🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[danherbias07]

Now another fight that can surely be great to watch is between Robert Whittaker VS Marvin Vettori and I think Vettori can pull this one up, now this is the 1st time these two will fight so for Whittaker he will surely have a hard time with Vettori in my opinion,

Yeah, that match got my eye too. They are supposed to fight at UFC 275 but were canceled due to Robert Whittaker's injury. Well, now I think there won't be anything to stop them from finally meeting.
I think both fighters will be standing up until the end. Fight history based, most of their fights are ending with a decision.
It's hard to predict but looking at our favorite bookie Vettori is the underdog @2.85. But it's not that far which means there's a big chance he may snatch this one.

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[tokeweed]

I can't bet against Tai, and him being the underdog is always quite enticing with his recent rise to fame. The man is a star, even if his career will be somewhat short lived. The way he fights, basically makes his fights a coin toss, and I think Gane would know how to not get hit by him, since most of Tai's knockouts come from fighters just sitting in the pocket, and banging. Lewis found that out.

Gane will just look to touch him up, and then use his feet to get out of the way, and re-establish that distance. Tai will have to really work hard. I actually think that's how it's going to play out, and will probably be a rather boring fight. The value bet for me is it going the distance.

Remember tho that the match between them is a 5 rounder.  I think Gane is gonna finish Tuivasa around the third or the fourth or something.  Tuivasa is susceptible of getting finished in the past as his record shows.  I'm not sure where the books have lined the over/under but if it's 2.5 and over is at plus money, I'd say over.

Anyway, I'm not really sure why the UFC decided to make Gane and Tuivasa the main event.  Whitaker bs Vettori seems like it's a higher level match and the winner of the match could get a shot at the belt again.

[CryptoBuds]

I can't bet against Tai, and him being the underdog is always quite enticing with his recent rise to fame. The man is a star, even if his career will be somewhat short lived. The way he fights, basically makes his fights a coin toss, and I think Gane would know how to not get hit by him, since most of Tai's knockouts come from fighters just sitting in the pocket, and banging. Lewis found that out.

Gane will just look to touch him up, and then use his feet to get out of the way, and re-establish that distance. Tai will have to really work hard. I actually think that's how it's going to play out, and will probably be a rather boring fight. The value bet for me is it going the distance.

Remember tho that the match between them is a 5 rounder.  I think Gane is gonna finish Tuivasa around the third or the fourth or something.  Tuivasa is susceptible of getting finished in the past as his record shows.  I'm not sure where the books have lined the over/under but if it's 2.5 and over is at plus money, I'd say over.

Anyway, I'm not really sure why the UFC decided to make Gane and Tuivasa the main event.  Whitaker bs Vettori seems like it's a higher level match and the winner of the match could get a shot at the belt again.

@Welsh,
Gane has a professional record of 10 wins and one loss. And Tai Tuivasa has a professional record of 15 wins and three losses.
Tai Tuivasa has been finished before. So, I think Gane is obviously going to take notes from them and try to capitalize on the weakness.
But personally, I would like to say that Tai Tuivasa can create space for himself better.

@tokeweed,
Actually, I also agree with the fact that the UFC probably could make Whitaker versus Vettori the main event. It does feel like that fight is going to be more interesting.
But obviously, UFC is going to promote the main event a lot more. After all, it’s all about money .

[YuginKadoya]

Yeah, that match got my eye too. They are supposed to fight at UFC 275 but were canceled due to Robert Whittaker's injury. Well, now I think there won't be anything to stop them from finally meeting.
I think both fighters will be standing up until the end. Fight history based, most of their fights are ending with a decision.
It's hard to predict but looking at our favorite bookie Vettori is the underdog @2.85. But it's not that far which means there's a big chance he may snatch this one.

