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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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September 14, 2021, 09:10:30 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2021, 09:20:39 PM by BITCOIN4X
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That's right, I agree. Messi is gone and Barcelona plays the first time in the Champions League without him, Griezmann and Pjanic are gone and the new transfers have not surprised me. What is Barcelona without Messi? That's exactly what we see today and it's not good. The players have to replace Messi and it's impossible. I also expect 2 more goals from Bayern.
And in the end my guess and your expectations are right. Barcelona lost 0-3 at home for the first game in the group. I think Koeman really has to take responsibility for Barcelona's defeat and lack of performance in the Champions League this time around. I know they don't have enough good players to play because of injuries, but some players who should have started earlier shouldn't have been in Koeman's plans today. Barcelona is quite ideal with a 4-3-3 formation and Koeman's experiment with 3-5-2 today really failed miserably in my opinion.

Munchen party at home Barca. Barca really weak, they were not able to make a goal.
I only watched for 45 minute in the first half, and I have to say Barcelona were really bad today. These statistics can explain it all. 0 shoots on target in 90 minute, that's really funny for a team like Barcelona.


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September 14, 2021, 09:12:38 PM
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Haven't seen the game between Barca and Bayern.

Was Barca so bad or was Bayern too good for them?
I mean Barca is in a hard time with the COVID crisis but they are always Barca and not a mediocre team.

Do they deserved the result or it was randomly generated by bad luck in the turn of the events?

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September 14, 2021, 09:15:01 PM
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As for the Sevilla - Salzburg match, despite the fact that Sevilla was able to recoup, Salzburg also had a good chance of winning. The penalty extravaganza also delighted me.
Salzburg missed two penalties. The match they should have won. Yet I played the bull Salzburg well enough. Sevilla is not a weak team. The performance of Salzburg against them is commendable.

Realisation of a penalty is the same skill as any other, so when one team hits three penalties and scores one, and the other scores one from one, I think the first team is weaker.



Barcelona - Bayern 0-3
The score of the match looks too high. I did not watch the match, but judging by the statistics (shots on target 0-7) Bavaria completely outplayed Barcelona.

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September 14, 2021, 09:17:33 PM
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Haven't seen the game between Barca and Bayern.

Was Barca so bad or was Bayern too good for them?
I mean Barca is in a hard time with the COVID crisis but they are always Barca and not a mediocre team.

Do they deserved the result or it was randomly generated by bad luck in the turn of the events?

It was terrible game from Barca and more than deserved defeat, I wasn't expecting anything different to begin with, even when Barca where rampant Bayern have always been a thorn in the flesh, let alone when the team is in its most vulnerable state for over 15 years.

There wasn't even a shot on goal from Barcelona, I guess that'd highlight how terrible the performance was.

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September 14, 2021, 09:43:54 PM
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Champions League football can be brutal at times, it seems Bayern Munich has figured out how to beat Barcelona because this is becoming a habit or hobby for the..

The current Barcelona is different without Messi so dont expect them to win against Munich. Even with Mesi on the team, I doubt that they are going to even score against Munich

MU is biggest joke today. Even with red card, they had to win, but Young Boys simply dominated game. And Ronaldo replaced by Lingaard was real game-changer Cheesy.

I gotta agree with this eventhough its my team, Young Boys wasnt good but Manchester United was pretty bad in this game and thats it. There were only two shots on goal for the entire 90 minutes and that was pretty pathetic coming from a team like Manchester United. Ronaldo must be so pissed off with this result lol.

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Bayern Munich didn't surprise anyone by defeating Barcelona with a decent score like 3-0. Barcelona couldn't do anything even in their stadium. The fans should be really disappointed and I guess that many fans lost their interest in their team because of not being able to sign Messi back. In this match, they didn't have even one shot on goal which was terrible for them. Bayern Munich got a comfortable win and Lewandowski scored 2 goals also.

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September 14, 2021, 09:57:05 PM
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Sad for those who thought Manchester United would win the title this season.
Is that a joke? I left them leading with 1 goal in the first half + a red card and my eyes are hurting right now seeing ManU defeat against a team from Switzerland. What's going on! ManU journey won't stop here for sure but such a defeat is nonsense Lips sealed

Sevilla got a draw + a red card for their scorer, very promising..
Villarreal draw vs Atalanta, I find it logic tho
Bayern knocking Barca as usual but with 3 goals this time. Wonder know the feeling of Koeman..
Red cards in 4/8 games Roll Eyes
Tomorrow Inter 🔥 Real Madrid (not sure which one will win), Liverpool - Milan and City - Leipzig.

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September 14, 2021, 09:58:26 PM
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The current Barcelona is different without Messi so dont expect them to win against Munich. Even with Mesi on the team, I doubt that they are going to even score against Munich

If I remember correctly, with Messi as part of Barcelona, they lost to Bayern with a total score of 8-2. So at the moment there are no fundamental differences.



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September 14, 2021, 10:01:10 PM
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I only watched for 45 minute in the first half, and I have to say Barcelona were really bad today. These statistics can explain it all. 0 shoots on target in 90 minute, that's really funny for a team like Barcelona.

