⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[cryptofrka]

Normally changing tactics during the season is not a bad thing, it shows that a manager is ready to switch things up and find what is better against a certain team and win that way, it is actually shows quality in a manager. However when you change something and lose, that is when it means you are not doing it very well, in fact you are doing it wrong.

His idol Bielsa does something similar, he doesn't change his formation all that often (which he still does sometimes) but he changes tactics even if the formation is same, because he is known to study the opponent religiously and then make a new system depending on who they play, that way he moved to premier league and then finish the league above what others believed they could, all thanks to him getting ready for each game. Pep wants to do the same thing but he is not as good at changing as Bielsa so the results are usually lackluster.

Well, it kinda depends. If you are City and you are dominating games, you want others to adapt to your initial gameplan (the one that suits you best). If you are a weaker team, I agree that changing tactics is a great strategy. Also, if you are a good team and are having a losing streak, changing tactics and rotating players might be a good option.

The thing is that City was dominating during both periods and he did not change a player or 2. He basically switched formations and changed the whole gameplay idea.

Bottom line - changing is good. Changing too much suddenly - well, at least in Guardiola's case, proving not to be.

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[Iranus]

Normally changing tactics during the season is not a bad thing, it shows that a manager is ready to switch things up and find what is better against a certain team and win that way, it is actually shows quality in a manager. However when you change something and lose, that is when it means you are not doing it very well, in fact you are doing it wrong.

His idol Bielsa does something similar, he doesn't change his formation all that often (which he still does sometimes) but he changes tactics even if the formation is same, because he is known to study the opponent religiously and then make a new system depending on who they play, that way he moved to premier league and then finish the league above what others believed they could, all thanks to him getting ready for each game. Pep wants to do the same thing but he is not as good at changing as Bielsa so the results are usually lackluster.

Well, it kinda depends. If you are City and you are dominating games, you want others to adapt to your initial gameplan (the one that suits you best). If you are a weaker team, I agree that changing tactics is a great strategy. Also, if you are a good team and are having a losing streak, changing tactics and rotating players might be a good option.

The thing is that City was dominating during both periods and he did not change a player or 2. He basically switched formations and changed the whole gameplay idea.

Bottom line - changing is good. Changing too much suddenly - well, at least in Guardiola's case, proving not to be.

Manchester City's squad is good. And the players were active throughout the season. The players were in form, so despite the guardiola changing the formation repeatedly, they performed well enough. But if Manchester City had been an average quality team, Guardiola might not have gotten so good results by changing the format this time around.

[Maidak]

Normally changing tactics during the season is not a bad thing, it shows that a manager is ready to switch things up and find what is better against a certain team and win that way, it is actually shows quality in a manager. However when you change something and lose, that is when it means you are not doing it very well, in fact you are doing it wrong.

His idol Bielsa does something similar, he doesn't change his formation all that often (which he still does sometimes) but he changes tactics even if the formation is same, because he is known to study the opponent religiously and then make a new system depending on who they play, that way he moved to premier league and then finish the league above what others believed they could, all thanks to him getting ready for each game. Pep wants to do the same thing but he is not as good at changing as Bielsa so the results are usually lackluster.

Well, it kinda depends. If you are City and you are dominating games, you want others to adapt to your initial gameplan (the one that suits you best). If you are a weaker team, I agree that changing tactics is a great strategy. Also, if you are a good team and are having a losing streak, changing tactics and rotating players might be a good option.

The thing is that City was dominating during both periods and he did not change a player or 2. He basically switched formations and changed the whole gameplay idea.

Bottom line - changing is good. Changing too much suddenly - well, at least in Guardiola's case, proving not to be.

Manchester City's squad is good. And the players were active throughout the season. The players were in form, so despite the guardiola changing the formation repeatedly, they performed well enough. But if Manchester City had been an average quality team, Guardiola might not have gotten so good results by changing the format this time around.

This is true. If the players are in form then the responsibility of the coach is greatly reduced. If the coach only considers the strategy of the opponent's game and arranges the formation of his own team, the expected result is obtained. We have seen the situation of Liverpool. Even after winning the title the previous season, there was a team that was completely devastated this season. Because their players were not in form.

[acquafredda]

To save Ceferin's chair (and career) here is what UEFA has managed to do once again.
The change of course has arrived with an official communication: "After the opening of disciplinary proceedings against Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid for a potential violation of UEFA's legal framework in relation to the so-called Super League project, UEFA's independent appeal body has decided to suspend the proceedings until further notice".
From the USA comes a sensational backstory regarding UEFA's failed ruling against Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona, clubs still fully involved in the Super league. As reported by the journalist of the "Times", Tariq Panja, Ceferin and the leaders of the organization would have risked being arrested at the behest of the Spanish authorities if sanctions were imposed on the 3 "dissident" clubs. It was this fear that pushed UEFA to suspend all proceedings.