I know that Robert Whittaker is a popular dude, and Whittaker is really a great fighter no doubt about that, making his way to the top beating guys like Jared Cannonier, Darren Till, and Kelvin Gastelum pretty much many are saying that he can have a win over Vettori, well these two have a canceled bout back on the UFC 275 However, Whittaker withdrew for undisclosed reasons, and he never really disclose what really happens, and now at the UFC Fight Night 209 it will have a continued event but I really wish it will not get canceled now,

Remember tho that the match between them is a 5 rounder.  I think Gane is gonna finish Tuivasa around the third or the fourth or something.  Tuivasa is susceptible of getting finished in the past as his record shows.  I'm not sure where the books have lined the over/under but if it's 2.5 and over is at plus money, I'd say over.

Anyway, I'm not really sure why the UFC decided to make Gane and Tuivasa the main event.  Whitaker bs Vettori seems like it's a higher level match and the winner of the match could get a shot at the belt again.

It is still too early and the odds could surely still change the fight will be next week, but yes Ciryl Gane could finish the fight on that rounds but he can also get this fight on a safer side and win via decision as well, but he can be aggressive aswell just like he did with Derrick Lewis, I just hope that Ciryl Gane could win this one, so he can take on Francis Ngannou again for a rematch, that will be an epic fight for sure,

[Welsh]

Remember tho that the match between them is a 5 rounder.  I think Gane is gonna finish Tuivasa around the third or the fourth or something.  Tuivasa is susceptible of getting finished in the past as his record shows.  I'm not sure where the books have lined the over/under but if it's 2.5 and over is at plus money, I'd say over.

Anyway, I'm not really sure why the UFC decided to make Gane and Tuivasa the main event.  Whitaker bs Vettori seems like it's a higher level match and the winner of the match could get a shot at the belt again.

Yeah, it's probably not the most probable outcome, but it will give a decent return I would expect. Actually, just looking at it; 2.75 for the fight to go the distance, which is rather low, I was expecting a little more given the history of these two, especially since Tai doesn't really defend all that well. 3.25 for a Gane decision looks somewhat enticing though.

The only thing over 2.5 on my bookie is over 4.5. Under 3.5 at 1.72 though which isn't terrible if you're thinking he could get knocked out here.

[cabron]

A Gane vs Ngannou is sure a big event again, its however disappointing if none is a risk taker in a battle to do something crazy enough to entertain audience. They better promise the fight not to end in a Decision.

Many fighters do not recover from the type of knockout that Leon Rocky Edwards has given to Kamaru Usman according to former lightweight champion Khabib. We cannot be quite certain if he is correct with his analysis, however, Khabib has also made a similar prediction on El Cucuy after he was beaten by Justin Gaethje and he was very much correct.

Khabib Nurmagomedov has said he is unsure how Kamaru Usman will react to his knockout defeat by Leon Edwards, admitting: “A lot of people don’t recover.”

“I’m aware that the trilogy is already in the works,” Khabib added. “I believe [Usman] can beat Leon Edwards, but after such a knockout, a lot of people don’t recover. It will be interesting to see, but I would love to see the trilogy.”

Source https://news.yahoo.com/lot-people-don-t-recover-145032420.html

It must be difficult to recover from such loss. Its shocking to see yourself dominating the division for a longtime and fall instantly. Usman was winning their fight and then suddenly drop. If the resounding headkick keeps replaying in his mind,  he may not recover.  

First cut being the deepest does not apply to his loss though. Its not his first time, he'll get over it.

[Welsh]

A Gane vs Ngannou is sure a big event again, its however disappointing if none is a risk taker in a battle to do something crazy enough to entertain audience. They better promise the fight not to end in a Decision.

Despite his past results, I see Gane as a rather boring fighter despite his mobility. Unfortunately for us Ngannou can't really connect with Gane all that much due to that movement, and the fact Ngannou is much slower than Gane. So, we're sort of in limbo where the one fighter is going for a knock out, but is a little slow, and then the other fighter is more than happy just point fighting for a decision.