Very bad maybe, yes I think they have to go through this phase to regenerate players. Koeman has a tough task. Looks like he'll be in trouble in the longer term because of their poor financial situation.

Match list for tomorrow:

1. Besiktas vs Dortmund
2. Sheriff vs Shakhtar Donetsk
3. Inter Milan vs Real Madrid
4. Altletico vs Porto
5. Club Brugge vs PSG
6. Liverpool vs Milan

Two big parties, it is difficult to give predictions between Inter vs Madrid and Liverpol vs Milan. But I will guess a draw for Inter and Madrid then Liverpool will win.

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September 14, 2021, 10:05:23 PM
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Today's Match Results:

Sevilla vs RB Salzbrug 1-1
Young Boys vs Man United 2-1
Villareal-Atalanta 2-2
Lille vs Wolfsbrug 0-0
Chelsea vs Zenit 1-0
Malmo vs Juve 0-3
Barcelona vs Munchen 0-3
Dynamo Kyiv vs Benfica 0-0

It seems like many bettors lost the Young Boys vs Man United match, this is really surprising because I also support Man United.
Munchen party at home Barca. Barca really weak, they were not able to make a goal.

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I only watched the match until the end of the first half and preferred to see the match between Barcelona and Munich which is a duel of two giant European teams right now, especially in the first half Ronaldo has managed to score 1 goal, so I am very sure that Manchester United will big win , but after I saw the livescore, I didn't think that Manchester united today could lose against the Young Boys, even though they had been leading 0-1.
Thanks to Lingard really cost me money due to a fatal mistake made by him at the last minute. Cry

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September 14, 2021, 10:08:07 PM
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Sad for those who thought Manchester United would win the title this season.
Is that a joke? I left them leading with 1 goal in the first half + a red card and my eyes are hurting right now seeing ManU defeat against a team from Switzerland. What's going on! ManU journey won't stop here for sure but such a defeat is nonsense Lips sealed
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Yes. Definitely a shocker on the Champions League opening night.
Let's be honest, it was a bad night for United. After Aaron Wan-Bissaka was sent off in the first half, the game completely turned around. United had just two shots on target in the second-half. Young Boys deserved to win.
United can only hope that losing their opener won't bring them bad luck for the rest of the competition.

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September 14, 2021, 10:09:49 PM
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Champions League football can be brutal at times, it seems Bayern Munich has figured out how to beat Barcelona because this is becoming a habit or hobby for the...current scores Barcelona 0-2 Bayern Munich with less than 20 minutes to go.
Barca had far lost its glory days, when the aged guys that aided Messi to help the team going are either retired or sold off. I'm talking about the likes of Xavi, Iniesta Nd lately Suarez, Neymar and finally Messi left. There is almost nothing left in the team as it is now. So, with Bayern Munich being on fire especially when it comes to the UCL, it's never a surprise to have them beat Barcelona.

On Manchester United and there disappointment today, I was so hoping them not to loose or even draw today's game. Not with all the welcome back CR7 and the high hopes for the scoreline of there last EPL game. Of course CR7 scored a goal but, this is another show that, one man doesn't make a team.

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September 14, 2021, 10:13:04 PM
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The young Boys team is not young, they are experienced enough. They are proving their strength. Although Manchester United was in full control in the first half, the Young Boys showed remarkable performance in the second half. Manchester players are not able to keep the ball in their possession. If there was an experienced striker in the Young Boys team, they would have crushed Manchester United's defense today.

Sad for those who thought Manchester United would win the title this season. In the first match, Manchester United is performing terribly against Young Boys. The match is now a 1-1 draw. Ronaldo scored the first goal in the 13th minute of the first half. I haven't seen any good attack from Manchester United players since the first goal.
If you look at the beginning of the match, I think you can indeed get points here, but disaster came when Wan Bisaka was sent off by the referee and it was one of the things that broke the rhythm of the game from MU.
even though they are far from the level of the youngboys game in terms of player quality but here the count is 10 v 11 so it is very difficult even if they are experienced and the player level is far.
Lord Lingard came down in the 71st minute to score and restore United to the lead.
He did not disappoint Solskjaer and made the winning goal for his opponent in the last minute in a wonderful way 🤷🏻 regardless of the goal shot and this substitution, but with your honor worse than Solskjaer and his substitutions?
Taking out a midfielder and play Varane with a back 5 while also a man down.
How he supposed to get a win by doing that, losing against the weakest team in the groupe is not acceptable.
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September 14, 2021, 10:22:45 PM
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The current Barcelona is different without Messi so dont expect them to win against Munich. Even with Mesi on the team, I doubt that they are going to even score against Munich
If I remember correctly, with Messi as part of Barcelona, they lost to Bayern with a total score of 8-2. So at the moment there are no fundamental differences.



