Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[CryptoBuds]

Very proud of you Bongs   but now please rip off the band aid and get out as soon as possible so that you guys can have 2 extra days to enjoy the nice Caribbean weather.
This is last batting pair for the Bangladesh and still trailing 59 runs, let's hope they are not heading towards inning defeat.  

I think Bangladesh will lose this match by an innings margin. Defeat early, and enjoy a two-day vacation. This is good for Bangladeshi players. Bangladeshi players have basically gone on tour, I don't see in them the mentality of playing Tests. Bangladesh has scored 115 runs, trailing by 46 runs. If Shakib is out at the crease, the rest of the batsmen will return to the dressing room very soon.

[BALIK]

Very proud of you Bongs   but now please rip off the band aid and get out as soon as possible so that you guys can have 2 extra days to enjoy the nice Caribbean weather.
This is last batting pair for the Bangladesh and still trailing 59 runs, let's hope they are not heading towards inning defeat.  

I think Bangladesh will lose this match by an innings margin. Defeat early, and enjoy a two-day vacation. This is good for Bangladeshi players. Bangladeshi players have basically gone on tour, I don't see in them the mentality of playing Tests. Bangladesh has scored 115 runs, trailing by 46 runs. If Shakib is out at the crease, the rest of the batsmen will return to the dressing room very soon.

Shakib and Nurul are batting well enough. They have formed a 44-run partnership. And this is probably the biggest partnership in Bangladesh. Shakib scored 33 off 49 balls and Nurul scored 12 off 48 balls. If this partnership lasts long, then maybe Bangladesh will be able to provide a target of 60/70 runs. However, I do not see any possibility of Bangladesh winning this match. There is no other experienced batsman in the crease except Shakib.

[jostorres]

Very proud of you Bongs   but now please rip off the band aid and get out as soon as possible so that you guys can have 2 extra days to enjoy the nice Caribbean weather.

This is last batting pair for the Bangladesh and still trailing 59 runs, let's hope they are not heading towards inning defeat.  

Things are going worst for these Bongs as they are having nothing in this format just try to avoid and work on ODI and T-20 because day by day they are digging into the big hole. If a team is not capable to do 250 runs in two innings then surely they need to commit suicide because it's the best option for them and Caribbean weather and sea are best for them. Right now Shakib and Nurul are at the crease with still need 49 runs for avoiding inning defeat and Roach is on fire hopefully he will break them and win this match and series very easily.

They are not capable of playing test matches because they are playing with aggression and here in this format we need some good patience which can help most of the batsmen out on crap balls which is a big concern for team management the big challenge for Shakib can they bring back West Indies for batting or no let's watch what's happening in next few overs.

[Minor Miner]

Bangladesh's collection is now 209. Bangladesh scored more than 100 runs in the sixth wicket partnership, which is really surprising. Shakib Al Hasan scored 53 and Nurul Hasan 48 runs. Bangladesh is now ahead by 47runs. If Bangladesh somehow manages to set a target of 200 then there is a very good chance of Bangladesh winning this match. Let's see if Captain Shakib can score a century today.

[dezoel]

Shakib and Nurul are batting well enough. They have formed a 44-run partnership. And this is probably the biggest partnership in Bangladesh. Shakib scored 33 off 49 balls and Nurul scored 12 off 48 balls. If this partnership lasts long, then maybe Bangladesh will be able to provide a target of 60/70 runs. However, I do not see any possibility of Bangladesh winning this match. There is no other experienced batsman in the crease except Shakib.

I am really surprised with the way both are batting because they are doing things against odds now Bangladesh is leading by 32 runs with the courtesy of the partnership between these two which is already 85 with a very healthy run-rate these both are settled and can do some more good for their team because we have just 9 overs left when the new ball will be available which can do some change in this game otherwise very good fightback by these Bangla tigers legendary Bangla batsman Shakib is using his all experience and giving good tips to a newcomer for having some good time at the crease.

Any healthy lead can create problems for the home team in the fourth inning because it's never been easy for any team to bat in the fourth inning even if it's just the third day of play. For me now if both batsmen can stay at the crease for nearly 20 to 25 overs then surely they can change the momentum of this game which could be interesting even still in favour of the home team.

[Vaskiy]

The scoring from Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are very important for Bangladesh. With this the team can try to increase the chance of losing the match and move it towards a draw. For 109 runs the sixth wicket have fallen, and according to that now the Bangladesh innings would've come to an end. Luckily Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are on the crease and doing the best of his ability.