[kassex]

To save Ceferin's chair (and career) here is what UEFA has managed to do once again.
The change of course has arrived with an official communication: "After the opening of disciplinary proceedings against Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid for a potential violation of UEFA's legal framework in relation to the so-called Super League project, UEFA's independent appeal body has decided to suspend the proceedings until further notice".
From the USA comes a sensational backstory regarding UEFA's failed ruling against Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona, clubs still fully involved in the Super league. As reported by the journalist of the "Times", Tariq Panja, Ceferin and the leaders of the organization would have risked being arrested at the behest of the Spanish authorities if sanctions were imposed on the 3 "dissident" clubs. It was this fear that pushed UEFA to suspend all proceedings.

Perez and Agnelli would never have gone to confrontation with UEFA if they knew they would lose in the legal field. After all, these two people are quite experienced people in such cases. And UEFA could hardly have won cases in the courts against these teams. So I think The story of the Super League is just beginning, and perhaps in the future we will see an even greater confrontation between Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Juventus on the one hand and UEFA on the other.

[joker_josue]

Perez and Agnelli would never have gone to confrontation with UEFA if they knew they would lose in the legal field. After all, these two people are quite experienced people in such cases. And UEFA could hardly have won cases in the courts against these teams. So I think The story of the Super League is just beginning, and perhaps in the future we will see an even greater confrontation between Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Juventus on the one hand and UEFA on the other.

These clubs and all the others that were initially talked about. They just publicly announced that they were out, but technically they're still in there.

I continued to think that sooner or later we're going to have a "super league". I doubt it will be in the mold that had been presented, but it will be different. The national championships are increasingly unbalanced in general, with a tendency to worsen.

[muratsink]

Perez and Agnelli would never have gone to confrontation with UEFA if they knew they would lose in the legal field. After all, these two people are quite experienced people in such cases. And UEFA could hardly have won cases in the courts against these teams. So I think The story of the Super League is just beginning, and perhaps in the future we will see an even greater confrontation between Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid and Juventus on the one hand and UEFA on the other.

These clubs and all the others that were initially talked about. They just publicly announced that they were out, but technically they're still in there.

I continued to think that sooner or later we're going to have a "super league". I doubt it will be in the mold that had been presented, but it will be different. The national championships are increasingly unbalanced in general, with a tendency to worsen.

Just an issues only and now both Perez and UEFA president nothing happen and not any punishment for team who joined UEFA super league, I see UEFA super league want to give more money for club joined and they can get higher advertising than UEFA champion league, when club get pandemic crisis is very good how team can get more money than UEFA champion league without transparent about money received by UEFA.

[buwaytress]

Totally forgot that qualifying rounds start TONIGHT with the Prelim rounds, and I've already got a first bet to kick off the new season;) Will update OP shortly.

70th min now and the away clubs are ahead by a slim goal. I've got Inter d'Escaldes to win  at 84/10 so I'm happy so far.

And now, back to EURO.

[Woodie]

England enjoying a great deal of possession and Jack Grealish turned provider linked up well with Raheem Sterling to get the opening goal which put them in the lead. We need to see more of this partnership, hope the coach is taking notes and plays the dual more.

On the contrary, I really feel bad for Czech Republic because any winner from the other match would leave them out unless it stays as it is....but the best they can do is fight for all 3 points or at the least get a draw.

[snipie]

England enjoying a great deal of possession and Jack Grealish turned provider linked up well with Raheem Sterling to get the opening goal which put them in the lead. We need to see more of this partnership, hope the coach is taking notes and plays the dual more.

On the contrary, I really feel bad for Czech Republic because any winner from the other match would leave them out unless it stays as it is....but the best they can do is fight for all 3 points or at the least get a draw.

That moment when you confuse EURO thread with Champions League one due to the presence of a ball ⚽

Totally forgot that qualifying rounds start TONIGHT with the Prelim rounds, and I've already got a first bet to kick off the new season;) Will update OP shortly.

70th min now and the away clubs are ahead by a slim goal. I've got Inter d'Escaldes to win  at 84/10 so I'm happy so far.

And now, back to EURO.

With EURO + Copa America matches, almost everyone is forgetting about other games

[coinlocket$]

As told you is not over yet for the superglue on the contrary.
The society representing the European SuperLeague is doing a motion against UEFA for removing the deal they did by the 9 cowards teams.

The 12 teams are still in the ESL and no one left yet.

According to Vox Populi the big 3 Sisters are waiting for the green light from Bruxelles and according to with previous cases, they will win.

It should happen in 8-10 months and they can start with the league.

If they will win the Superleague will probably start from 2022-2023 according to Vox populi.

[buwaytress]

As told you is not over yet for the superglue on the contrary.

If they will win the Superleague will probably start from 2022-2023 according to Vox populi.