I'll be routing for Ngannou, at least he looks to make fights entertaining, and he showed heart in their last fight to take the route he wasn't really all that prepared to take, but did it anyway, and it actually was the difference between winning, and losing. Without Ngannou doing any of that, the fight was rather forgettable.

[cabron]

A Gane vs Ngannou is sure a big event again, its however disappointing if none is a risk taker in a battle to do something crazy enough to entertain audience. They better promise the fight not to end in a Decision.

Despite his past results, I see Gane as a rather boring fighter despite his mobility. Unfortunately for us Ngannou can't really connect with Gane all that much due to that movement, and the fact Ngannou is much slower than Gane. So, we're sort of in limbo where the one fighter is going for a knock out, but is a little slow, and then the other fighter is more than happy just point fighting for a decision.

I'll be routing for Ngannou, at least he looks to make fights entertaining, and he showed heart in their last fight to take the route he wasn't really all that prepared to take, but did it anyway, and it actually was the difference between winning, and losing. Without Ngannou doing any of that, the fight was rather forgettable.

Gane moves fast like a flyweight, you don't see anyone like that on his division even Ngannou will be weary doing the kind of bouncing in and out just 1 round. He likes to be in the safer position where he can attack and get out instantly while also prepared to move away whenever there is an attempt of takedowns.

This is also his best way attributes that will make him win against Tuivasa, Tai wants to get closer, he wants to throw elbows and knees but with Gane, Tai will likely not hit.

[danherbias07]

It must be difficult to recover from such loss. Its shocking to see yourself dominating the division for a longtime and fall instantly. Usman was winning their fight and then suddenly drop. If the resounding headkick keeps replaying in his mind,  he may not recover.  

First cut being the deepest does not apply to his loss though. Its not his first time, he'll get over it.

He will come back, that's for sure and he will be hungry again for revenge. He can watch the whole fight and he will know the reason why he should come back. Usman was winning that match, he may have just stopped being careful and won it with the decision. Maybe what he wanted was an unforgettable moment of victory. He could've just wrestled him again but he didn't.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/8/26/23321447/din-thomas-defends-analysis-before-leon-edwards-shocking-ko-memorable-moment-at-ufc-278
I am also intrigued at why this guy is being attacked.

“If Usman was standing six inches to the left and dipped his head, that kick wouldn’t have hit with the same impact. Or if his hand just happened to catch it a part of it, we’d be saying, ‘How great is Usman? He beat up Leon Edwards for four rounds after having a round like that.’ That’s the conversation we’d be having today. But Leon Edwards throws a perfect kick, knocks out Usman, and now we’re having a conversation on why I shouldn’t have a job with the UFC.”

His commentary and analysis were on point, they were all right. I am one of those about to give up, I didn't even see the kick happen, I have to rewind just so I could catch the moment because I was looking at other things thinking the fight is over.

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Gane moves fast like a flyweight, you don't see anyone like that on his division even Ngannou will be weary doing the kind of bouncing in and out just 1 round. He likes to be in the safer position where he can attack and get out instantly while also prepared to move away whenever there is an attempt of takedowns.

This is also his best way attributes that will make him win against Tuivasa, Tai wants to get closer, he wants to throw elbows and knees but with Gane, Tai will likely not hit.

Tai have a good kick boxing skills, but he lack fight on the ground skills, while Gane is well rounded and he need to force Tai to fight on the ground. Gane should concern about Tai's fake kick where he only raise his leg for mid-low and the swing it higher to hit Gane. If Tai can do this, we might see Tai would win the fight since heavyweight fighters are have higher power than the lower weight.

[YuginKadoya]

Yeah, it's probably not the most probable outcome, but it will give a decent return I would expect. Actually, just looking at it; 2.75 for the fight to go the distance, which is rather low, I was expecting a little more given the history of these two, especially since Tai doesn't really defend all that well. 3.25 for a Gane decision looks somewhat enticing though.

The only thing over 2.5 on my bookie is over 4.5. Under 3.5 at 1.72 though which isn't terrible if you're thinking he could get knocked out here.