[Mahdirakib]

The scoring from Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are very important for Bangladesh. With this the team can try to increase the chance of losing the match and move it towards a draw. For 109 runs the sixth wicket have fallen, and according to that now the Bangladesh innings would've come to an end. Luckily Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are on the crease and doing the best of his ability.

BCB should kick out Mominul Haque from the test squad. They removed him from the captaincy as he wasn't doing well. But still he is playing badly without having the responsibility of leading the team. Actually he is out of form. On the other hand, the new captain Shakib Al Hasan played well in both innings of this test match. The partnership between Shakib and Nurul has broken just now. Bangladesh got a lead of 70 runs until now. I think they are going to loss the reaming 3 wickets quickly. West Indies will easily win this match.

[eaLiTy]

The scoring from Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are very important for Bangladesh. With this the team can try to increase the chance of losing the match and move it towards a draw. For 109 runs the sixth wicket have fallen, and according to that now the Bangladesh innings would've come to an end. Luckily Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are on the crease and doing the best of his ability.

Shakib Al Hasan is back in the pavilion but Nurul Hasan is still in the crease and they only lead by 71 runs and with only 3 wickets left and it is a matter of time how long they can delay West Indies from scoring the winning runs. Toss was an important factor in the match and West Indies won the toss and put Bangladesh to bat first and If Bangladesh played well in their first innings it would have been a close game.

[jostorres]

The scoring from Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are very important for Bangladesh. With this the team can try to increase the chance of losing the match and move it towards a draw. For 109 runs the sixth wicket have fallen, and according to that now the Bangladesh innings would've come to an end. Luckily Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are on the crease and doing the best of his ability.

Shakib Al Hasan is back in the pavilion but Nurul Hasan is still in the crease and they only lead by 71 runs and with only 3 wickets left and it is a matter of time how long they can delay West Indies from scoring the winning runs. Toss was an important factor in the match and West Indies won the toss and put Bangladesh to bat first and If Bangladesh played well in their first innings it would have been a close game.

The new ball works for Roach and West Indies and he removes both set batsmen now the lead is just 76 runs with Ebdad and Mustfi on the crease for visitors right now it is all about West Indies because this is a very small lead which is not going to hurt them in any way if remaining batsmen able to touch the figure of 120 to 130 then surely it's going to be interesting but it needs some good patience from these batsmen which is inevitable because mostly they are going for the aggressive approach which is not going to help them here. Roach is a very consistent bowler for the home team as he mostly gives them breakthroughs when they needed at a crucial time.

Edit: This time Joseph takes wicket now 245/9

[minairia3]

The scoring from Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are very important for Bangladesh. With this the team can try to increase the chance of losing the match and move it towards a draw. For 109 runs the sixth wicket have fallen, and according to that now the Bangladesh innings would've come to an end. Luckily Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are on the crease and doing the best of his ability.

Shakib Al Hasan is back in the pavilion but Nurul Hasan is still in the crease and they only lead by 71 runs and with only 3 wickets left and it is a matter of time how long they can delay West Indies from scoring the winning runs. Toss was an important factor in the match and West Indies won the toss and put Bangladesh to bat first and If Bangladesh played well in their first innings it would have been a close game.

The new ball works for Roach and West Indies and he removes both set batsmen now the lead is just 76 runs with Ebdad and Mustfi on the crease for visitors right now it is all about West Indies because this is a very small lead which is not going to hurt them in any way if remaining batsmen able to touch the figure of 120 to 130 then surely it's going to be interesting but it needs some good patience from these batsmen which is inevitable because mostly they are going for the aggressive approach which is not going to help them here. Roach is a very consistent bowler for the home team as he mostly gives them breakthroughs when they needed at a crucial time.

Edit: This time Joseph takes wicket now 245/9

It is the end of day 3 and West Indies only need 35 more runs to win. Bangladesh is not going to win this match in any situation. West Indies obviously do not need two days for scoring 35 runs which also takes away the possibility of a draw. Khaled Ahmed is bowling well but I think in the end it will be in win. After watching this kind of performance I really don't think that Bangladesh should have the test status anymore. And this is not a sudden failure. actually, this is happening on a regular basis in Bangladesh in the Test arena.

[Smack That Ace]

The scoring from Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are very important for Bangladesh. With this the team can try to increase the chance of losing the match and move it towards a draw. For 109 runs the sixth wicket have fallen, and according to that now the Bangladesh innings would've come to an end. Luckily Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan are on the crease and doing the best of his ability.