Damn, but yeah, naive to think they would leave things and let it be. Just would be really surprised if at least some of the English clubs like my own (Liverpool) don't take heed of what the fans do not want. Owners already apologised and admitted they made a mistake. If they were to change their mind and rejoin ESL it would be impossible to repair the relationship. And I know money can still be made from empty stadiums, Covid proved that for the big boys. But Anfield will no longer be a fortress.

[joker_josue]

As told you is not over yet for the superglue on the contrary.

If they will win the Superleague will probably start from 2022-2023 according to Vox populi.

Damn, but yeah, naive to think they would leave things and let it be. Just would be really surprised if at least some of the English clubs like my own (Liverpool) don't take heed of what the fans do not want. Owners already apologised and admitted they made a mistake. If they were to change their mind and rejoin ESL it would be impossible to repair the relationship. And I know money can still be made from empty stadiums, Covid proved that for the big boys. But Anfield will no longer be a fortress.

If the team plays well, puts on a good show and wins, the fans quickly forget about this issue.

I continued to think that there will soon be a super league, not as it was just introduced, but a version 2.0.

[Daniel91]

UEFA has just made a historic decision:
''Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions''

It took UEFA half a century to change this decision.
What do you think, will this change the way clubs will play in European competitions in the future?
Do you think this is a good decision by UEFA?

Source: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/026a-1298aeb73a7a-5b64cb68d920-1000--abolition-of-the-away-goals-rule-in-all-uefa-club-competitions/

[joker_josue]

UEFA has just made a historic decision:
''Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions''

It took UEFA half a century to change this decision.
What do you think, will this change the way clubs will play in European competitions in the future?
Do you think this is a good decision by UEFA?

I agree with the idea. Currently, the home factor is less and less relevant, because the conditions of the fields are similar in all stages of the UEFA competitions.
The important factor becomes the victory and not the goals.
This can make games more interesting and competitive.

[LittleBitFunny]

UEFA has just made a historic decision:
''Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions''

It took UEFA half a century to change this decision.
What do you think, will this change the way clubs will play in European competitions in the future?
Do you think this is a good decision by UEFA?

Source: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/026a-1298aeb73a7a-5b64cb68d920-1000--abolition-of-the-away-goals-rule-in-all-uefa-club-competitions/

This is a very timely decision. These rules needed to be changed earlier. Changes to these rules will make matches more competitive. Penalty kicks will be given if both teams have the same number of goals even after playing in extra time. As a result, as a general spectator, the match will be more exciting for us.

[snipie]

UEFA has just made a historic decision:
''Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions''

It took UEFA half a century to change this decision.
What do you think, will this change the way clubs will play in European competitions in the future?
Do you think this is a good decision by UEFA?

Source: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/026a-1298aeb73a7a-5b64cb68d920-1000--abolition-of-the-away-goals-rule-in-all-uefa-club-competitions/

This is a very timely decision. These rules needed to be changed earlier. Changes to these rules will make matches more competitive. Penalty kicks will be given if both teams have the same number of goals even after playing in extra time. As a result, as a general spectator, the match will be more exciting for us.

Yeah I read that decision few minutes ago and I fully support it. I honestly don't appreciate much the away advantage. I prefer seeing the best team passing whether winning away or not!

[DIA7]

UEFA has just made a historic decision:
''Abolition of the away goals rule in all UEFA club competitions''

It took UEFA half a century to change this decision.
What do you think, will this change the way clubs will play in European competitions in the future?
Do you think this is a good decision by UEFA?

Source: https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/mediaservices/mediareleases/news/026a-1298aeb73a7a-5b64cb68d920-1000--abolition-of-the-away-goals-rule-in-all-uefa-club-competitions/

This is a very timely decision. These rules needed to be changed earlier. Changes to these rules will make matches more competitive. Penalty kicks will be given if both teams have the same number of goals even after playing in extra time. As a result, as a general spectator, the match will be more exciting for us.

Some say that the penalty shootout will be the dominant phenomenon in deciding the matches, and this will weaken the competition and reduce its suspense and excitement. But i think its going to get games more exciting as since 09/10 season the average goals per game has remained fairly consistent across European competitions, with an overall average so this move could make teams looking to score more goals.

[LTU_btc]

Indeed, removing away goal rule is very big news. I'm not going to argue whether it was right decision or no, I think we have to see how it will affect games in upcoming season. But can anyone tell me any other sport where goals or points scored on away pitch is more valuable than scored at home? Because now anything doesn't comes to my head.
Obviously, this change of rules means that much more games will come to extra time and penalties. Well, maybe it's not bad thing because extra time or penalty shootouts is quite rare thing in Champions or Europa league.

[Woodie]

Well let's see,, this was a double sided sword...that away goal was unfair in the first place and also an advantage to the visiting team if they got things right in the first leg.

Now teams will be made to work for their qualifications without holding back and not been handed a golden ticket based on the away goal rule and this is commendable UEFA!!
I also understand this wasn't reached at by a unanimous decision but it had to be done. Hope var doesn't take the fun out of the game now with the removal of the away goal 🙄