For me, I think that it may go the distance and it is very enticing to bet for a decision win, but as you have said Tai Tuivasa doesn't have a great defense, mostly he is not really defending at all, so this could be a KO/TKO aswell for Ciryl Gane and just like what he did with Derrick Lewis the same can went against Tai Tuivasa, what I really want is  Ciryl Gane winning this whatever he wants and a rematch against Francis Ngannou, is an appropriated for Gane to do,

A Gane vs Ngannou is sure a big event again, its however disappointing if none is a risk taker in a battle to do something crazy enough to entertain audience. They better promise the fight not to end in a Decision.

Last time Francis Ngannou is injured and having a hard time with it so he depends on takedowns and how he can slow down Ciryl Gane, while Ciryl Gane is surprised about his new fight patterns of Ngannou, for this 2nd fight or rematch with both fighter healthy I think both will surely be ready with the other and this time it could be a KO/TKO decision for Ngannou if Francis Ngannou landed a hit on Gane, while for Gane I am not seeing his knocking Ngannou for me it will be a decision win for him,

It must be difficult to recover from such loss. Its shocking to see yourself dominating the division for a longtime and fall instantly. Usman was winning their fight and then suddenly drop. If the resounding headkick keeps replaying in his mind,  he may not recover.  

First cut being the deepest does not apply to his loss though. Its not his first time, he'll get over it.

It will surely Embed to his memory the loss that occurred from Leon Edwards he is dominating the fight in rounds 2, 3, and 4, and in round 5 that one only kick was the one that take him down will surely let him not sleep at night and always be thinking what he has done wrong that is why he has called Dana White that he will surely kill Leon Edwards on their rematch, he is surely Frustrated to the highest level against Edwards, watching the fight I truly believe an outcome that Kamaru Usman winning the fight is expected by many that is watching even the announcers and Joe Rogan was really surprised when they see Kamaru Usman fell on the canvas out cold,

[tokeweed]

Remember tho that the match between them is a 5 rounder.  I think Gane is gonna finish Tuivasa around the third or the fourth or something.  Tuivasa is susceptible of getting finished in the past as his record shows.  I'm not sure where the books have lined the over/under but if it's 2.5 and over is at plus money, I'd say over.

Anyway, I'm not really sure why the UFC decided to make Gane and Tuivasa the main event.  Whitaker bs Vettori seems like it's a higher level match and the winner of the match could get a shot at the belt again.

Yeah, it's probably not the most probable outcome, but it will give a decent return I would expect. Actually, just looking at it; 2.75 for the fight to go the distance, which is rather low, I was expecting a little more given the history of these two, especially since Tai doesn't really defend all that well. 3.25 for a Gane decision looks somewhat enticing though.

The only thing over 2.5 on my bookie is over 4.5. Under 3.5 at 1.72 though which isn't terrible if you're thinking he could get knocked out here.

From a betting perspective I'd avoid betting on the main event..   Even the props.  There's just no value.  And there's plenty of spots out there.  Nathaniel Wood as the underdog being one.  Wood via decision at 3.85 is worth more than Gane via decision.  I mean Gane via dec looks good if the match is three rounds imho.

And Gane as a parlay piece would be at the top of my lottery ticket but do I really want to use him with low value after what just happened with Usman at 278...?  :/

[danherbias07]

How true?

McGregor posted an image of himself leaning back with the bottom half of his body cut off, with the caption: " If you’re getting it, get it top floor of the triple deck." A deleted video also appeared on his story and was captured by fans which appeared to briefly show his fiancee Devlin's head before panning to the sensational sea view from the top deck of his boat.