BCB should kick out Mominul Haque from the test squad. They removed him from the captaincy as he wasn't doing well. But still he is playing badly without having the responsibility of leading the team. Actually he is out of form. On the other hand, the new captain Shakib Al Hasan played well in both innings of this test match. The partnership between Shakib and Nurul has broken just now. Bangladesh got a lead of 70 runs until now. I think they are going to loss the reaming 3 wickets quickly. West Indies will easily win this match.

This is nothing new, Bangladesh has been performing like this in test cricket for a long time now and I don't think only by kicking Mominul Haque this is going to be solved. Only two players in the last innings of Bangladesh played well. Shakib Al Hasan and Nurul Hasan played well and Joy also played really well under pressure I will say. Other than that I don't think anyone played well at all. It feels like if one or two players do not perform Bangladesh is going to lose and it is inevitable.


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[Sithara007]

A lot of the users were surprised with the poor performance from Bangladesh, but it was somewhat expected for me. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, the performance from the Bongs have been like this only. Once in a while, they will score an upset victory against one of the stronger sides and that will enable them to continue with the current status. IMO, other emerging teams such as Afghanistan also deserves the chances that are being given to Bangladesh. Why Afghanistan is not a part of the World Test Championship, despite the fact that they are also a full member?

[JSRAW]

^^ I won't single out Bongs here as every team shit their bed when they tour overseas, losing overseas is not a problem but the way team surrender it irritates the fans.

India always get bundled up badly in NZ, things are getting better in Eng and SA due to competitive series. Aus perform badly against SA, sometimes even at home. Eng always lose in Aus, Ind royally. So it's nothing new. I won't compare Ban with Afg as i believe Afghanis are nowhere near them, might change if they start playing 6-7 test every year.

Being full member doesn't guarantee playing in WTC. It's true for Ireland and Zimbabwe as well, it's no brainer that it's connected to sustainable model of test cricket. When NZ is not making any profit with the test match then how could we expect same from smaller boards. There is a reason that every team play 2-3-4-5 type of bilateral series, you would notice only PIG-3 play 5 test match series.

There are some proposals for tier-2 type of WTC for Afg, Ire, Zim + associate nations but for this ICC need to subsidise new set of series, which is hard for them.

I've said couple of times that in a longer run Relegation system could potentially save the Test format but everyone likes Status quo, so here we are.

[Swordsoffreedom]

A lot of the users were surprised with the poor performance from Bangladesh, but it was somewhat expected for me. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, the performance from the Bongs have been like this only. Once in a while, they will score an upset victory against one of the stronger sides and that will enable them to continue with the current status. IMO, other emerging teams such as Afghanistan also deserves the chances that are being given to Bangladesh. Why Afghanistan is not a part of the World Test Championship, despite the fact that they are also a full member?

I was not at all surprised to see the batting performance of Bangladesh. This was to be expected. Bangladesh has always been weak in Test format. A few days ago, the Bangladesh team had a great victory in the first Test match against New Zealand. But in the next match, they lost by an innings margin against New Zealand. Bangladeshi players have very little patience. They are not suitable for the test format. If Bangladesh wants to improve the Test format, they will need a long-term plan. And the BCB only needs to produce some players to perform in Test matches.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

Why Afghanistan is not a part of the World Test Championship, despite the fact that they are also a full member?

If Bangladesh wants to improve the Test format, they will need a long-term plan. And the BCB only needs to produce some players to perform in Test matches.

Yes that's really strange that Afghanistan is not part of Test forma where country like Bangladesh is playing for almost two decades with few handful victories. Right now WIndies need 35 more runs to win and this game is over for Bangladesh. To me Bangladesh is just an associate level team that can do some upset only. If they cant learn cricket in 2 decades then they wont learn it in next decade or so.

[pakhitheboss]

A lot of the users were surprised with the poor performance from Bangladesh, but it was somewhat expected for me. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, the performance from the Bongs have been like this only. Once in a while, they will score an upset victory against one of the stronger sides and that will enable them to continue with the current status. IMO, other emerging teams such as Afghanistan also deserves the chances that are being given to Bangladesh. Why Afghanistan is not a part of the World Test Championship, despite the fact that they are also a full member?

