon Edward's part, Kamaru Usman was really winning that fight being dominating the entire 3 rounds even if he lost the last round Usman still wins this but that feint hook kick is what I want to call it, was really on timing and the strength could really hurt and gets out cold Leon Edwards, for me it was luck he surely conditioned Kamaru Usman with that left hook for him to get caught but I think it was a last-ditch effort for Leon Edwards in winning this and for his surprise it works

The Khamzat vs Nate may be different, imo.
Nate is actually a fan favorite which could be the reason why he was pulled up to fight upstairs even though he is way below the rankings. Dana White's dislike of him is not in the formula, again it's all about the money that will come in when you put a fighter that has a broad amount of fans.

Like I have said Dana White is all for the money nothing more nothing less, and because of that much Support Nate Diaz has all of those fans that will surely avail and watch that fight against Khamzat Chimaev to surely support him, I think that is what Dana White is after, but again I may be wrong, but the following fight it will all go down into how good Chimaev can be, and how can Nate Diaz take on that monster on grappling, the way he manhandle Li Jingliang inside the ring while having a conversation with Dana White is really superb, he can sure do that to Nate Diaz,

[erep]

I really think it was a coincidental win on Leon Edward's part, Kamaru Usman was really winning that fight being dominating the entire 3 rounds even if he lost the last round Usman still wins this but that feint hook kick is what I want to call it, was really on timing and the strength could really hurt and gets out cold Leon Edwards, for me it was luck he surely conditioned Kamaru Usman with that left hook for him to get caught but I think it was a last-ditch effort for Leon Edwards in winning this and for his surprise it works

Who knows if Leon Edward hid his deadly kick at the right time without the opponent's suspicion by manipulating the movement of his left hook punch, Leon Edward ability deserves thumbs up even though most people say the luck factor but in fact his hard kick has stopped the fight and changed everything, even Usman dominance points for The previous 3 rounds will be wasted, so that's how the fight is because there will be a change in conditions before all rounds end. So how the continuation of the fight of the two since both score draws, will there be a third fight for next year?

[kro55]

I'm going to get back to my predictions this weekend, finally. Anyway, early leans are Gane, as many of you know I'm not a massive fan of him, but as much as I love bam bam, and the shoey's after the fights, I just don't see him catching Gane. The thing is about Tai his success comes from fighters that are willing to brawl, a bit like the Lewis fight. However, Gane isn't going to stand in front of him, and instead will look to tough Tai, and then get out of there.

So, my favourite of the weekend would be Gane, and by the looks of the odds 1.18 at my bookie, they agree. I'm not saying there isn't a chance, and I'll definitely be cheering on Tai, but I think it's probably the most logical bet of the weekend.

There is no doubt that Tai Tuivasa is a good fighter, but to be honest, if I look at his body, I think he is going to move slower than a fighter should be able to move, which is somewhat of a concern. So based on that I am also going to say that Gane might have the edge.

However, if someone tells me that Tai Tuivasa doesn't stand a chance of winning, I will not be able to accept this opinion. At some point, I think this will come down to a very close fight, and Gane will do everything to take this fight as far as he can. His goal would be to make his opponent as tired as possible.

[Welsh]

I agree somewhat, except for the close fight comment. This will either be a knockout for Tai or Gane will run away with the decision, and potentially get the finish himself. I can't see this being a out, and out war for the full five rounds. Tai hasn't really demonstrated his fitness all that much, so there's questions to be asked there, while we know Gane has a somewhat decent gas tank, except for against Ngannou.

The odds are awful on the Gane line though, so probably isn't worth taking the risk of putting him on your accumulator.

[notblox1]

The odds are awful on the Gane line though, so probably isn't worth taking the risk of putting him on your accumulator.

I am almost sure main event fight will end with some KO victory, Tai Tuivasa has 93% KO win record, with 13 from 14 fights won in that style.
Not saying he is going to win this time, but I think betting on fight not going to distance is better and safer bet.
Gane has a huge reach advantage so I think he can finish opponent in first few rounds.
Co-main event should the very interesting to watch and my bet is on Marvin Vettori to win.

[tokeweed]

^  Yup pretty much.  But it's gonna be late in the match tho.  Tuivasa hasn't fought for 5 rounds I don't think and he'll prolly gas out at the third..?  So it's prolly worth your while to drop a little something for Gane to win at R4 and R5.  Both are lined at 9.60 and 12. 

For Tuivasa, he has a puncher's chance and if I were betting on him I'd spice it up and bet Tuivasa via KO at 7.20 as there's no other chance he's winning against Gane except that imho.

[Welsh]

I forgot this is the headlining fight. I'm still not used to Tai being the main event just seems unreal how quick he's progressed, and some of the fighters he has actually beat. Almost like a fairy tale. I'd be super impressed, just like I was with the Lewis knock out if he manages to beat Gane though.

Just Gane's different. He's fast, doesn't mind just point scoring, and doesn't take a whole lot of risks. Tai was technically losing up until that elbow against Lewis if my memory serves me well. Gane isn't just going to stand there though, so it'll take a whole different part of the game for Tai to close the space, and that's something we haven't really seen from him. We know what we're getting with him, he's going to load up on his shots, and try to knock Gane out, and I hate to say it, he probably gets caught out with the superior speed, and agility of Gane, and gets knocked out himself. The more, and more I think of it that's the only outcome or a decision to Gane, but Tai hasn't even been five rounds yet, so can he really manage his energy when he pretty much swings to knock you out every other punch?