Fans were quick to spot the posts and added their theories in the comments section, with one fan writing: " Did Conor McGregor really just post himself getting head on IG story?" One fan agreed: "He also posted a picture with no pants, with a caption suggesting it. It's pretty clear what he was doing."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/conor-mcgregor-video-ufc-news-27850955
Won't be sharing the image since there might be kids wandering around the forum. 
They said there's a clip, but I don't think it was shown fully of whatever he is doing or the one under him. The caption though will give anyone an idea of whatever is happening.
Well, if I do have a yacht, a lovely girlfriend, floating in the sea without anyone around, I might do the same. 

[TheNineClub]

Right on the money. This is a prop up fight for Chimaev and hed have to do something really stupid to shit the bed on this one. And the UFC really wants to get rid of some of the old guard like Diaz because there 's really not much they can do with them. They are not competitive anymore (save for few outliers) and imho, they aren't even fan favorites anymore, people have moved on.

Dare I say it, but people have moved on from Diaz. UFC has a bit of a different culture about it now, just look at the Ultimate fighter, and how that has evolved over time. The whole vibe is different, you go back to watch season one or the earlier seasons, and you can see how rough around the edges it is.

This does nothing for me though for Chimaev. If he wins, it's as expected. If he does a flying knee in the first 10 seconds, and knocks Diaz out, I'm still not going to think any more of him. He's expected to absolutely dominate that fight, and the risk is if he doesn't it looks even worse.

I would like to think so as well, that the whole vibe of the sport has moved on, but from time to time something bursts taht bubble and we are back to the 'JUST BLEED' era. But in general, it's moving away from that.

As for Chimaev, hell, I'd say for anyone in the top 10 of that division (and I am being somewhat generous), a win over Diaz is not gonna do much over all, not to mention someone that's just waiting for a title fight.

[YuginKadoya]

From a betting perspective I'd avoid betting on the main event..   Even the props.  There's just no value.  And there's plenty of spots out there.  Nathaniel Wood as the underdog being one.  Wood via decision at 3.85 is worth more than Gane via decision.  I mean Gane via dec looks good if the match is three rounds imho.

And Gane as a parlay piece would be at the top of my lottery ticket but do I really want to use him with low value after what just happened with Usman at 278...?  :/

Well, when Ciryl Gane is always fighting it is surely natural the hype is on him and that the odds were for him, so pretty much I will be staying away from betting Ciryl Gane is still my pick but it is still a tempting bet for Tai Tuivasa because he can still deliver a win via 1 hit punch OK on Gane but I am not counting on it, I can still see the fight is going on Ciryl Gane's way,

I would like to think so as well, that the whole vibe of the sport has moved on, but from time to time something bursts taht bubble and we are back to the 'JUST BLEED' era. But in general, it's moving away from that.

As for Chimaev, hell, I'd say for anyone in the top 10 of that division (and I am being somewhat generous), a win over Diaz is not gonna do much over all, not to mention someone that's just waiting for a title fight.

All are expecting Nate Diaz to lose against Khamzat Chimaev, but what if Nate Diaz can pull the unthinkable, on the Khamzat Chimaev VS Gilbert Burns fight we all know that Chimaev will be having a hard time against Burns, but what if we are all wrong about Nate Diaz, but this is just a what if, because I still think that Chimaev will be beating the crap out of Diaz, but there are many Nate Diaz fans and they are for Nate Diaz even if he loses against Chimaev, well I am saying this because I don't really see those Nate Diaz fans posting in the forum pretty much all I can see was on favor with Khamzat Chimaev,

But you are right Nate Diaz pretty much will not do much on Khamzat's Career, but upon that unexpected defeat of Kamaru Usman after this fight I surely think a title match is a proper next fight for Khamzat Chimaev,

[TopTort777]

But you are right Nate Diaz pretty much will not do much on Khamzat's Career, but upon that unexpected defeat of Kamaru Usman after this fight I surely think a title match is a proper next fight for Khamzat Chimaev,

Ha-ha, unexpected defeat. There were so many recent fights, where a huge underdog won, that I start to think that Nate could lend some decent punches into Chimaev face. Like in a fight Burns vs Chimaev. A lot of people thought that untouchable Chimaev would win in first or second round, but in reality he took a good beating by Burns. 