One the main reason why Afghanistan might not get recognised as a test playing nation is due to the present political situation in that country. Bangladesh performance has been degrading in all format not just Test cricket. I am not sure what cannot the Bangladesh board find talents who can play good cricket.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

A lot of the users were surprised with the poor performance from Bangladesh, but it was somewhat expected for me. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, the performance from the Bongs have been like this only. Once in a while, they will score an upset victory against one of the stronger sides and that will enable them to continue with the current status. IMO, other emerging teams such as Afghanistan also deserves the chances that are being given to Bangladesh. Why Afghanistan is not a part of the World Test Championship, despite the fact that they are also a full member?

One the main reason why Afghanistan might not get recognised as a test playing nation is due to the present political situation in that country. Bangladesh performance has been degrading in all format not just Test cricket. I am not sure what cannot the Bangladesh board find talents who can play good cricket.

Zimbabwe also lost there test status because of there political situation, so we have one less test playing country by now. I think ICC not revoking Bangladesh test status because already there are handful test playing countries in the world. If Afghanistan given that much time like Bangladesh enjoyed in test then result will be far much better.

[Sithara007]

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There are some proposals for tier-2 type of WTC for Afg, Ire, Zim + associate nations but for this ICC need to subsidise new set of series, which is hard for them.

I've said couple of times that in a longer run Relegation system could potentially save the Test format but everyone likes Status quo, so here we are.

Not surprised here. Compared to the previous cycle, the ICC funding for associate nations got reduced by more than two-thirds for the current cycle (2015-23). From $65.25 million per year, the funding went down to $20 million per year, and for every test nation it increased by significant amounts. For the next cycle (2023-2031) I am expecting further reductions, as the pig-4 is firmly under control of the ICC after the departure of Shashank Manohar. Within the next 10 years, I expect most of the teams with native players (Netherlands, Scotland, Nepal, Namibia.etc) to face the same fate as that of Zimbabwe and Kenya. And once that happens, there will be no scope for a tier-2 WTC championship.  

[dezoel]

A lot of the users were surprised with the poor performance from Bangladesh, but it was somewhat expected for me. Ever since they got the test status in 1999, the performance from the Bongs have been like this only. Once in a while, they will score an upset victory against one of the stronger sides and that will enable them to continue with the current status. IMO, other emerging teams such as Afghanistan also deserves the chances that are being given to Bangladesh. Why Afghanistan is not a part of the World Test Championship, despite the fact that they are also a full member?

One the main reason why Afghanistan might not get recognised as a test playing nation is due to the present political situation in that country. Bangladesh performance has been degrading in all format not just Test cricket. I am not sure what cannot the Bangladesh board find talents who can play good cricket.

There is no doubt it's a big setback for Afghanistan they can't play at home and most chance it's not possible in the next eight to ten years because no country will travel to this country where no system and law is working anytime anything can happen as we have a few years back in neighboring Pakistan and currently some near to this happening here in Sri Lanka but policies are completely different for all countries.

Even Afghanistan is a very good side and if they can have 5 or 6 test matches annually then surely they could be better especially if they can give better results than Zimbabwe and Bangladesh but it's all in hands of ICC B-4 which have their hypocrisy which is killing this game and if they are not going to change this then surely we are going to have a big drop in cricket playing nations especially in test matches as countries like New Zealand and South Africa have no profit from this format.

[jaberwock]

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There are some proposals for tier-2 type of WTC for Afg, Ire, Zim + associate nations but for this ICC need to subsidise new set of series, which is hard for them.

I've said couple of times that in a longer run Relegation system could potentially save the Test format but everyone likes Status quo, so here we are.

Not surprised here. Compared to the previous cycle, the ICC funding for associate nations got reduced by more than two-thirds for the current cycle (2015-23). From $65.25 million per year, the funding went down to $20 million per year, and for every test nation it increased by significant amounts. For the next cycle (2023-2031) I am expecting further reductions, as the pig-4 is firmly under control of the ICC after the departure of Shashank Manohar. Within the next 10 years, I expect most of the teams with native players (Netherlands, Scotland, Nepal, Namibia.etc) to face the same fate as that of Zimbabwe and Kenya. And once that happens, there will be no scope for a tier-2 WTC championship.  

With this all now I am feeling ICC B-4 has their target and they are trying to reduce test playing nations as they have some good profit from IPL instead of this WTC so they are trying to avoid all suggestions and better ideas for their sack which is not good enough for cricket.

First of all, they need to do bring some solid policy for all countries like about native players and then they need to bring another thing to settle test nations into two groups with first have Eight countries and second have Six which will help them for improving quality and give some better results and financial assistant to all countries.

With this, they will be able to have a strong case for Olympics as well because without any solid policy they will never be in a good position for promoting this game around the globe.