Somebody kill me please  Grin Dat tweet.
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I can't stop laughing. (No hate. No offense.)
I saw a lot of funny stuff there about Barcelona fans relieve after getting ONLY 3 goals vs Bayern Cheesy
There is also this savage post between Ole and CR7 after ManU defeat https://twitter.com/TrollFootball/status/1437870926138249217
And many mocking the relation between 2-1 defeat and CR7. Of course this is just for fun, myself I am still under shock after this defeat!

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September 14, 2021, 10:23:38 PM
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Barcelona - Bayern Munich match was the match of the day I think. But I was disappointed to see Barcelona not being able to do anything against Bayern Munich here. Bayern Munich were so comfortable against them that they didn't even have a difficulty in winning this match. It was a clear victory by 3-0. It was nice to see Lewandowski continuing to score. He got 2 goals here too.
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Champions League football can be brutal at times, it seems Bayern Munich has figured out how to beat Barcelona because this is becoming a habit or hobby for the...current scores Barcelona 0-2 Bayern Munich with less than 20 minutes to go.
Barca had far lost its glory days, when the aged guys that aided Messi to help the team going are either retired or sold off. I'm talking about the likes of Xavi, Iniesta Nd lately Suarez, Neymar and finally Messi left. There is almost nothing left in the team as it is now. So, with Bayern Munich being on fire especially when it comes to the UCL, it's never a surprise to have them beat Barcelona.
On Manchester United and there disappointment today, I was so hoping them not to loose or even draw today's game. Not with all the welcome back CR7 and the high hopes for the scoreline of there last EPL game. Of course CR7 scored a goal but, this is another show that, one man doesn't make a team.
Although, of course, the defeat at the home stadium with the score 0-3 gives little reason for optimism, but still let's not make far-reaching conclusions just for the first match of the group tournament. Let's not forget that Barcelona is just learning how to do without Messi this season and how to build a team game now, and it was difficult to expect that this would happen painlessly. Moreover, the signs of a crisis in the game were already present with Messi, while the team got rid of Griezmann, quite a valuable striker. Unlike Barcelona, Bayern did not carry out such a painful restructuring of the squad, Lewandowski remained in the team and scored 2 goals, and the most important change is the change of the head coach, who does not seem to be radically changing the style of play of the German club.
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September 15, 2021, 12:43:24 AM
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Barcelona - Bayern Munich match was the match of the day I think. But I was disappointed to see Barcelona not being able to do anything against Bayern Munich here. Bayern Munich were so comfortable against them that they didn't even have a difficulty in winning this match. It was a clear victory by 3-0. It was nice to see Lewandowski continuing to score. He got 2 goals here too.
It was a very nice and good game to watch between Bayern Munich and Barcelona , first half Barcelona got some chances !
But it was showen that they cant do anything about the well playing Bayern players , there was some misstakes by passing the ball from both teams.
The 3 scored goals was ok even it was possible that Munich score 2 more maybe but they deserved the win.

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September 15, 2021, 01:22:20 AM
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Barcelona - Bayern Munich match was the match of the day I think. But I was disappointed to see Barcelona not being able to do anything against Bayern Munich here. Bayern Munich were so comfortable against them that they didn't even have a difficulty in winning this match. It was a clear victory by 3-0. It was nice to see Lewandowski continuing to score. He got 2 goals here too.
It was a very nice and good game to watch between Bayern Munich and Barcelona , first half Barcelona got some chances !
But it was showen that they cant do anything about the well playing Bayern players , there was some misstakes by passing the ball from both teams.
The 3 scored goals was ok even it was possible that Munich score 2 more maybe but they deserved the win.
What chance got by Barcelona, have you check and see the statistics on that match, looks again with how many shots made by two team, Bayern Munich success made seven shots and finish it with three goal but see again how come Barcelona have zero shot of goal and very team I think never have attempt to make goal. Still to early because only group stage and Barcelona have chance for next match to get three points and always large chance to pass on knock out group, just Barcelona have most attractive and make many shot on goal again never passing ball only.

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September 15, 2021, 01:51:31 AM
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These statistics can explain it all. 0 shoots on target in 90 minute, that's really funny for a team like Barcelona.
Indeed. Too bad for Barcelona, they even couldn't have a single shot on target although they were playing on their home. I am surprised that Barcelona only made 5 shots during the match and can't win the ball possession. It is not the playing style of a real Barcelona team. They should take more initiative to control the game by winning ball possession and force the opponent players to stay in their area. In this way, the opponents can't have many chances to create shots, and difficult to build attacking because have a small chance to win the ball. This is the original Barcelona play of style, they never let the opponents win the ball possession.

Was Barca so bad or was Bayern too good for them?
I assume Barca is so bad. While Bayern can take the advantage of Barca's situation. Especially for Lewa and Muller, they know very well how to deal with Barcelona defenders. They have done it very well, both in the matches of previous UCL and in the current match.


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I realized Manchester United were only playing with 10 player, but United had taken the lead 1-0 and United should have made the most of their defence. If United don't change their strategy, United should still be able to make goals again, considering their opponent is a dark horse team in their group and should be, this is not a problem for the United squad. It's a surprise, even though it's only 10 players I don't think United will lose and it's a problem that Ole has to deal with immediately.

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