[tokeweed]

From a betting perspective I'd avoid betting on the main event..   Even the props.  There's just no value.  And there's plenty of spots out there.  Nathaniel Wood as the underdog being one.  Wood via decision at 3.85 is worth more than Gane via decision.  I mean Gane via dec looks good if the match is three rounds imho.

And Gane as a parlay piece would be at the top of my lottery ticket but do I really want to use him with low value after what just happened with Usman at 278...?  :/

Well, when Ciryl Gane is always fighting it is surely natural the hype is on him and that the odds were for him, so pretty much I will be staying away from betting Ciryl Gane is still my pick but it is still a tempting bet for Tai Tuivasa because he can still deliver a win via 1 hit punch OK on Gane but I am not counting on it, I can still see the fight is going on Ciryl Gane's way,

Gane is just way better in all aspects of the game if compared with Tuivasa.  But I'm not saying Tuivasa can't win.  He can, esp with Gane having the tendency to dart in with his shots at times.  It opens opportunities for Tuivasa to get in the clinch and do those elbows like he did to Lewis.  But yeah...  Pick is still Gane and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes Tuivasa.

Here's the Multi Master.

UFC Fight Night 209 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411464.0

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Gane is just way better in all aspects of the game if compared with Tuivasa.  But I'm not saying Tuivasa can't win.  He can, esp with Gane having the tendency to dart in with his shots at times.  It opens opportunities for Tuivasa to get in the clinch and do those elbows like he did to Lewis.  But yeah...  Pick is still Gane and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes Tuivasa.

Gane defeat has ruined his unbeaten career in previous fights so I'm not sure Gane is better than Tuivasa, based on the review in the last fight then Tuivasa will be very dominant for next week fight, I believe Tuivasa career will get 6 wins in a row after defeating Gane. But I hope Gane can fight again with Francis because he tops the list for heavyweight championship challengers.

[cabron]

Gane is just way better in all aspects of the game if compared with Tuivasa.  But I'm not saying Tuivasa can't win.  He can, esp with Gane having the tendency to dart in with his shots at times.  It opens opportunities for Tuivasa to get in the clinch and do those elbows like he did to Lewis.  But yeah...  Pick is still Gane and I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes Tuivasa.

Gane defeat has ruined his unbeaten career in previous fights so I'm not sure Gane is better than Tuivasa, based on the review in the last fight then Tuivasa will be very dominant for next week's fight, I believe Tuivasa's career will get 6 wins in a row after defeating Gane. But I hope Gane can fight again with Francis because he tops the list for heavyweight championship challengers.

Gane will likely be fighting Francis after this. But it be more tense to see Blaydes against Francis. If Dana wants to end Francis career like the Diaz path, I think Blaydes will be a match to watch.

He is rooting for Gane though. Tuivasa has a change ofc. The man is tough, you can count how many punches Lewis hit his head but he fought back crazily.

[inthelongrun]

But you are right Nate Diaz pretty much will not do much on Khamzat's Career, but upon that unexpected defeat of Kamaru Usman after this fight I surely think a title match is a proper next fight for Khamzat Chimaev,

Ha-ha, unexpected defeat. There were so many recent fights, where a huge underdog won, that I start to think that Nate could lend some decent punches into Chimaev face. Like in a fight Burns vs Chimaev. A lot of people thought that untouchable Chimaev would win in first or second round, but in reality he took a good beating by Burns. 

Burns was ranked 2 or 3 at the time though while Nate is not even listed in the top 10 and is also inactive already for a year. Nate may be able to land some of his strikes but knowing Chimaev's big heart, the guy will not be stopped easily.

Leon Edwards may rematch Kamaru next but I want to see Kamaru fight a lesser opponent as a tune-up. Let Edwards face Colby or Chimaev and then Usman next. I'm bored with the constant immediate rematches UFC has been doing. But Chimaev should be able to get his title shot next year.